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2dogs
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 02:23 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
I'm waiting.
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 02:30 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
Come on Tim. Don't wait for someone else! TALK!
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 02:31 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
OH! the suspence [Big Grin]
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 02:44 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
Still waiting, Tim.

whoops edited; for spelling [Big Grin]

[ February 27, 2006, 02:46 PM: Message edited by: 2dogs ]

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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 02:55 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
Surely, you've had time to type up something [Roll Eyes] .

This reminds me of the dog on the ground, scenario. Doesn't take long for the others in the pack, wanting some payback. For past transgressions.

Let me see your fangs! [Cool]

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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 02:59 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
Hmmm, now I'm curious. As to WHY! you waited so long for your vent. LOL! BTW, I'm still waiting [Wink]
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:05 PM      Profile for Cal Taylor   Email Cal Taylor         Edit/Delete Post 
Ding! Ding! Ding! There goes Tim's meter AGAIN!

A 95 grain bullet leaving the barrel at 3400 F.P.S. zeroed dead on at 400 yds will drop 32 inches at 600. So even zeroed at 440 it will still drop over 25 inches at 600yds. 25 INCHES!!!
Thats not holding on the hairline.

Oh, that info is from Sierra reloading manual, not my book. But if I ever write a book 2Dogs, you should read it.

[ February 27, 2006, 03:07 PM: Message edited by: Cal Taylor ]

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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:07 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
440yrds Cal. Get it right. Is that out of a 24" barrel?
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:11 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
Cal,

Bill Prudden's ballistic chart, says different.

BTW, answer my previous comments.

also show me a pic[one of yours] of what a TRUE coyote Den looks like. BTW, where's your backup...Tim [Confused]

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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:12 PM      Profile for Cal Taylor   Email Cal Taylor         Edit/Delete Post 
Look above, I posted the info for a 440yd zero also. Barrel length is irrelavant, velocity is, and I'm giving you about an extra 50 fps than you can actually be getting out of your rifle. Unless you can tell me you chronographed it and have a magic rifle that will produce 4 or 500 fps more than any other 243 WSSM out there. I'm pretty sure that a chronograph would be of no use to you, since a rangefinder isn't.

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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:17 PM      Profile for Cal Taylor   Email Cal Taylor         Edit/Delete Post 
A real coyote den. Note the packed down grass and worn areas. That is because coyotes were LIVING there. Not a hole in the ground that they occasionally visit.

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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:18 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
Well, that coyote was past the 1/4 mile by over halfway to the 1/2 mile fence. Now how many yrds would YOU say that was? I call that 600.

Was it 600 exactly???. Don't know. Was it 648...Don't know??. I never said I "Lazored" it. But I can see very well. Besides useing the fenclines as a reference. I guess that's "BS" in anyone's book, except your's & your buddy.

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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:20 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
So a "coyote den" is only a coyote den. When there is one "living" or "in" there...According to you.
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:22 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
Tell me more of "my BS".
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:24 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
So if a coyote, go's in/out of a "hole". That mysteriously looks like a coyote den. It's not "really" a coyote den??. LOL!
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:27 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
You'll note. [I know your checking Bill's Ballistic chart]. That the 95gr will drop roughly the same, as I've stated in my post, that occured on that coyote.
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:35 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
Cal/tim,

Share with everyone, more of my BS stories!

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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:37 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
Yup, thought that pidgeon story. Would give a few some chuckles. I guess, that's BS. Why? should anyone laugh?
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:39 PM      Profile for Cal Taylor   Email Cal Taylor         Edit/Delete Post 
2Dogs,
I was giving you too much velocity. I went to my Hodgdon reloading manual and the most you can get out of a 24" barrel is 3245 fps with a 90 grainer not a 95, so it is safe to assume that you can't get a 95 going faster that the 90. So actually that puts your drop, with your zero at alittle more than 25". This is simple info to look up.

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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:42 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
Here's what I'm seeing. You two, probably some others as well. Got a bone with me. So you both saw fit. To put the "boot" to me. No problem. But, I don't drop easy.

Funny thing, is I was out in the field after predators, long before either of you. That rubs the wrong way, now don't it.

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So what your saying is Cal. That Your Ballistic book is "exact" in all circumstance's, eh.
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:47 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
You ever shoot at a coyote that far, Cal? Whats the mystery there. A decent shooter with the right rig. Shouldn't be a big problem. Where's Tim [Confused]

Coyote Dens, SooOOOoo. EXACTLY, what should they "ALL" look like? What dimensions EXACTLY? [Confused]

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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:49 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
Tell me more of ALL of my BS.
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 03:59 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
Funny, I spoke of missing a coyote from 70' away. That I stalked up on. Neither of you said a thing wrong with that. I whack a couple way out there. Then it becomes BS. Classic!
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Icon 1 posted February 27, 2006 04:06 PM      Profile for 2dogs           Edit/Delete Post 
If you've EVER shot at a coyote past 440yrds. The farther out your coyote, the smaller they are...Crosshairs cover more of your target...DUH!

Was I EXACTLY ontop of her Back [Confused] Don't know. But, I had the horizontal crosshair on her back.

WAS I EXACTLY on her nose [Confused] Don't know. But, looked that way to me. You are beating a dead horse. With all of this perfection.

Are either of you PERFECT [Confused] Speak up.

What did she weigh EXACTLY [Confused] . Don't know EXACTLY. My estimation, was low 30's.

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