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Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on May 15, 2006, 02:49 PM:
Nearly ran over this before I saw it. It is dead center of the core aria of my home pack. About 150 yards from the den.
Never have seen this before and there are plenty of Cow skulls around.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on May 15, 2006, 04:49 PM:
Ronnie,
Did you really take a crap on that skull?? Talk about uncouth!!!
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on May 15, 2006, 05:18 PM:
No Lance. That's genuine. Besides I cant squat that low.
[ May 15, 2006, 05:19 PM: Message edited by: varmit hunter ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 15, 2006, 06:28 PM:
It amazes me sometimes. I see photos and they have this strange looking green ground cover? Out here you probably don't want to lay down on a stand because you will get stickers, thorns or cactus spines inbedded in your nether regions. Better to sit on something and not even put a bare hand on the ground under a bush, or suffer the consequences. Man, that looks "tropical" Ronnie. LB
[ May 15, 2006, 06:29 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on May 15, 2006, 07:41 PM:
I wqas thinking the same thing, what's with all of the green stuff?
We've had .011" of rain since last September, Even our little green aliens have turned brown.
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on May 16, 2006, 08:11 AM:
Leonard, You can defiantly say its tropical. We are way behind on spring rain. We finally got 7" this month.
If you step on that grass you will be covered in mosquitoes. If you lay down in it you get covered in fire ants. Don't guess any place is perfect.
I probably see fifty Cow skulls a year. Just never saw one marked.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on May 17, 2006, 07:35 AM:
Fox commonly place their scat in conspicous places such as that. Tyler found a coyote skull with fox scat dead-center on it. I have some video of it. Coyotes will do the same thing.
When I was in Wyoming with Cal Taylor we were walking along a two track and I mentioned that in Az the coyotes would have left graffitti along it. Cal showed me that the coyotes were placing theirs about a foot high in small sagebrush, elevated graffitti is more prominent.
Last year we found a lot of scat along a two track that ran along a barbwire fence.. A coyote had deposited scat on the bottom wire of the fence. Anyone want to conjecture about why a coyote would place that kind of marker in the center of core territory instead of along the periphery?
Posted by JoeF (Member # 228) on May 17, 2006, 08:35 AM:
5 or 6 years ago I moved in to an old farm house that hadn't been lived in for several years. Shortly after moving in a coyote crapped in the dog dish right outside the front door. I've got the photos to prove it - quite the welcome to the neighborhood. I also killed 16 or 18 coyotes within 100 yards of the house the first few years there, being the unneighborly sort that I am...
Interesting about the crap on the tufts of grass - I drive a couple of miles of gravel road that has sunken to the point of being anywhere between 2 and 5 feet below the surrounding terrain in most places. That road is marked very frequently in at least one place, almost always in sunken places...
After typing that and thinking a bit more I may have to eat my words, there is one corner that gets marked very often that is one of the few stretches where the road bed is higher than the surrounding field, maybe. I'll have to check it out.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 17, 2006, 10:32 AM:
I find gray fox a lot more deliberate in where they deposit scat, on top of a rock, something specific.
Coyotes, on the other hand. About the single intentional habit I have observed is on a dirt road of some type, an intersection, a high spot a low spot, but mostly in bare dirt, on a two track. Way more deliberate and much more numerous than scattered around the adjacent hither and yon. Of course, they seem to view roads as part of the natural environment, and appear to accept them as territorial boundaries?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by bigben (Member # 864) on May 19, 2006, 06:27 AM:
if ya wanna mess with a coyote knock it off once. boy they get mad. If I am scouting and see this I knock it off the rock or whatever it is on. then go in there a couple of days later or the next day if it is fresh and howl and normally get one to show itself.
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on May 19, 2006, 09:46 AM:
Howdy bigben. Thanks for the tip. I will defiantly give that a try. It is about time I piss one off, they are always doing it to me.
Posted by bigben (Member # 864) on May 19, 2006, 11:58 AM:
If you really really wanna make em mad. I have some coyote or fox scat that i keep for trapping. I took a piece of coyote scat and stuck right where they placed a I was here offering and waited a night. then next day went in and one howl wam one was there quick.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 19, 2006, 02:47 PM:
Yeah, I always carry a nice sized specimen in a condom; then, depending on the occasion....
No, not really, I made that up. LB
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on May 19, 2006, 03:25 PM:
Not much difference between doing that and freshening up a deer scrape with a little of your own brew. I'd been trying to pattern a nice buck for a week or more several years ago and with one day left, I decided WTF and took a leak right on his scrape on the way out the night before. When I got there the next day, it looked like all hell'd broken loose in there with that scrape all tore to hell. Never got that buck, but he sure didn't take a snootful and abandon his territory like a lot of writers would lead you to believe.
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on May 20, 2006, 07:41 AM:
I've trapped a few coyotes by making a pee post set with my own pee.
I think it is just instinct for most animals to investigate the smell of urine, and then cover it with their own.
Sometimes I aggravate my dogs when we go for a walk by peeing on the same bushes that they do. They then feel the need to go back and pee on them again. Drives the old dog nuts when I do that.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on May 20, 2006, 09:08 AM:
I do the same thing here in Scottsdale when I walk my dogs, Tim. Drives them nuts, and the yuppie neighbors.
Cadieux stated in his book that Texas ranchers would "hold their water" while driving their ranches until they stopped and opened a gate and would then relieve themselves on the gatepost. Coyotes passing by would mark over the ranchers scent and Gvmt. trappers took a lot of coyotes with "gatepost sets".
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on May 20, 2006, 10:38 AM:
You know that big old red dog I have Tim, he does one better. Ive had many a guy who stopped by for a visit and a brew, while heading out to the truck to depart, say our good byes,and then shuffle over by their truck to take a piss. That red dog will sneak in behind them, and while they relieve themselves.....he does the same; but on the backside of their leg....no kidding.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 20, 2006, 01:41 PM:
Vic, that's just like you, to not warn your friends!
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on May 20, 2006, 05:50 PM:
That's alright Leonard. My old black dog does the same thing.
He's pissed on a lot of men, but just one woman. My Mother-In-Law
And by the time I saw him doing it, it was too late to warn her, so I just bit my tongue and didn't mention it. Didn't see any point in her getting upset.
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