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Tim Behle
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posted June 19, 2006 01:11 PM
Don't worry about me Tom, I don't look to kill or even sting any birds of prey. ( It is possible to teach them to avoid my house, and that is always my first choice ) But I don't think the laws reguarding rapters is set up fairly. Why should it be legal for me to kill a fox, coyote, bobcat or even the neighbors dog if caught in the act, But not some damned bird?
If you stop by the house some time, I'd like to show you a dirt mound 323 yards west of the house. It might change your mind on what can fly off with a chicken. Over the years, I've caught Great Horned Owls, Red Tails and White tails red handed with a fresh killed chicken. I know that they aren't supposed to be able to lift off with a chicken, But I can't see any other way for them to get them to the top of the tree, or to the top of that dirt mound with out flying them there.
One of the more annoying side effects of raptor predation is that they generally only go after the hens. Several years ago, they really got into my chickens hard one summer. I ended up with 13 roosters and only 5-6 hens. The hens didn't like all of the attention, so they'd run off and hide from the roosters all day.
Did you know that if thirteen roosters can't find a hen, they all turn queer and spend the day running their buddies down and gang raping each other?
What you you rather see? An occasional dead hawk, or a bunch of gay roosters?
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NASA
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posted June 19, 2006 02:18 PM
Some hawks and owls are claimed to be capable of carrying their own weight. That's true, sort of. Many will fly/drag heavy prey along the ground to a spot where they feel secure enough to feed on it. Other times a smaller hawk will find the remnants of a larger raptors kill and take it up in a tree to finish it off. Someone seeing this might assume the smaller bird made the original kill, when in fact was just scavenging the leftovers.
What is the average live weight of the hens being taken?
BTW, a hawk or owl only needs to be spurred or wing slapped once to learn to leave roosters alone, lol. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) Just be glad you don't live in the northern states where they have Goshawks. These guys know how to take roosters!
[ June 19, 2006, 02:21 PM: Message edited by: NASA ]
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brad h
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posted June 19, 2006 02:19 PM
"Did you know that if thirteen roosters can't find a hen, they all turn queer and spend the day running their buddies down and gang raping each other?"
Mallards do the same thing, Tim. That's a tough one to explain to the kids when they get to feed the ducks at grandma's house and all the green heads are agressively mounting each other up.
Brad
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Rich
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posted June 19, 2006 02:27 PM
So let us pretend that I take my friend Nathan Allen Smithsonian Astrogramma (NASA for short) along with me on a coyote hunt. I carry a shotgun because the cover is pretty thick in that area. About four minutes into our third stand, I see a diamondback rattler coiled up behind my buddy, and it is about to strike. I blow off Mr. Rattlers head with a load of BB's, but a couple of flyers from that pattern of BB's strikes old NASA in the arse. Do you think he should report me to the local authorities, make me walk home, tell me thanks for saving him from the snake bite or what? Just curious.
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NASA
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posted June 19, 2006 02:33 PM
LOL, no I never had any queer roosters. Most of my roosters were fighting cocks and penned seperately. I kept 6-8 for "recreation". Any gang-banging was usually terminal.
I never had more than about 30 chickens total at any one time. Most of mine were for meat/eggs. I had New Hampshires, Plymouth Rocks, Wyandottes, and of course, Rhode Islands.
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NASA
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posted June 19, 2006 02:36 PM
Rich, how big was that diamondback?
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JoeF
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posted June 19, 2006 03:14 PM
Rich, snakes are a protected species in most jurisdictions so under the zero tolerence black and white rule interpretation you'd get to walk home.... that is if NASA didn't shoot first and ask questions later after you shot him in the can. All of that posted completely tongue in cheek.
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NASA
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posted June 19, 2006 03:23 PM
Now you see, some people would be grateful to have a rattler blown out from underneath them. But, I'd want to check him out first before anyone pulled the trigger on him. Heck, he might be a trophy class buzz-tail. Wouldn't want to mess up a fine reptile like that with a load of BB's, now would ya? ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Rich
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posted June 19, 2006 03:52 PM
He was a protected species and I had to make a choice real quick, honest I did. Would I lie to you guys about something this importent?
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Tim Behle
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posted June 19, 2006 04:01 PM
Rich,
You can hunt with me and I wouldn't turn you in. But I might buy you a beer after I drove you back to town.
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posted June 19, 2006 04:36 PM
OMG Rich! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) I would trade both of my ex-wives for a beauty like that!!
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