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Rich
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posted March 07, 2007 09:44 AM
Here is a photo of Slydog with his decoy and a few dead coyotes.
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Leonard
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posted March 07, 2007 10:04 AM
LOOK OUT, SLY! You are being back doored.
I am very interested in hearing how this decoy works for you because I personally found little value in lugging it around . How is it used?
Good hunting. LB
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slydog
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posted March 07, 2007 11:41 AM
First off thanks Rich for posting my picture and for the laugh over the phone.....LOL... I'm still grinning.
LB,
I have used this "DEEK" as its her name, for 21 years and I feel that she adds about 20-25% to my take each year. Aplication is key and the country that you hunt also will dictate how its used but I have very good footage of how coyotes respond to "Deek".
I "THINK" when I am on stand and I use a coyote vocalization, the coyote that responds to that sound expects to see a coyote when he gets there, if there ain't no coyote standing there, little red flags go up and they head for the wind. By putting the "Deek" out there, he/she sees a coyote and hears a coyote and responds with out thinking. My thoughts are that if you can get a coyote to respond quickly they don't have time to think, they tend not to go for the wind and are more likely to end up in the back of my truck posing as a dead moviestar...........LOL
I have also had responces where "Deek" freeked them out and there were no hero pic's. More times than not it works well and gives me more time and more opertunity.
sly
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Melvin
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posted March 07, 2007 12:14 PM
Sly,You got a nice bunch of coyotes there,and the deek looks alive.Do you use coyote urin around the deek?
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slydog
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posted March 07, 2007 05:22 PM
Melvin,
certian times of year I do but for the most part I don't need that reinforcement to get the job done. Mainly durring the late season when the coyote population is made up of survivors, The ones that suspect every sound they hear and go on auto pilot, straight for the wind.
Sure I have a few that hang up but more often than not its as good as a 1/4"gun.
sly
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slydog
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posted March 07, 2007 05:42 PM
LB: "I am very interested in hearing how this decoy works for you because I personally found little value in lugging it around . How is it used?
I use it at almost every stand, But I also howl at almost every stand. "Deek" is a female and not that big so she don't intimadate the younger coyotes. As I have said I mainly use female type sounds with very little if any barks or agressive
type sounds untill after the responding coyotes show their hand. I use the alpha type sounds as the ACE in the hole.
Many times I use a mover or a prey animal type decoy and place it 5-6 yards from "Deek" and in front of her. I like many of the decoys but the one I use mainly is the MOJO "critter", I like the spuratic movement, it seems to keep their attention.
sly
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Rich
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posted March 07, 2007 07:07 PM
Ok guys, Badger this-----
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slydog
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posted March 07, 2007 07:41 PM
Ok boys here is another badger that tips the scale at just under the 30# mark @ 29.7 lbs. I shot this one today just before the rain started. Should have killed 2 but was on the phone.....LOL
This is on the pasture that I shot 74 on last season. I shot one day before yesterday while talkin to Ronnie, in this same pasture. Only in America.. It looks like I'm going to break the magical 100 this year if things keep going the way they are. This badger is #51 and I haven't started on the pasture across the road yet. Its a little over 11,000 acres. Its the pasture where I shot 10 badger in less than 4 hours. Its all windage and elevation..........lol
BTW This rifle is the new TC/Encore Pro Hunter with the MGM custom Slydog taper 1/12 twist 27 1/2" Douglas barrel. I sent the reciver to Stratton custom TC accessorys in Hurricane UT. to have Steve tune the trigger, hone and cook a new spring to a crisp 1.5lb trigger. This gun shoots a SUB 1/4" group.
I'm shooting a Dakota 20Tac w/40grn Berger bullet @ 4000 fps with 1/4" accuricy
OOOOyes, Thanks Rich for posting this pic for me
sly
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Wiley E
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posted March 07, 2007 09:12 PM
Leonard: "I am very interested in hearing how this decoy works for you because I personally found little value in lugging it around."
I agree Leonard!
I know many ADC guys that had a decoy and they all are being used for mouse nests. Most guys do not like to expose themselves enough to place the decoy where it's visible. I haven't seen any advantage to it. Bill Austin had one many years ago and he too quit using it.
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slydog
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posted March 07, 2007 11:11 PM
Maybe thats why its working so well for me.
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Rich
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posted March 08, 2007 04:59 AM
"Most guys do not like to expose themselves enough to place the decoy where it's visible."
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Wiley,
That is what you once said about electronic calling machines also. Did you retire the W.T. yet? ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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TA17Rem
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posted March 08, 2007 06:54 AM
In some areas of the U.S. i see where it could be an advantage to use one. I have a decoy i used a few times and found that it was a waste of time for me in the type of area i was calling in.
When the coyote came in to see the decoy, i already had the coyote in my cross-hairs.
I would think that if a caller could read the body language of the coyote and use his calls properly the decoy would'nt be needed. When useing a electric caller i place it on the way in or i just set it next to me..
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JeremyKS
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posted March 08, 2007 07:20 AM
Very interesting barrel on that gun. Can you tell us a little more about it? Whats the reason for it?
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Rich
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posted March 08, 2007 07:40 AM
"I would think that if a caller could read the body language of the coyote and use his calls properly the decoy would'nt be needed. When useing a electric caller i place it on the way in or i just set it next to me.."
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TA,
You set the electronic caller right beside you? No wonder your coyotes seem uncallable. Did you ever wonder how many coyotes busted you when they stood inside the cover and looked over there for source of the screams? Did you ever wonder how many coyotes circled downwind, caught your scent and left without your knowing that you even called anything? Have you ever wondered how many coyotes saw you from their hideout in the ditch, or maybe looked over there for the rabbit they just heard but there was nothing there to see, so they left in disgust? Gosh TA, there are people here who would love to help you, but you don't seem to listen very well. I know this is going to piss you off, but if I can help you start using your head a little bit then maybe you can start calling coyotes. I am an old man TA, I don't need to prove anything to anybody and I don't need to talk to the wall either. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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slydog
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posted March 08, 2007 07:43 AM
The TC/Encore is a fairly light gun with standard barrels. I want to see bullet strike, don't want no jump, also barrel whip from light barrels is one scorce of "Flyers" in your groups. By adding that bulk to the front half of the barrel I'm fixing to problems at once.
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Leonard
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posted March 08, 2007 07:50 AM
...and maybe introducing a different one? The barrel harmonics would seem to be abrupt, but when, you said it's a quarter incher, right? Odd looking solution.
Good hunting. LB
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slydog
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posted March 08, 2007 08:10 AM
LB,
I also have one in 22PPC , 25-06 and .308, they all shoot very well also.
Even a blind hog will root up an acorn once in a while......LOL
sly
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JeremyKS
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posted March 08, 2007 08:37 AM
very interesting you think its better than just a normal heavy barrel
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slydog
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posted March 08, 2007 10:11 AM
Well sir, for what I'm doing and the aplication its better for me. In other aplications I realy can't say.
My needs were simple.
1: I wanted weight forward.
2: I didn't want to have to custom build every forarm for all the diferent barrels.
3: I needed all the barrels to be the same except in caliber.
4: I wanted the barrels to cool as fast as possable.
and I wanted an 11` target crown inset to just under the caliber diamiter, to protect that crown.
All this is incorperated into this barrel design.
lucky for me it worked well and I had to make very little changes in design to get this design to work across the board.
Shooting the TC/Encore is great for me in that I have only one stock fit, one trigger pull and can change calibers at will with out any change in weight or feel. There are drawbacks in that I don't have a 20 round clip full of extra shots, or a clip with 5 extra shots with little effort to reload.
It has turned me into a much more consistant shooter and I get on the call faster to stop the runners for those multiple situations.
we all have to be comfortable in our own level of ugly....... If you get my meaning.
To each his own.
sly
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JeremyKS
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posted March 08, 2007 10:19 AM
Not doubting anything, just never seen anything like it. Looks like it must work.
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slydog
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posted March 08, 2007 10:40 AM
No worries, I was just trying to explain the why's and reasons. No offence taken
This was an extra and in no way was it planed but I'm tickled with the outcome, By doing this conture it allows the scope to ride closer to the bore. That was a bonus
sly
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector
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posted March 08, 2007 11:04 AM
Rich; Thanks for trying to help. When i'm in the Dakotas Rich that is when i place the electric caller beside me. When out there i use a Dennis Kirk caller and it don't have a remote.
As you know i bought a big country bandit this year to use here at home and it has a remote.. I have been setting it up wind of my stand about 30-40 yards. I have a rabbit decoy that sits on a stick and the wind makes it move some, i also have a coyote decoy i used a few times here and out west.
When i would come back the next day to some of my stands i could clearly see that a coyote did come in. but not dureing the time i was on stand, 5-10 hours later.. Anyway thanks again Rich for the help, i do listen to everything that has been said and i take it into consideration. Hopefuly this year or next i can spend some time with Scott H. and apply what i learn from him and turn this problem around with these Mn. coyotes...
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TA17Rem
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posted March 08, 2007 11:18 AM
Slydog: Very nice shooting rigg, and you have some good ideas there..
My rifles are set up simuler, but i use a bolt action switch barrel, just like youre set-up i use the same stock and just change the barrels.
I do alot of walking so i keep my barrels on the lighter side. The stocks i use are the sako hunter style with high comb, better eye to scope alignment and more area of stock rests against the cheek, less bite.
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Rich
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posted March 08, 2007 01:33 PM
"Hopefuly this year or next i can spend some time with Scott H. and apply what i learn from him and turn this problem around with these Mn. coyotes..."
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Who is Scott H ? Can he call coyotes? Maybe I need to meet that guy sometime.
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slydog
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posted March 08, 2007 02:31 PM
HA..HA..HA....ROFLMAO.....that is some funny sh** Rich
TA17Rem, Thanks, its a killin rig, not a plinkin rig. I rely on this rig every day. This is just my rig of choice, maybe not for everyone but its accurate and consistant.
sly
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