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Cayotaytalker
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posted February 17, 2011 08:49 AM
Mitt Romney is he going to be americas best or only choice? I my self don't put to much hope in the dude. The real truth is America had better wake up and smell the coffee or we just might get four more years of you know who.Who do guys think can lead america out of the darkness? I my self just don't have to much hope in Romney is all.
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UTcaller
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posted February 17, 2011 09:48 AM
Why not?
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Rich
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posted February 17, 2011 10:01 AM
Romney is a smart fellow and all, but isn't he the one Republican that thinks socialized medicine is a good thing? It seems to me that he spoke about that during his last campaign. I don't see anyone out there that would be a good strong President as of yet. I hope someone will step forward real soon.
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Leonard
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posted February 17, 2011 10:39 AM
Chad, it's not my reason, but I think quite a bit of the electorate is turned off by the Mormon thing?
Wow, who's out there? Thune, Pawlenty, Pence, Gingrich, (the smartest of the bunch) Palin, Bush, and I'm sure there are others I can't think of right now? But these guys need to start talking turkey pretty soon! I would be for an all out assault on Obama.
I heard Karl Rove last night on OReilly and he was disparaging the "birthers" and I don't know why that's a no no? He thinks it scares moderates and independents? All I know is something about Obama stinks, and he does nothing to chase away the smell? I will never forgive you guys for voting for him, including my peabrained brother! Unforgivable!!!!!!!!!!!!
What exactly did that asshole do, to deserve to be the President of the United States of America? Zero qualifications. Now that he is there, demonstrates absolutely no Presidential skills whatsoever. Oh yeah, he reads a teleprompter very well. BFD!
Good hunting. LB
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Kokopelli
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posted February 17, 2011 11:54 AM
I've got nothing specific against the guy, but El Bee speaks the truth; Romney is a Mormon & that's going to be a hard sell in the Baptist Bible Belt.
My belief is that the job of the President is to make us proud to be Americans and then get out of our way. This is why Ronald Reagan was a great President and Obama off bowing to his muslim king, not so great. Right now, I think that Palin has as good a chance as anybody.
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Cayotaytalker
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posted February 17, 2011 01:10 PM
UTcaller,you ask why not? I do not have facts to go on.I,m just not to high on the guy is all.What rich said is true. The guy is smart and knows how to make alot of money.I my self grew up in the bible belt. I,am not mormon but I,m not hung up onit.For the most part I just thought I would toss this out to get a feal for whats blowing in the wind is all.For now I don't like the guy but I don't feal the need to bust his balls.
LB,I got to see Bill last night as well.
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DEL GUE
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posted February 17, 2011 05:10 PM
I'm thinking either Huckabee or Mitch Daniels. Huckabee has a down-home style to him that might make him feel good to people, and Daniels is pretty sharp on economic issues, which is the major thing right now. Gingrich brings a lot of baggage and is somewhat polarizing. Palin is a contender only in her own mind. Haley Barbour might be another option, because he knows how to schmooze people, but he's an insider and that might turn people off some.
Perhaps the real question is what role the Tea Party is going to play, and whether it splits the Republican party or siphons off enough votes to hand the election to the Democrats.
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posted February 17, 2011 06:36 PM
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Perhaps the real question is what role the Tea Party is going to play, and whether it splits the Republican party or siphons off enough votes to hand the election to the Democrats.
You just hit the 10ring on target!
Regardless of how Tea Party advocates feel or how they vote, they will skew the results toward the Democratic party. That is an absolute given and one that the Democrats are counting on to win. Tea Party groups work on the local level but won't on the national front until they consolidate a structured agenda and follow an elected leadership. ![[Frown]](frown.gif) ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Lone Howl
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posted February 17, 2011 07:32 PM
Im a Huckabee fan too. I like Newt but yeah, a little polarizing. Palin...no. Love her but, no.
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JD
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posted February 17, 2011 07:46 PM
Aw c`mon Niko, you know it doesnt matter what the tea party does, its a two party system and they aint one of the two, I`ve said it for years when I hear this Republican based whining about the independants pulling away votes or having to vote for the lesser of two evils....what a bunch of poo, if we all voted for the person we truely thought would be best for the country without regard to political affiliation or trying to keep a certain person out of office I believe this country would overwhelmingly vote for an independant of some flavor. But thats a pipe dream because the majority of voters are afraid that their vote will be wasted so why not just vote for the douche bag that "our party" put out there for us. We lose either way but if we get our guy we can always claim "the lesser of two evils" what a shitty prospect that is.
lets not pretend like any of this shit really matters, on election day you will put a mark beside whatever Republican they put on the ballot for you. And for the majority of us....thats a fact.
In retrospect, dont you wish we would`ve elected that big eared little fella a few years back? Our economy would probably be a little different now.
Ron Paul is the only one who even remotely sounds like he understands and believes in our constitution, LOL wouldnt that be something.
I`ll tell ya this, after 2 years of the HNIC even the Dems are thinking about going independent.Personally, I`m all for it.
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Leonard
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posted February 17, 2011 10:27 PM
If the Tea Party is so misunderstood, we have a huge problem. The Democrats go friggin' nuts at the mention of the name and have assigned a lot of negative labels that I think are completely dishonest.
On the other hand, if the Tea Party intends to actually field their own candidate, that is the height of stupidity. It's just like Ron Paul. Yeah, he's a fiscal conservative and he keeps telling us we're broke, but just about everybody else has chimed in on that issue....except the Democrats.
I don't see how all of these people can keep reinventing the budget and slanting it in a direction that they KNOW is untruthful and dishonest. I mean, Obama can tell us with a straight face that his trillion+ dollar budget will save money ten years from now.
I just wish they would quit using the CBO to crunch BOGUS numbers, then showing us in black and white what WE KNOW ISN'T CORRECT. Somebody needs to hold their feet to the fire and make them tell the truth because this isn't just another way of looking at the problem, it is a complete distortion of the budget!
I'm telling you, somebody is lying through their teeth and if the Republicans can't call them on obvious misstatements of fact, there is something wrong somewhere with the whole cabal.
The Tea Party needs to endorse the Republican Candidate, no ifs ands or buts about it. Sure, they can promote a fiscal conservative, but they better damned sure fall into line if their favorite fails to get the nomination. That's fairly simple logic.
Whatever, we cannot have another fiasco like what happened with Bush the elder losing to Clinton because of an independent on the ballot.
I thought the Tea Party was a good idea, but if they can't state their objectives clearly, and let the Democrats define what they stand for, they need to fold their tent and get the hell out of town.
Good hunting. LB
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JD
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posted February 18, 2011 06:21 AM
True statements LB but in the end, especially now, Dems will mark the box for their candidate & we will mark the Rep candidate, period, I dont think the tea party makes a difference nor do the independents, my point is that if this country could get past the 2 party system I believe we would overwhelmingly put in an independant of some sort, but everyone is so damn afraid of what happened to papa Bush, blah blah blah.
Most english speaking Dems are about fed up with what the shitheads in their party are doing, nows the time for a damn good independent to show up & steal those votes along with most of the republican votes who feel the same way about our own party.
Just pipe dreams, all of it, there are really only 2 choices and both will probably suck.
If I have to choose one out of a pile of Republican crooks.....I say we go with The Donald at least that goofy bastard knows nothing of politics and understands economics enough to know that we`re fucking ourselves the way we deal with China and others. I think he would make DRASTIC economic changes.
I`m gonna put on my tinfoil hat now so you guys cant read my mind. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Rich
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posted February 18, 2011 07:41 AM
"The Tea Party needs to endorse the Republican Candidate, no ifs ands or buts about it."
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Very true, and I hope to hell they are smart enough to know it. According to Fox news, 50 percent of the American people still believe that Obama is the best thing since Aunt Jemima pancakes.
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DanS
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posted February 18, 2011 08:09 AM
And hopefully the Republicans will have a decent candidate instead of a Dole/McCain/Romney Rino.
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UTcaller
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posted February 18, 2011 10:29 AM
Screw the fact that he's a Mormon.What do people think he'll try to legalize Polygamy? LOL
The guy knows Business better than anyone else running.Might get us out of this shit hole of an Economy that we're in.
Good Hunting Chad
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Leonard
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posted February 18, 2011 10:50 AM
Okay, Chad. On paper, he looks, not good, but great. Talks well, smart dresser, knows about money, no democrat voodoo shit.
But, you say screw the fact that he's Mormon. Unfortunately, this is something the opposition will use and also unfortunately, there are millions of voters that will vote for the other guy simply because of his religion.
There is just something that bothers me about Romney as a candidate. Getting elected Governor is one thing, but at the National level, those boys play hardball, and anybody that harbors any suspicion about Mormons as a cult will find a lot of reinforcement provided to them. I just think if he loses 10% of the votes handed to a Republican on a silver platter, he's a loser. We can't afford to lose 2% of likely Republican voters. This is going to be a squeaker, either way the shoe falls.
I believe Romney would lose a few voters. Okay, Palin would lose a few. Gingrich would lose a few. Look at McCain. If that idiot knew how to run a campain, he would be President right now. People are looking for a reason to not vote for Obama. Don't give them a reason to stick with Obama. We need a perfect candidate with no flaws and I think that disqualifies Romney.
However, if he makes it work, I say great. He will be vastly better than the shithead we have now.
Good hunting. LB
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UTcaller
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posted February 18, 2011 11:03 AM
I really don't think there is a perfect candidate. There are afew that have alot to offer but all have weaknesses.
But when did that stop someone from getting into the White House.Look at who we have now for hell sakes.
Good Hunting Chad
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Leonard
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posted February 18, 2011 12:51 PM
The same Democrats that trashed Bush, stirred up hate, genuine hate, and all with very little to go on. The war, he lied, people died, no WMD, but he also kept us safe for most of the eight years. There is an element in the Democrat Party, Liberals, of course, that complain about war, any war and they know how to make a big deal out of it.
Now, those guys have a memory shorter than their dicks and they want to know why all the animosity toward our President, whom we are supposed to respect and stand behind as Americans. Now it's patriotism, before it was raw hate and I don't think Bush deserved the shit he got, but he got it big time. I don't think Obama has reached that level of hate, yet, but he has done a whole bunch of stuff that should have everybody ready to tar and feather him and run him out of town on a rail.
There isn't a Democrat alive that I have respect for, but I don't hate them. That's the difference, they actually hate while we talk issues. They spout emotion and we use logic. It ain't an even fight when half the country is out of work and the other half isn't paying any attention. They are still believing in a friggin' slogan about CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN. That's all it takes with people, you got a slick slogan, you win.
Now, with all the people that don't pay taxes, what do they care about Bush tax cuts? That's totally abstract. Like this flap over public employees in Wisconsin, they want no cuts in their pay and where the hell else are they going to find savings to balance a budget?
That's like the cop in New Jersey that can't survive with a 2% pay raise, forgetting all the construction people that have had it very rough and only wish they had something steady and guaranteed, like working for the government and getting a 2% raise. And, most of those construction people have to buy their own insurance, whereas, the cop has to kick in (what was it?) I think 15%, and before they paid nothing.
At one time, people sacrificed to work for the government, in any capacity, but not any more. Those unions in the public sector have been getting generous raises for years. Police and Firemen in CA can retire with 95% of their salary. How many construction workers can say that?
If we can't control what public employees make in compensation, we can't control anything. It's the inmates running the asylum. It's a NIMBY attitude. Well, I know we have to balance the budget, but why me? Well, it's because we cannot sustain the entitlements any more. DEMOCRATS DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT!
They think all we have to do is raise taxes/no problem. Well, there is a point beyond which the people can't be bled dry any longer and it has probably reached that point? Obama is still screwing around with social programs when we need financial solutions that will get the economy running and not just with phony "stimulus" programs.
I think we have had it with bureaucratic solutions like $200,000 per green job created, that involves a minority hired to calk windows for $65,000 per year. A Twofer, gets them off welfare and back to work with three administrative positions created to pay, monitor, document and procure the calking guns.
It's a losing battle all the way around. Bleak. Too much stupidity. Yum! Grape Kool Aid!
Good hunting. LB
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posted February 18, 2011 07:24 PM
LEONARD FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!! the only logic I have heard!
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Aznative
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posted February 19, 2011 12:33 PM
I"ll second that nomination: Leonard for President. Afterall he runs an internet forum. That means he is as qualified as the guy who invented the internet, Al Gore. This also makes Leonard more qualified than a neighborhood activist since the internet is not just national but international. That means Leonard is an International activist.
I just got step one done for Leonard for President. I just completed his resume.
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Leonard
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posted February 19, 2011 01:46 PM
I would probably accept a draft, but in the meantime, I'll form an exploratory committee after testing the waters and careful evaluation. I need to brush off my stump speech. Time to dump this change that nobody believes in!
Send your money to my PAC, it will be used wisely. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted February 19, 2011 03:35 PM
I dunno, El Bee;
You might want to lose the "Jerry Brown / Governor MoonBeam" bumber stickers before you head for D.C.
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Leonard
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posted February 19, 2011 06:57 PM
I left an opening right in the middle so I can see the road.
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Kokopelli
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posted February 20, 2011 04:53 AM
?????.......It must be a Kalifornia Thang, putting the bumber stickers on the windsheild instead of on the back of the vechicles. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Actually, El Bee, it's your Cabinet that would concern me if you were to win.
Andy in charge of Foreign Relations
Dan Carey running Public Education
Krusty in charge of Protocol.
I myself would sign on & help out, but I'm studying for the Cart-Pusher test at Wal-Mart & I think that I'll pass it this time. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Leonard
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posted February 20, 2011 12:15 PM
With your command of the obvious, I have you penciled in for Press Secretary/spokesperson.
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