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Posted by foxhunter69 (Member # 617) on April 06, 2005, 03:06 PM:
how accurate are the factory loads for the 22 hornet and would you suggest it on yotes, fox and bobcats at 100-300 yards?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 06, 2005, 05:09 PM:
No, the Hornet is not known for accuracy and is practically worthless as a 300 yard coyote gun. If you kept your shots inside 100 yards, it may be adequate for gray or red fox? Mostly, that chambering should be used for squirrels and cottontails.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 216) on April 06, 2005, 05:32 PM:
One of my calling buddies used one this season maybe a little bit of last year as well very good out to just over 100 yds and it is plenty accurate 3 shots about 1 inch 46 grain Winchester hollowpoints from Ruger with 20 inch barrel.
Posted by foxhunter69 (Member # 617) on April 06, 2005, 05:44 PM:
most of my shooting will be at greys and reds out to 150 yards and the occasional bobcat and yote at 150 yards
[ April 06, 2005, 06:12 PM: Message edited by: foxhunter69 ]
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on April 06, 2005, 08:12 PM:
Leonards half right, it's certainly not a 300 yard gun:)
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on April 06, 2005, 09:05 PM:
Now, I personally know of at least 2 AZ guys who use the Hornet as their coyote carry gun. Of course, they don't take 300 yd. shots. They don't need to. They know how to call them in for close up shots.
I shoot a Hornet. I've ranged a wheelbarrow full of PD's taken at 200+ yds. with it. It doesn't have the horsepower to risk on a coyote at that distance, but I wouldn't hesitate to take one at 100 yds or less.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 06, 2005, 10:12 PM:
NASA,
two dudes in AZ that use a Hornet as their prime coyote gun is hardly a solid testimonial. I probably know a thousand guys that prefer a 22-250. And, that's a conservative estimate.
I know, that doesn't prove anything, either. We all should use whatever we feel comfortable with.
But. When a newbie asks about using a Hornet for cats and coyotes and fox, out to 300 yards; I have to recommend a little more gun.
What do you say, Tom?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Jack Roberts (Member # 13) on April 06, 2005, 10:56 PM:
The Hornet was fantastic when introduced 75 years ago. Nothing else could touch it. It is not 1930 anymore, there are better chambers available now.
Jack
Posted by foxhunter69 (Member # 617) on April 06, 2005, 11:07 PM:
i know there is better calibers but i am gettin a 223 also but i cant have that much power where ill be hunting with the hornet ill use the 223 at the sand pit
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on April 07, 2005, 07:49 AM:
LB, you're right , of course. And I would never "recommend" a Hornet as a primary coyote gun. I just wanted to point out that they are capable of taking a coyote "under certain circumstances", and they will kill a PD at 250 yds.
Definitely not an "all around gun", but then neither is my .17HMR, .22mag, .220Swift, .223, .243, .270, 30.06, .308, or .44mag carbine. I don't want to own just "one" gun. Just like "one" fishing pole cannot be used for all kinds of fish, one gun is never enough. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
They're just too much fun to limit yourself to only one.
[ April 07, 2005, 07:56 AM: Message edited by: NASA ]
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on April 07, 2005, 08:34 AM:
foxhunter, i haven't shot factory loads in 25 years so I don't know what is currently available. I do know that I tried the Win 46 gr. load back then and was not confident in it's consistant performance. Handloading Sierra or Nosler Hornet bullets made a different performer. I had it reamed to K-Hornet many years ago and that turned it into an entirely different gun.
I was watching video of Tyler shooting a coyote with it when he was 8 years old. Offhand shot at 135 yards put it down but in all honesty that is about the confidence limit for me with that cartridge. Nice and quiet and a great choice for developed areas and I would happily use it if I knew I could keep the coyotes less than 100 yards.
Posted by Steve Craig (Member # 12) on April 10, 2005, 09:11 PM:
Reload it with 10.5 gr. of IMR 4227 and a Hornaday V-Max in 40 gr. and you will have a very accurate and deadly fox caliber. Keep your coyote shots to under 100 yards and it will due in a pinch if one shows up.
Steve
Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on April 11, 2005, 07:58 PM:
fox hunter in virginia like here in pa. theres not many places for a long shot unless your in farm land.your 22 hornet will do just fine for close up shots but i think if you want a good coyote gun i would buy something with a little more punch for long shots.I agree with leonard to a point about using what your comfertable with.I had a shooter using a 270 i think that was to much gun.He shot one of the nicest coyotes i ever called in 3 times.Nothing salvagable but the tail..I use a 243 and sometimes i think its a little to big.
Posted by foxhunter69 (Member # 617) on April 12, 2005, 04:43 PM:
well here in va beach you cant use anything over .22 cal my shots can be out to 400 yard i got access to wildlife property
Posted by Western Rifleman (Member # 393) on April 12, 2005, 05:06 PM:
I re-chambered my Hornet to a .22 K-Hornet ... run a 35 gr. V-Max with a full charge of Lil Gun.
Its an accurate (1 min. or better) and Potent combination!
Try it, you'll Like it! :-)
Cas
Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on April 12, 2005, 07:23 PM:
If you can get shots out to 400 yards and only a 22 caliber is allowed I think a 22.250 would be a good investment
Then if you ever got a chance to get out west in that open country you would have a very fine coyote rifle with you
By the way what do you use on wild hogs down there....? I know they are there cause i got run out of the woods by them one night
Posted by foxhunter69 (Member # 617) on April 13, 2005, 04:31 PM:
12ga slug gun with 3.5" sabot slugs or a 10 ga whichever my family isnt using
Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on April 13, 2005, 04:54 PM:
Sounds like a good dose of medicine for a wild boar...
Posted by foxhunter69 (Member # 617) on April 14, 2005, 11:49 AM:
yup its nice to have a couple of buckshot loads just in case u cant hit them with the slugs if they are charging
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