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Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 16, 2006, 06:13 AM:
I 1st seen this done by my Dad & his 2 Bud's. I was a young guy back then. I thought,"What the HECK! are they doing" ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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They claimed, that they could tell, what animal was inhabiting or had used that hole. Dependant upon the scent-scented or "strength" of the scent.
I thought this was very COOL! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
. As I already had previous experience of the smell of Red Fox. I started doing this on many dens, we'd come across in the field.
In the winter of 68. I shot my 1st coyote. I inhaled his scent[mostly, when no-one was looking, LOL! ].
As time went on, came upon more dens, field drive culverts with tracks, in/out. We were a huffing, LOL! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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One snowfly day, we were perched on a hill. By a field drive. We let the sighthounds out to whizz,....us as well.
I noticed Red Fox tracks, going in/out of the little culvert. I went, bent down & huffed that opening. Made my eye's watered ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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I said, Hey! "There's a Red in here!" No one believed me... [young guy/old guy syndrone ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
]. Oh, well. I'm persistant.
Well, they stuck a section of wire in there. Twisted the wire, soon they had a Red, on. He broke free, busted out the other end[the end my face was against]...Bad! idea.
The Red hit me in the face, I rolled onto my back into the ditch. The Red was in mid-flight, right above me. He hit the ground, flat-out into a wide open picked bean...Game over.
When I huff, a den. I'll inhale through my nose 1st. Then inhale through my mouth[you can pick up taste, that way]. Then inhale through, my nose or mouth & exhaust it [all] out of my nose.
End result; smell & taste.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 16, 2006, 08:00 AM:
Thanks, 2dogs. You are more dedicated than I.
I would be thinking that I have no interest in a rude (badger, maybe?) making hamburger out of my face.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on January 16, 2006, 09:49 AM:
When I was a teenager I used to go out after a rain and find the deer by smell.
I probably couldn't do that here in AZ, too many other smells become promanant after a rain.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on January 16, 2006, 11:38 AM:
Interesting thread, I obviously wasted my youth, huffing holes that did nothing but get me in trouble:)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 16, 2006, 11:55 AM:
Quit bragging, Vic.
Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on January 16, 2006, 12:17 PM:
2dogs, do you have skunks in your area?..Did you ever huff a hole with a skunk in it?
Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 16, 2006, 01:04 PM:
Hmmmm, huffing holes. Tend to get a guy in trouble, @ times LOL!.
Yup, we have skunk here, not many though. Coyotes here like to eat their bellies/genatalia . Go figure...
Many of their dens are in the [high sides] of road ditch's. Mostly, perfectly round, around 6-8" diameter. I pass on those .
I have an [active] Badger den in one of my call area's. He/she came out last wk. Made 1-rd trip, I suppose looking for food. By the size of it's foot prints, he/she's pretty stout.
I was going to get a dig-camera. I put it off[my old 35mm] started working, again . Now it's done for good.
Buying a dig camera today or tomarrow. So I can get some pics posted. When I go out again. Probably won't be able to run it, though. Electronics, way over my head.
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Talked to the farmer who has the coyote den[active the last 2-springs]. He gave me some directions on where to find it. I humped out over a mile, many[big butted hills, whew!]. Started doing a grid search[his directions, were not real accurate]...My luck.
Finally found them. 2-den's caved in from his tractor during last harvest. Both, were out in the middle of the 2 square mile section. On a very high hill. In a picked corm field.
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I've huffed some Badger den's as well. Makes me a tad tense, putting it mildly. Couldn't smell much, except. Soil & a musky stench[reminded me of Muskrat]. Perhaps they were non-active[empty], don't know.
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on January 16, 2006, 02:25 PM:
How about the next campfire we dig out some old Bongs. We could have dried burning Coyote poop in one , Red Fox in another, Kit Fox, maybe I can get my hands on some Maui Muskrat.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 16, 2006, 03:51 PM:
I think Cheech smoked Labrador?
Posted by MULE (Member # 63) on January 16, 2006, 04:07 PM:
Only asian grey wolf gets torched in my hookah.
Expensive? Oh hell yeah!
But it beats "huffin" paint
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on January 16, 2006, 04:22 PM:
I have never purposely huffed a den, but even us poor-nosed humans can locate animals by smell alone when conditions are right. I have been around a few active bear dens and you don't even need to stick your head in the hole to tell that something spent some time there. A buddy of mine arrowed a bear and we spent a couple of hours searching in very thick cover before the scent led us to it.
I've located a couple of freshly killed bull elk just by following my nose into the wind after looking in vain for the dead critter and not finding anything. Elk have a very distictive scent and with the wind right anyone could do it.
I've read where the I n d i a n scouts for Custer could smell even the smallest of warming fires used by the Sioux and Cheyenne at great distances. Way before the whitemen could pick up the smell of smoke anyway.
edited for glitch in the system
[ January 16, 2006, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: Lonny ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 16, 2006, 04:37 PM:
I'm proud of the fact that I can smell the water, a mile before I cross the Colorado River, in Blythe. Best I can do? Badgers stink, late season, male coyotes stink. Dead coyotes usually smell worse than dead badgers. Ask Higgins.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by MULE (Member # 63) on January 16, 2006, 05:22 PM:
Be careful of the golden skunks.
Don't let what happened to me happen to you
Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 16, 2006, 06:33 PM:
Mule, Too FUNNY! LOL!
Reminds me of when one of my older Bro's threatened me. Right before I nailed him. In the mouth with a handfull of mud & slimy Nightcrawlers, LOL!
It was worth the beating .
Posted by smoke em (Member # 785) on January 17, 2006, 03:52 AM:
Too bad Gen. Custer didn't have you guys for scouts.
This thread reminds me of the movie ALMOST HEROES.Chris Farley plays a scout smelling buffalo dung and and comments"the buffalo are near", when asked if he can know this simply by the smell, he says"well no ,they are standing right over there"
[ January 17, 2006, 04:05 AM: Message edited by: smoke em ]
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on January 17, 2006, 05:54 AM:
smoke em'
Ask anybody who has ever spent much time hunting elk and they will tell you that elk have a odor that is easy to pick up. Even elk beds hours old still have the distictive smell of elk. I'm sure as hell not talking about putting my nose in the wind and locating elk or any animal that is hundreds of yards away. In heavy brush the animal might be very close by but you can't see it.
If you walk into the house with dog shit on your boots I bet your wife can smell it.
And no, I can't stick my nose in a den and say, "Red Fox", "male", "two hours ago".
Posted by InjunJoe (Member # 658) on March 10, 2006, 06:45 PM:
Is this an example of Huffing?
Click here to watch Huffing
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 10, 2006, 07:27 PM:
There were witnesses.
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on March 10, 2006, 08:45 PM:
Turkeys are pretty easy to smell in the rain.....
Ok, I know that was off topic....
Posted by canine (Member # 687) on March 11, 2006, 08:56 AM:
Damn InjunJoe,
Opened that link, kids had volume up, o'lady sleepin on the couch sits straight up, thought she had me busted lookin at porn again!!
That was funny!!
Well Rich.... is it true? once you go black you wont go back??
JD
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on March 11, 2006, 11:08 AM:
LOL canine! That very thing just happened to me. The kids were watch Scooby Doo and they all jumped to come and see Mr. 'Chiggins at the computer.
"Dad, what was that? Was that Rich????"
I never got to see but the first second or two and I switched it off quickly! LOL
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 11, 2006, 11:55 AM:
should have been there...it was disgusting!
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on March 11, 2006, 12:10 PM:
My POS computor won't download it. I have a feeling it's better this way.
Posted by Jay Nistetter (Member # 140) on March 11, 2006, 03:57 PM:
You are SOOOOO right Rich.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on March 11, 2006, 05:49 PM:
We all need to take up a collection and buy Rich a new 'puter.
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on March 11, 2006, 06:34 PM:
quote:
We all need to take up a collection and buy Rich a new 'puter.
It's called Up Close and Personal.
It wouldn't play on my 'puter either, if it got Crapshoot to come out of the woodwork, it must've been good.
Krusty 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 11, 2006, 06:42 PM:
wrong, K. the other one is what he found so friggin' hilarious. But, nobody seems to know who it is?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on March 12, 2006, 08:09 PM:
Did I miss something? "The other one"??? "Crapshoot out of the woodwork."???
I never saw either!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 12, 2006, 08:23 PM:
Danny, I don't do this for everyone. Look here: http://www.huntmastersbbs.com/cgi/cgi-ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=001076;p=2
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on March 13, 2006, 01:05 PM:
Thanks Leonard. Dang, Where was I? I even read that post. Must not have been using the, "Today's Active Topics" button!
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on March 13, 2006, 08:13 PM:
I hadda go to Red's house to see 'em, both were pretty funny.
Krusty
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 13, 2006, 08:41 PM:
Crapshoot has been upset for three years because he didn't get invited to the campout. If he's going to hang out, maybe we should do the right thing and extend an invite, if we ever have another one?
Good hunting. LB ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
edit: there again, Krusty. What exactly is so damned funny about those videos? I thought they were sophomoric Frat boy stuff.
[ March 13, 2006, 08:57 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on March 13, 2006, 11:13 PM:
Leonard,
I dunno what Crapshoot's deal is, and I don't wanna.
Whatever he's got stuck in his craw has little to do with this thread. Other than I thought it was significant, that (edit) one of the videos got him to post. (*apparently you think it's significant that it was the joke on you?)
As far as that goes, I don't think he was the only one pissed about it.
But I don't have time to worry about everyone that was pissed off yesterday, life goes on, and I don't have a big enough bucket to carry that kind of BS with me through life.
"What exactly is so damned funny about those videos?"
Umm, they were sophomoric frat boy stuff.
Don't read too much into "pretty funny", I'm easily amused.
I know I usually laugh when the joke's on me.
Krusty
[ March 13, 2006, 11:16 PM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ]
Posted by crapshoot (Member # 225) on March 14, 2006, 07:17 AM:
Upset, Not hardly. You made it loud and clear when you told me "the celebs" wanted to keep the hunt a small low key event that and that commoners werent welcome. (and im not the only one you told this to) Since I dont know if those were the feeling of the "celebs" of just of yous personally, I figured why waste my time associating with people who are far to superior than I and wouldnt want to share a camp fire with me anyway. (I kinda figured we all put our pants on the same way. I guess not) Thank you for showing me that there are far better people to befriend. I told you in personal E-mail how I felt. Why call it the "Hunt Masters" when all of your members are not welcome? Why have a post asking who all is comming when All are not welcome. Why not call it what it is. "Leonard and his Clan's Invitational hunt" That way the rest of your members dont feel slighted when you tell them they arent good enough to share your space or knowledge.
Remember, you brought this up. Not me. I only posted I found a video clip funny. Why? Because it was they were sophomoric frat boy stuff and of course because it was a poke at you. Remove my ability to post if that makes you happy. Doesn't bother me. I dont have anything to offer here because you already know it all. Besides, I dont kiss ass to well and dont tend to get long with inflated egos either.
There were alot of people here that I held in high reguards. Some I still do. Many I do not. No debate needed as I am through. Good day to you sir. Oh and good hunting. LA
Posted by tonlocus (Member # 254) on March 14, 2006, 10:05 AM:
Crapshoot, you too?
[ March 14, 2006, 10:45 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 14, 2006, 10:24 AM:
Crapshoot, you got your shot, and I guess I asked for it?
As a guest in my house, you should know enough to be respectful, so (by mouthing off) it's not surprising that you expect to be banned?
I never did a damned thing to you except tell you what the verdict of the group was, as tactfully as possible. You weren't the only one, (none took it well), they all blamed me, of course.
These guys (my friends) seemed to want a quiet little group, and that's what it is, private and quiet.
I specifically did not want an event like others have, door prizes, raffles, awards and the entire population invited.
My campout is a different deal, a personal thing and I don't understand why you and a few others don't get it....and you still don't; witness those insults above. What gives you the right to horn in and then, cop an attitude when you are politely turned down?
I think I will suspend your posting priviliges because you seem to lack basic courtesy and I'm not going to tolerate abuse. (notice that I didn't delete your rant)
If you ever change your attitude, write and I'll probably reinstate ya? LB
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 14, 2006, 06:06 PM:
(late entry)
I know it's considered bad form to make a public post out of a private email. But I am asking you to make an exception this time.
The thread "Den Hole-Huffing " Was locked before I got the chance to respond.
Could one of you please allow me to post, or post this message for me?
Tim
Don't shoot the messenger. The decision to keep the campout last fall down to a small number, wasn't Leonard's decision, he was just the messenger. And I apologize to him for having to have that job, I never realized how much crap he took over it until today.
Our camp out each fall, isn't so much a "Huntmaster's Hunt" as much as it is just a gathering of old friends. Some of the guys who attend don't post on Huntmasters, but we've known each other for years. What a lot of guys probably don't know, is that there is a core group of guys who have been hanging out on the "net" together since the early Nineties. Huntmaster's is a focal point for the majority of that group.
We didn't turn anyone away in a mean or egotistical spirit. In fact, and lot of thought and debate went into the idea of opening the camp out to everyone who posts here. I can definitely see something like that in the future, but last year just wasn't the time for it. As the unofficial "Camp Bitch" I'll be damned if I want to ride herd on a bunch of public drunks, or worse yet, be responsible for making sure that they get fed.
Different guys each had their different reasons for wanting to keep it a small private affair. Some needed some quiet time away. Some had some pressing personal issues that they don't want made public.
If someone wants to organize such an open event, go for it! I'll probably show up. But I won't worry about cooking, or any of the other little details. There are two other board hunts held here in South East Arizona that attract a lot of attention. If you want a well planned out, choreographed, and commercial event, try the Predator Master's hunt up in Globe. If you want a disorganized trainwreck, then the Coyotegods board meets right here in McNeal.
But please forgive a few old friends if we choose to quietly get together once a year to swap stories around a campfire.
And Don't blame Leonard. He was just the unfortunate one who had to deliver the bad message.
Tim Behle
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