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Posted by howler (Member # 197) on December 16, 2007, 04:43 PM:
For the Electric call guys. I ahve a few questions.
1. when do you stop the coytes for a shot
2. how do you stop them
3. what do you do with the caller leave it on turn it off.
4. Do you turndown the volume when the coyote gets close or let er rip.
Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on December 16, 2007, 05:48 PM:
I try to stop the caller as soon as I know the coyote has *IT'S* location lined out... this is usually pretty soon after I lay eyes on him. Some setups differ, mainly because of topography, but I don't want him wondering around aimlessly at his own pace.
By stopping the caller early, he'll often stop at least once on his own before jamming me up. When a coyote is focused on a caller I prefer not to give up my location by barking or anything else... but when necessary I'll give him a littl "Woof" with tension on the trigger.
In the event I shut down the caller then lose the coyotes interest... I'll start it back up at the same volume level.
I'm very interested in how others answer these questions. I think maybe how they stop them will tell us a little about how they're setting up in the first place.
Posted by John (Member # 52) on December 16, 2007, 06:29 PM:
If I (we) set up and use the E-caller, we usually use a shot gun. 5 to 40 yds.
Stopping the coyote is secondary.
If using a rifle, I'll bark, yell, or howl the coyote to a stop (hopefully) between 50 to 100 yds.
I'm not too good at hitting a running target with a rifle, ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
so stopping them becomes primary.
The caller plays continuously. We just decrease the volume a bit.
John
[ December 16, 2007, 06:40 PM: Message edited by: John ]
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on December 16, 2007, 06:29 PM:
I stop them when they are just about to enter ome place that I don't want them to be. It's just that simple. As long as they show a commitment to the approach, I let them. I like chip shots. I'm comfortable with coyotes very close for long periods so I let them get as close as possible.I shoot very few at 100 + yards.
A short bark will anchor a close in coyote.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on December 16, 2007, 06:51 PM:
Excellent questions, Howler!!
The answers that you get will depend a lot on the 'When - What _ & Where's.
For my style of calling, in the areas that I hunt;
(1) When to stop the coyote; I like to set up my stands with a 'kill box' in mind. It's size will vary depending on whether I'm using a shotgun or rifle. Once the coyote's in the box, if I do my part, it's leaving with me. Just a matter of waiting for the high % kill shot.
(2) How to stop them; I simply bark with my voice while looking over the scope. Coyote stops (hopefully), eye drops to the scope, crosshairs to the chest, yank the trigger, Dirt Nap Time. All bow before the Mini-14.
(3) Caller on or off; I leave it on. If it's working.....why mess with it?
(4) Volume up or down; I leave it alone. Again, if it's working....
What say the rest of ye Pampas Knowitalls??
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on December 16, 2007, 10:17 PM:
Normally I just leave the caller running and bark when a coyote is in a good place for a shot or I shoot when they stop naturally to look over the scene. I've never got into a habit of messing with the volume when a coyote is approaching and I'm about to shoot.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 17, 2007, 07:17 AM:
Before I went to the remote control callers, I would set the caller out cross-wind from 30-50 yards and let it play til the tape ran out. That's when I learned that hungry coyotes won't stop when you bark at em. They would come in on the run, make a U turn around the caller and just keep on running. That is when I learned that a bullet is the best way to stop them. Don't wait for the buggers to stop, just shoot em. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on December 17, 2007, 10:45 AM:
Howler, the caller should be placed in a manner that it positions the coyote to your advantage. A coyote that is allowed to run in and u-turn around a caller will have a nose full of your scent and barks will not stop him. You can use sights, scents and sounds to stop and position a coyote where you want him to guarantee you a standing chip shot. Much better than blasting away at a running coyote.
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on December 17, 2007, 12:24 PM:
He said "before he had a remote caller" Rich H. I am sure that Mr. Cronk, hits pause and stops them at 100 yards and bops them w/ the .243 now.
BEFORE remote callers was the key... ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Pot stirrer!
I just let it run and run and run. I haven't had much success with an e-caller yet. Still damn near a virgin with one. Had lots of crows and hawks swoop in and quite a few fox barking at me from long distance but... no blood yet.
[ December 17, 2007, 12:30 PM: Message edited by: smithers ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 17, 2007, 12:34 PM:
So, I guess we should rate your reply appropriately? ha!
I love to pick on smithers! LB
Posted by albert (Member # 98) on December 17, 2007, 02:47 PM:
Answers
1. Stop them as soon as I know i can kill them or they may stop by them selves
2. I stop them by turning the caller off
3. I call continously unil I want to stop them
4. I start off loud then turn it down to a moderate volume after about 15 to 30 secs. a change in volume may cause an approaching coyotes to hang-up.
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on December 17, 2007, 06:41 PM:
Notice, Leonard, that I gave no advice on stopping them when using a remote caller for that very reason.
I purchased a J Stewart Attractor as soon as they came out and an M1 this past March. Mainly, I bought them because I call alone and thought it would up my odds of seeing call-ins before they saw me. I figured, that with the close cover siuations I mainly find myself in, it would be to my benefit to create some space between myself and the sound. It hasn't worked for me so far. Having said that...
I would assume that one would stop an animal anywhere that they felt comfortable shooting it, just as you would when using mouth calls. Atleast that's what I plan on doing, someday, anyday now.
One would also have to assume that the odds of an animal bugging out because the "positioning" or "stopping" sound came from over here instead of over there are slim, unless they are extremely pressured and jumpy. Anyway, if they do bug out and head for the hills, "they will stop! They always do!" LOL...
I had a screech owl land two feet from my head on an overhanging branch one night while using the J Stewart Attractor last year. Even when I batted at that little sumbitch, peeking through my fingers so it couldn't claw my eyes out, it would not fly away. It jumped two branches up and stared at me. That little owl scared the hell outta me. This past Friday I had a hawk do a fly-by. That is also pretty unnerving in the dead of night.
[ December 17, 2007, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: smithers ]
Posted by Bofire (Member # 221) on December 17, 2007, 07:14 PM:
Howler,
I don't have the experience of many of the callers here. What I do, when I dont totally lose it seeing a yote coming, is watch the dog.
Most of them that I see come in, come in pauses, shoot when they pause. If running in, almost anything will stop them, for 2 seconds max, be ready to shoot!.
sitting up, making a sound, moving at all, anything will stop them.
Rich Higgins and Rich Cronk forgot more about calling than I will ever know.
Carl
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on December 17, 2007, 07:59 PM:
quote:
Rich Higgins and Rich Cronk forgot more about calling than I will ever know
Now, Bofire, why in the hell would you lob a softball like that out there just to hang in the air until one of those guys hits it smack dab into the others' mouth hole? Waaaayyy too easy.
Posted by R.Shaw (Member # 73) on December 17, 2007, 09:33 PM:
Some high-density coyotes require
400 yards....start barking
300 yards....remove hat and wave
200 yards....initiate jumping jacks
after that only hope of a standing shot is when the coyote stops and tilts head to drain a little water.
Randy
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on December 17, 2007, 09:52 PM:
Yeah, You gotta love them hard chargers that you spot at 400 yards & roll with the shotgun at 40 yards.
Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on December 17, 2007, 09:55 PM:
Randy,
I took my dauther and her 10 year old friend hunting a couple of weeks ago.
A ten year old pointing and saying I SEE HIM works quite well when they are 175 yards out....
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on December 18, 2007, 06:01 AM:
Randy, where are you going to find any high-density coyotes now days? Mentone, Texas? ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on December 18, 2007, 07:36 AM:
I'm guessing an hour or two away from Twentynine Palms.
Dennis
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on December 18, 2007, 07:50 AM:
Highly dense coyotes? I like to stop them at 300 yards and put 'em down. My Savage will stack 'em .25 MOA at that distance. Sincerely!
"initiate jumping jacks." ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
That may work in Missouri but out here...
[ December 18, 2007, 07:58 AM: Message edited by: smithers ]
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 18, 2007, 07:54 AM:
R.Shaw,
Those high density "city coyotes" in Arizonia are like that. Shucks, they ain't even afraid of human odor, or at least that is what Leonard told me. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Lord, I apologize for that right up there and please be with the starving pygmies down there in Africa---Amen.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 18, 2007, 09:44 AM:
As I have always "maintained", you want high densities, scout around McNeal. Make the pilgrimage; I did.
Good hunting. LB
quote:
For the Electric call guys. I ahve a few questions.
1. when do you stop the coytes for a shot
2. how do you stop them
3. what do you do with the caller leave it on turn it off.
4. Do you turndown the volume when the coyote gets close or let er rip.
#1, this question has been answered very well, and considering all the different circumstances, you just have to watch the body language, and also if he starts to veer off downwind. That will tell you if you need to stop him, or let him come in on a string.
#2, Again, depending on his actions, completely duped, you may want to give him a lip squeak? Movement can work for you, as will messing with the volume on the machine. Usually, they check up for at least a little bit, if you turn the volume down. I vote for not messing with the caller, in MOST situations involving a single. A "whoop" or a low "woof" will work in many cases. A pup distress will stop many coyotes even after they have figured things out, again, thinking of multiples, etc.
#3 I guess I have answered this question, as far as my own opinion? But, I will say that, in terms of controlling the situation, more things can go wrong by fiddling with the caller, changing sound, lowering the volume, shutting it off; than the predictability of leaving well enough alone. Select a reasonable volume level after the first series and drop it down a peg or so. If they are anywhere around they heard it, so you don't really need max volume for twenty minutes.
#4 I guess I already answered this too, from a personal preference? Yes, you can work the volume level as it suits you, depending on wind conditions, etc., but don't wait until you start having an anxiety attack, and let the coyote play you, rather than you being in control of the situation. Calm, deliberate actions will solve many tactical situations, and if you can't learn from your mistakes, you will be kicking yourself more frequently than is necessary.
We all make mistakes, and we all lose a coyote now and then. Get over it, and make sure the next one dies.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on December 18, 2007, 10:50 AM:
"As I have always "maintained"
Lenbo, your catching on!
MAINTAIN, Geordie
[ December 18, 2007, 11:05 AM: Message edited by: CrossJ ]
Posted by R.Shaw (Member # 73) on December 18, 2007, 03:41 PM:
Rich, You guessed it.
Randy
[ December 18, 2007, 03:54 PM: Message edited by: R.Shaw ]
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on December 18, 2007, 09:05 PM:
What kind of "upper" you using on those coyotes Shaw?, or are you using a different "lower"
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 20, 2007, 01:59 PM:
"As I have always "maintained", you want high densities, scout around McNeal. Make the pilgrimage; I did."
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Hey Leonard,
Is it really true that you can call those City coyotes down there in Arizonia simply by whistling the old Dixie tune? Call em right in with wind in your face, even being all sweaty and reaking with human odor? How about banging a garbage can lid with a rock, does that work? I hear all of these rumors ya know? I even read about a coyote hanging out in a grocery store down there awhile back.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 20, 2007, 02:40 PM:
It's incredible, Rich. Not only are they thick as fleas, they are members of the Forest Gump subspecies.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by JD (Member # 768) on December 20, 2007, 03:47 PM:
Momma always said...."a coyote is as a coyote does"
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 20, 2007, 05:00 PM:
Leonard,
Now I am really upset. My Daddy could have moved his family to a coyote caller's paradise like those found in Arizonia just as easily as a cornfield desert like Iowa, for crying out loud! ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on December 21, 2007, 04:56 AM:
Something to do with the heat that makes 'em want to die so easy. Legend has it that TX and NV are the same way. I hear that lead and copper is a delicacy down yaw for them coyote.
Best way to stop a coyote in TX is to yell, "Sit!".
[ December 21, 2007, 05:01 AM: Message edited by: smithers ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 21, 2007, 08:34 AM:
Well, it's a known fact that you can call AZ coyotes with squeeky brakes.......
Posted by skoal (Member # 1492) on December 21, 2007, 08:59 AM:
Yes you can Leonard but the old drum brakes are far superior to the newer disc's. better range of sounds
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 21, 2007, 09:25 AM:
Yeah, that and the door slam.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on December 21, 2007, 09:37 AM:
Az. coyotes are remarkably easy to call. I've never called one with squeaky brakes, but I have called them in with rubber duckies, cafe curtain rods, rubber balloons, silent dog whistles and doggie squeak toys. I've never been able to call one with a Cronk Killer Call or had one answer my Cronk Buffalo Horn howler. I was told that Rich Cronk "Sir" blanked on his one trip to Az some years ago.
I would like to invite "Sir" Cronk to Az. to redeem himself with our push-over coyotes.
If I videoed RC giving our coyotes one of his seminars would any of you guys be interested in watching it?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 21, 2007, 09:44 AM:
Well, yeah? Could sell tickets, even. What's with the "sir" stuff? Just showing respect for your elders?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on December 21, 2007, 10:52 AM:
zang zadam... it's getting a bit chilly in here.
Some people have trouble tootin' on them open reeded whistles. You guys quack me up.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 21, 2007, 11:41 AM:
Mr Cronk also uses glass packs, in certain situations.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 21, 2007, 02:32 PM:
Leonard,
Glass packs work well on beaver, but not so good on coyotes. Did you realize that in order to call a predator with a Cronk call, it is necessary to take it out and actually try it? Next time you speak with uncle Jay, ask him how well the coyotes around Wilcox respond to the sound of a Cronk howler. I think you will find his answer to be interesting.
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on December 21, 2007, 02:41 PM:
The Killer Call has proven it's worthiness 'round here. Much fun to use.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on December 21, 2007, 04:11 PM:
??? Where is Uncle Jay these days, anyway.
I have a Cronk Antler Call on a lanyard & once jumped a coyote while walking into my stand. Since the wind was blowing, I can only conclude that the coyote was responding to the sound of the wind blowing thru the call hanging around my neck in a range beyond my hearing. Ergo; Cronk Calls are soooo good that you don't even need to blow them to call coyotes.
The Cronk Antler Call is a larger version of the Melvin Antler Call.
?? Where's Melvin been lately.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 21, 2007, 05:42 PM:
I have used the Cronk screamer in Az. and S.D. and it does a very good job of bringing in the coyotes.
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on December 21, 2007, 08:31 PM:
Yeah,and I hear those Cronk calls work even better when you are using a .17 Remington or .204 Ruger.LOL
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on December 21, 2007, 08:43 PM:
Hagler vs Leonard, Ali vs Frazier and Cronk vs Higgins.
...I have called them in with rubber duckies, cafe curtain rods, rubber balloons, silent dog whistles and doggie squeak toys.
Cafe curtain rods?
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on December 21, 2007, 09:46 PM:
I wondererd the same thing; What iiiiizz a cafe curtain rod?
Posted by 6mm284 (Member # 1129) on December 22, 2007, 04:24 AM:
Rich, looks like they are ganging up on you, it will take more than a gang to best you.
Been killing a few here as time permits, seem to be more sign out there than I expected but crunchy snow and ice hamper approach.Have been trying to call some in closer, just amazes me how and why these coyotes here just don't responed well to a call. All together different than those west and southwestern coyotes.In november called 13 in on 13 call stands in southwest.
Was undetected setup at 350 yds the other day on four coyotes here locally. blew some low coaxing tones. All they did was look.Blew a phesant distress as they had been hunting switch grass and got no response. So I just shot the big male and the others diaappeared.
[ December 22, 2007, 04:28 AM: Message edited by: 6mm284 ]
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 22, 2007, 07:06 AM:
6mm284,
The coyotes out there in your neck of the woods are real shy in daytime, that's for sure. I'm glad that you are having some luck on those buggers. I think our friend over at Shelby has killed about a dozen of em so far. Spot and stalk mostly.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 22, 2007, 07:21 AM:
"Ali vs Frazier and Cronk vs Higgins."
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Smithers,
That is all in the past for me. I call coyotes whenever I feel well enough to do so. At my age, I will allow no man to tell me when I should leave the poor coyotes alone. The fact that I posted earlier about coyotes circling my caller and refusing to stop was not aimed at anyone at all. Then someone conveniently missed the portion of my post which mentioned the caller being placed CROSS-WIND, where I would be out of the scent cone. This guy then suggests that I was just "banging away" at running coyotes. I actually became fairly good at shooting those running coyotes very dead with only one shot. There are very few people that I won't talk to anymore, those few simply managed to over ride my tolerance level.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on December 22, 2007, 08:16 AM:
posted December 21, 2007 09:46 PM
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I wondererd the same thing; What iiiiizz a cafe curtain rod?
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I love my critters and chick!!!!
Loco
they are the small rods that go inside one another and can create noise sometimEs spring loaded (BUT DONT TRY THIS AT HOME RICH IS A LICENSED DECORATOR)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 22, 2007, 10:30 AM:
You boys need to pay better attention. That's going to be on the test.
Question # 1: What is a "cafe curtain rod" and how is it used, and why greasing it, is a bad idea?
Question # 2: Describe sitting "crosswind" and imagine the face of a clock, if you are at the six o'clock position, what time is it downwind?
*extra credit: what if you are left handed?
Question # 3: What makes the best "cover scent" and why won't it fool a coyote's nose?
Question # 4: What is meant by "surgical placement" in relation to subcalibers and "Hail Mary's"?
Question # 5: Four coyotes are responding. Decision time. You want to run the table but don't know where to start? The closest running coyote, or one that is further out, but stationary?
*extra credit: which caller is best?
You have ten minutes to complete the test! Spelling, punctuation and grammar counts for half your score.
Good luck!
Posted by 6mm284 (Member # 1129) on December 22, 2007, 01:12 PM:
Good god leonard, Had I known there was going to be a test I would not have come to class.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on December 22, 2007, 01:18 PM:
"Question # 4: What is meant by "surgical placement" in relation to subcalibers and "Hail Mary's"?"
It means the writer has never actually used a subcaliber...
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 22, 2007, 02:43 PM:
Nice try, Dave. Back in the good old days, when you were in grade school.
Good hunting. LB
edit: let me rephrase that. I "actually" have killed a fair amount of coyotes with a subcaliber. So, my opinion may not be the same as yours, but it's my opinion, nontheless. Don't get all sensitive on me, it's only a joke.
edit: My experience is limited to two seasons in the early seventies. What year were you born?
[ December 22, 2007, 02:54 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on December 22, 2007, 03:23 PM:
Uh...... Early nineteen seventies or early eighteen seventies w/ sub-caliber muzzle loaders??
Sorry Leonard.......That was just to easy to pass up.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on December 22, 2007, 03:40 PM:
No "sensitive" here Leonard. That was just an inside joke that was maybe "too" inside, I guess?
It does make me smile, when I read about .17's being adequate, only for use by "expert rifleman", capable of "surgical" shot placement. A couple of times, I've asked guys who have written that, if they had ever actually killed a coyote with a .17 and the answers were "no". One of those happened here. That was the inside joke.
"What year were you born?"
1964, first week of November, a day or two before or after Tim, I believe.
You never did get back to me with a mailing address?
- DAA
Posted by JD (Member # 768) on December 22, 2007, 03:41 PM:
1.. A cafe curtain rod is code speak most frequently heard used in places like Californica by homosexuals...greasing it is a bad idea because you never know which Californicationer will get a twinkle in his eye while on a coyote stand.
2.. Sitting crosswind is accomplished by not sitting upwind or down wind ...if you are at six-o-clock it`s too damn dark to be out calling anyway....if your left handed, turn around fool.
3..it`s hard to fool a coyotes nose with cover scent because they always run away before you can get the covers pulled up over their heads.
4..If you blaspheme against sub-calibers & surgical placement thereof, you`ll have to say 20 hail Marys at next weeks Mass.
5.. Always shoot the easiest coyote first & then blame & mock your calling partner for not being able to clean up behind you......unless your in Texas, that`s different.
The best caller Is the one I use.
Did I pass?
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on December 22, 2007, 07:59 PM:
I've been out three times this week and still have not had to stop anything with a woof, squeak or bullet.
If I am shooting a .300 Remington Ultra Mag, then my bullet has more FPE on impact than your bullet has FPS at the muzzle.
"Sub-caliber" is in the eye of the beholder. As is overkill.
Mr. Cronk, I understand completely the intention of your original post and your stance on hunting them whenever you can and however you feel necessary.
[ December 22, 2007, 08:00 PM: Message edited by: smithers ]
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on December 23, 2007, 02:58 PM:
Hey Rich, Merry Christmas.
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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 24, 2007, 02:29 PM:
http://ecards.myfuncards.com/myfuncards/Everyday/GoodBye/10264/3957.jhtml
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on December 24, 2007, 05:04 PM:
Oh geesh, that was funny. Damn Higgins! You sure know how to kill a party.
I finally figured out how Higgins stops mangy old coyotes. He wishes 'em Merry Christmas!!!
(Just funnin'.)
[ December 24, 2007, 05:05 PM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on December 25, 2007, 09:28 AM:
Someone has been hittin' the cowhorn dust again...
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on December 25, 2007, 09:02 PM:
Cool!!!
I'm going to wish Hillary and Rosie "Merry Christmas" now.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on December 25, 2007, 09:23 PM:
Like Lance I was just funnin' in the previous post.
Actually Rich Cnonk and I hunted together this past weekend and became very good friends. I do believe he is a little too affectionate at times, however, we are going to do another hunt next weekend and again on Jan. 12. I will post pics from all of the hunts.
Here is coyote that Cnonk called in with my howler since his don't work in Az. She had advanced mange. That used to be a rarity in Az. but we are beginnng to see it more frequently.
Here Rich is affectionately showing his appreciation that I let him use my Minaska, cuz his "schedule 40" don't workin in Az. either.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on December 25, 2007, 09:38 PM:
LOL's Rich....
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 25, 2007, 11:34 PM:
Oh no! More Brokeback Buddies!
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on December 26, 2007, 07:08 AM:
Leonard,
Make no mistake sir, it is not his "back" that is broke. He is funny, "um-hmm". Not funny "ha-ha", funny "Queer". Umm-Hmm.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on December 26, 2007, 08:19 AM:
Rich, tsk, tsk, I had a hard time (no pun) keeping you off of me. I knew if I looked at you the coyotes fate would befall me. Notice that there are no bullet holes in the coyote?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 26, 2007, 08:35 AM:
A couple observations.
First, if that ain't Rich, I'm a monkey's uncle.
Second, the three finger salute? Entering the Foxpro contest?
Third, does Vic approve of you wearing his Mexican wrestler shoes?
Good hunting. LB
btw, there it is. Proof positive, that Higgins is by far the uglier!
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on December 26, 2007, 09:29 AM:
Leonard, normally I wouldn't disagree. However, I have to use a firearm to kill these coyotes. Rich called them close with my howler lifted his face net and knocked them flat. Some were damaged more than others. As you can see in the photo this one lost her right eye.
[ December 26, 2007, 09:34 AM: Message edited by: Rich Higgins ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 26, 2007, 09:42 AM:
Whatever? I'm declaring the UGLY CONTEST a tie!
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Tyler H (Member # 383) on December 26, 2007, 10:39 AM:
Leonard, the contest would not be legitimate without legitimate contenders, when are you going to post your photo?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 26, 2007, 11:16 AM:
Okay, here's my graduation pic.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on December 26, 2007, 11:24 AM:
Gawd.....I love this place!!!
Posted by Tyler H (Member # 383) on December 26, 2007, 11:36 AM:
And who knew you had peaked.
[ December 26, 2007, 11:37 AM: Message edited by: Tyler H ]
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on December 26, 2007, 11:55 AM:
You guys are ridiculous. You Higgins' sure do go the extra mile to make a man feel uncomfortable in his own skin. Congrats, I'm going to shower and scrape a few layers of skin off to get this filth off me.
Your implication that the above coyote was uglied to death is farcical. We know what the "real" implication was. The facts behind this coyotes mysterious and untimely death will finally come out when some CSI Unit is dispatched to the desert and the scene of the crime. Unlawful Carnal Knowledge...
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on December 26, 2007, 02:06 PM:
My goodness, Grissom. You're taking this very personal aren't you?
To give proper credit, Rich posted years ago that I uglied coyotes to death. He has posted the same about Jay Nistetter and we have posted the same about him. It tickled me no end when Cronk came up with that.
I just take it to a different level.
And finally, Grissom, what is this Freudian carnal fantasy thing that you have going with dead coyotes?
Disturbing. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
[ December 26, 2007, 02:46 PM: Message edited by: Rich Higgins ]
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on December 26, 2007, 02:59 PM:
Grissom?
Freud was a tool.
Disturbed. Mildly...
Kitty kisses, Arianwen.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on December 26, 2007, 03:35 PM:
Kitty Kiss my Keister, Kris.
Say that three times real fast.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 26, 2007, 05:20 PM:
Hey smithers, all is well. These guys joke around all the time, don't get excited.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on December 26, 2007, 06:09 PM:
Damnit, Jim! I forgot to insert a plethora of emoticons to let you guys know that I was spilling random thoughts from my head again.
Another string of letters and numbers fell from my head and into my fingers and I didn't enough.
Sorry to crash the party but you guys are acting like a bunch of puckered assed Liberal's. Take a laxative and some FloMax and get on with the shenanigan's.
Ignore the bonehead in the corner with the tinfoiled Carhart hat on. That'd be me.
Still I beg the question. Grissom? Someone from CSI or a guy with 30 people buried in his basement?
[ December 26, 2007, 06:11 PM: Message edited by: smithers ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 26, 2007, 07:40 PM:
Okay, who stole smithers' password? You're making him look kinda stupid.
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on December 26, 2007, 09:06 PM:
Yes, who is making these contumacious posts under my name?
You're makin' me look like a friggin' idiot. God!
Been out two more times with the e-caller and have not had to woof, whistle or ugly any coyotes to a stop.
[ December 26, 2007, 09:07 PM: Message edited by: smithers ]
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