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Andy L
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posted July 31, 2006 07:22 PM
While were at these "polls", heres one that outta stir the pot. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Do you call continuous on stand or quit calling intermittently on stand?
I had called softly for a few minutes, turned it off for a few, called a little louder, turned it off, ect... throughout the stand. First time I went west, I was looked at as if I had lost my mind. So, I hunted with several guys that called continuous and we got results. I tried it here and got results. Then, I hunted with a fella that really blasts it for a really short time, turns it off, then repeats, and he got results. I dont know that it matters alot. Maybe a few more responses with breaks?
The thought process, so I was told, by the fellas that called continuous was to keep the coyote looking for the sound and not using his nose. The thought process from the fella that taught me to call and the one that went silent mentioned above was to not let the coyote pinpoint the sound and make them pay for using their noses, if they do.
What do you do?
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Leonard
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posted July 31, 2006 07:35 PM
If you watch enough responses, you will see what happens (sometimes) when you stop your sound. Your animal stops. Not always, but enough to convince me that I do not change anything, especially when I have an incoming animal in sight.
Short answer, CONTINUOUS.
Good hunting. LB
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bandit
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posted July 31, 2006 07:45 PM
Excellent question............I'll be waiting for responses!
I (not the MOST successful caller out there) call continuously when using my caller. Normally 15-20 minutes per stand.
If using mouth calls, I take breaks........ damn lungs.....
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Tim Behle
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posted July 31, 2006 07:48 PM
Continuous, same volume.
One of the first things I noticed different when I moved here from Indiana, was that in IN, if I turned down the volume while a coyote was coming in, he picked up speed. Out here, if I adjust the volume with a coyote in sight, he will either stop, or turn and run.
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posted July 31, 2006 07:56 PM
I call continuous,with whatever volumne I feel is needed for the conditions at hand. I do at times stop calling, usually when I see a hard charger,I will shut down when the coyote is maybe 50 yards from the call, shoot him,and any of his compadres, then resume calling for another five minutes,or use the injured coyote distress.
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Cal Taylor
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posted August 01, 2006 07:10 AM
I will call as little as possble. Open softly for 30 seconds or so, wait a minute or two, if no takers a little louder, if no takers maybe switch sounds, if no takers louder, if no takers louder. Then my secret at the end of the stand is a short lonesome sounding howl. If no one answers I head for the truck, but it is amazing how many times that the end howl will cause a reaction. It may just be barking back, but that will at least give an opportunity for a sneak attack, or to try a different sound. With the remote on the FoxPro I have put the sneak on many coyotes that are hung up at 500 plus. I keep them locked on the FoxPro while I crawl into range.
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Greenside
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posted August 01, 2006 08:39 AM
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when you stop your sound. Your animal stops
I use hand calls and usually do a 1 to 2 minute series with a few 10 sec or so breaks thrown in the series(that's with rabbit distress, deer bawls is a whole different ball game). After that I usually pause for a minute or two just to watch for incoming with my eyes and also with binos'.
Most of the time I really don't mind if they stop on occasion because it's common for them to stop where they can see, but then you also can see them. The sooner you get them spotted the better off you're are as far as working them. IMHO
BTW One of my biggest phobia's is that a coyote can't hear me. I'm with Cal in that I will go loud. Sometimes sooner than later.
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Steve Craig
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posted August 01, 2006 09:14 AM
Continuous. All species.
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Leonard
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posted August 01, 2006 10:47 AM
Okay, this is not a completely reasoned and thought out reply, but what I meant in the quote repeated by Dennis is .....WHEN I AM CALLING CONTINUIOUSLY, AND STOP; the animal will stop.
This is a lot different than hand calling and has nothing to do with the question since all hand calling involves intervals.
So, just brainstorming here, but maybe continuiously calling followed by a sudden cessation of sound is what provokes the braking of an incoming animal? He may not check up, (if) he has been hearing pauses the whole time?
If this isn't to clear, I'm sorry, got a lot on my mind, this morning?
When using electronics, use continuous sound, they respond much better. (personal opinion)
Goood hunting. LB
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UTcaller
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posted August 01, 2006 12:58 PM
My stand goes alot like Cal metioned.I am fairly new to the Electronic world of calling.I have a hard time just letting the caller play nonstop.But that's just me.I have just hand called and howled over the last 20 years until I bought a FX3 a while back.Short series of distress cries with pauses in between has always been better for me as far as calling goes.So I guess habits are hard to break. With the foxpro I will stop after a couple minutes then increase the volume a bit and so on,so far it has worked out pretty good.I've killed a few since I started using it.I still love the hand calls though so I don't think I will go staight FX3.And I to like to use a lone howl at the end of my stand.FWIW Good Hunting Chad
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Andy L
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posted August 01, 2006 03:23 PM
Pretty interesting. Like I said, I have been exposed to both ways and seen both work. I use both at different times. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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posted August 01, 2006 07:25 PM
i start off fast and furious for a good minute, real high pitched and screechy. i stop for a half minute or so ( to catch my breath) and then pour it on for a another minute or more. after about 5-6 minutes i get more sporadic and slow it down. near the tail end of a set i'll pick up the pace some. if i'm doing a bird sound i tend to keep it going more near constant than with other sounds.
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brad h
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posted August 01, 2006 08:00 PM
I had a hard time getting used to letting the caller do the work after using hand calls myself. It felt kind of foreign at first. It didn't take long though. Now I just turn it on and let it ride. Starting volume depends on wind and terrain but I like it on the louder side.
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Greenside
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posted August 02, 2006 10:17 AM
Cal
You didn't mention if you howl at the start of the stand before opening with the low volume. I assume you do at times?
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Then my secret at the end of the stand is a short lonesome sounding howl. If no one answers I head for the truck, but it is amazing how many times that the end howl will cause a reaction
So you don't expect or seldom get a physical response to that short lonesome howl?
Dennis
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TA17Rem
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posted August 02, 2006 11:26 AM
When i'm useing my Dennis Kirk electric caller, I start out with full volume and play it for a min. or two. I then pause for 5 min. if no response then play for two more min. About 50% of the coyotes would hang up and if i turned on caller and let it keep playing then they would continue to come in. I also noticed that if i got them comeing in with the call on full vol. they would tend to come in fast. If i turned the volume down then most of them would come in at a slower pace and stopping every 100 yds or so. And then they would continue on at same pace untill i turned caller off and took the shot.
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Andy L
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posted August 02, 2006 05:55 PM
One thing I have used multiple times is to work the volume when you see one coming and he stops. I turn it down all the way and then work it back up til you get a reaction. That works sometimes. Of course, sometimes it seems you gotta try lots of things and sometimes they just wont come anymore....
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keekee
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posted August 03, 2006 11:06 AM
I call alot! If I am running a e-caller I let the sound run all the time. If I am hand calling I take just enough of a break to get my air back, but I call hard and with alot of feeling.
Or I give a break between sound changes if needed.
If I am howling it all changes.....It depends on the area, the coyotes and vocal resonces if I get them.
I feel as though I dont want a coyote that is resonding to one of my calls to wonder off, or get side tracked by something else. I want to keep his intrest and keep him on a string to me if I can. I dont give them time to wonder off on something else or think about what they are doing. Keep them interested and thoughts on the sounds they are hearing!
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