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Author Topic: Freshwater predator of the north CatTracker Knows what it's all about Member # 3526 posted June 10, 2010 08:53 AM                   I know this ain't the type of predator most of us pursue but it's the dog days of June so I thought I would cool things down a little. My son and I just returned from northern Minnesota visiting family and friends and doing a little fishing. Had to let this Northern Pike go as it didn't meet the size restriction. This makes two years in a row where we have caught a Northern over 10 lbs and had to release it. Oh well, the big ones aren't that good eating anyway... Posts: 38 | From: NM | Registered: Nov 2009  |  IP: Logged Andy L HI, I'M THE NEW MODERATOR OF THE CENTRAL MISSOURI FORUM, PULL MY FINGER! Member # 642 posted June 10, 2010 09:42 AM                   Thats fantatastic! I have always wanted to go to Canada, or MN, makes me puke in my mouth a little, and fish for pike and walleye. Especially when the pike are in the shallow weeds and can be fished with spinnerbait or flippin. Looks like big fun. Congrats. -------------------- Andy Posts: 2645 | From: Central Missouri | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged DanS Scorched Earth (AZ Sector) Member # 316 posted June 10, 2010 02:06 PM                   slimy snakes. They're pretty good if you cut out the Y-bone though. -------------------- futuaris nisi irrisus ridebis Saepe Expertus, Semper Fidelis, Fratres Aeterni: Often Tested, Always Faithful. Brothers Forever! Posts: 1465 | From: flyover country | Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted June 10, 2010 02:45 PM                      What a rush one of those would be with a fly rod & a streamer. I gather that you have a slot limit where you're fishing?? -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 7584 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Cdog911 "There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell. Member # 7 posted June 10, 2010 03:55 PM                       I was going to bring up slot length limits, too. I just wish I was someplace where a guy could wear a jacket in daylight without having a heat stroke. The temps ain't high here yet, but my gawd, you can wear the air. -------------------- I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do. Posts: 5438 | From: The gun-lovin', gun-friendly wild, wild west | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted June 10, 2010 05:06 PM                      You'll get NO sympayhy from me CDude. It was 106* on my patio today. -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 7584 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector Member # 794 posted June 10, 2010 06:14 PM                    It hit a gawd awfull blistering 68 degrees here today, I sure hope it cools down some in the next day or so.. In the last couple of years or so Mn. has been putting slot limits on fish from certain lakes to give everyone a chance to have the exspeariance of catching some of thses big monsters and recently they have been doing the same even for sunfish and which I think is a good thing.. -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5070 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Locohead World Famous Smoke Dancer Member # 15 posted June 10, 2010 07:55 PM                    What is a slot limit? It seems like I could just replace the word, "slot" for "size"??? Or should I know what a "slot" is? I understand a different kind of slot - like where you put a coin. "Slit" I git. "Slut" and "slat" too, but ya'lls use of "slot" is new to me. -------------------- I love my critters and chick!!!! :) Posts: 2219 | From: CO | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Cdog911 "There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell. Member # 7 posted June 10, 2010 08:15 PM                       Danny, A slot length limit as opposed to a regular length limit (any fish over a certain minimum length) , states that you can take a fish between this (minimum) length, and that (maximum) length, thus creating a "slot" size of keepable fish, forcing you to release fish that are undersized, as well as those over the maximum which help bolster the breeding stock in an impoundment. For black bass, many places impose a slot length limit and only allow you to take fish between 15 and 18 inches, for example. Very restrictive, but in time, those big sows become a real treat to catch, you have a good chace of making a large catch, and they really fill a lake up with offspring. AT some point, when the smaller fish are showing signs of stunting, the upper limit will be relaxed and some of the larger fish taken. Kinda like saying you can't shoot a buck with less than four points, or more than twelve. -------------------- I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do. Posts: 5438 | From: The gun-lovin', gun-friendly wild, wild west | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted June 10, 2010 08:22 PM                      A slot, in the case of Az. bass is that out of a limit of 6 bass, no more than one of them can be between 13 and 16 inches. It protects the breeding size fish. Less than 13 inches is under the slot, more than 16 is over the slot & 13 to 16 inches is in the slot. Clear as mud, eh?? -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 7584 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Krustyklimber prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee Member # 72 posted June 10, 2010 09:15 PM                    Slot limits also work the other way, too, fish can be retained under say 11" and over 16"... this assures breeding age fish are left to do so, and older and younger fish populations are culled. I wore a jacket and a raincoat yesterday, it was a frickin' monsoon... and it only got to 61° today. Summer is broken. Krusty -------------------- Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that! Posts: 1912 | From: Deep in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged CatTracker Knows what it's all about Member # 3526 posted June 11, 2010 07:31 AM                   The lake I was fishing on requires Northern Pike between 24-36" to be released. This one measured 34.5". Kokopelli...Fly rod & streamer wouldn't get this pike landed unless it was hooked outside the lip. Steel leaders only boys! I should have taken a picture of the inside of its mouth to show the array of razor sharp teeth. Posts: 38 | From: NM | Registered: Nov 2009  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector Member # 794 posted June 11, 2010 07:46 AM                    CatTracker Is right about the steel leaders those northerns love to suck the lure or hook all the way in.. There is a lake I fish on where we troll with shad-raps or simular lures for northern and on some creeks at home just use the good OL dare-devel spoons. -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5070 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted June 11, 2010 12:56 PM                      If 100 pound tarpon can be caught on fly fishing equiptment, I'm pretty sure that there's a way to land a pike with a fly rod. Heavy mono or SpiderWire leader mayhap. It's not like the beasts are leader shy!!!!! -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 7584 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Cdog911 "There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell. Member # 7 posted June 11, 2010 03:15 PM                       C'mon down the KS, Krusty. I'll get that fixed for ya right away. -------------------- I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do. Posts: 5438 | From: The gun-lovin', gun-friendly wild, wild west | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged JoeF resides "back east" Member # 228 posted June 11, 2010 06:00 PM                    Koko P has got it right. Much of the mid-west has a protected slot of 12-15 inches for black bass. Release everything within that range - they are the most prolific breeders. Some common local walleye restrictions are nothing under 15, x amount up to 20", and one over 27". That gives 'em a chance to grow, a size range to "harvest" (fugg, I hate that word), a protected slot for the breeding "sluts", and a limited trophy range. Posts: 646 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2003  |  IP: Logged JoeF resides "back east" Member # 228 posted June 11, 2010 06:01 PM                    Forgot to say - great fish Cattracker, and CT junior! Posts: 646 | From: Midwest | Registered: Aug 2003  |  IP: Logged Krustyklimber prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee Member # 72 posted June 11, 2010 07:06 PM                    Kokopelli, I know, somewhere in my past, I was taught how to hand tie tippets with a steel leader at the business end... I want to say a grapevine knot was (passed through and then) tied around the swedged loop of the steel leader. Lures were then crimped onto these tippets, with the smallest of crimp beads. I did a Google search, since the idea wouldn't leave me alone, and found many references to a single strand tippet of heavy mono, flourocarbon, or even steel leader, for bass, pike and musky (since as you say these fish aren't leader shy). The grapevine knot is also known as the double fisherman's knot. Lance, I lived through a September and October (in K.C. MO.), and there's no way I'd even voluntarily subject myself to that kind of heat AND humidity ever again! But thanks for offerin'! Krusty -------------------- Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that! Posts: 1912 | From: Deep in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted June 11, 2010 07:55 PM                       I am amazed to know there is a friggin slot limit on northerns in Minneesota. In CA, I think we have a slot on sturgeons? But, if there is any other,I am not aware? Throw back a 34 inch northern? I don't know about that shit? In fact, I do question the "scientific" validity of regs such as this? I think it's unilateral and followed unquestioned. Should it be unilateral? I seriously doubt it. Should it be unquestioned? Absolutely not! Make them cocksuckers justify it with hard data. Nine times out of ten, when you call them on it, they can't show you proof and that really bothers me. Okay, case in point. The news media is obsessed with calculating the amount of oil spewing into the Gulf from this big spill. I guess they don't see how rediculous they look to keep revising their estimates every friggin day. And, they are wasting their time because they have absolutely no way of calculating the volume with any accuracy, so.....it's a wild ass guess! Why hell, I can come up with a guess that is just as accurate, which is not very, but everybody accepts what these educated idiots tell them. I think it's stupid. First of all, you have a hole of a specific diameter. Now you have to calculate the pressure forcing the oil and methane . That's the problem. How are they going to "measure" the pressure of that cloud? Scratch head and slack jaw reply, GOSH, umm, looks like it's exactly 3 gazillion barrels per hour and the MEDIA brethlessly reports these figures as if they are verifiable, and extremely important to know. Bullshit. They don't know. Why not just admit it? Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31467 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector Member # 794 posted June 11, 2010 08:17 PM                    Leonard in some lakes the DNR will moniter how many are taken and what size, they will also go out and do some netting to get a idea of whats there.. If a lake is noted for produceing big fish and they are not seeing it, it maybe due to over fishing so they put a size limit on what you can and cannot keep.. Its a good thing they are doing. Others get the chance to catch a big one and those that like to keep them for eating can catch a limit that is the right size for eating.. Another thing to keep in mind is they don't have a slot limit for all lakes just the ones that get hit the hardest and are haveing trouble. To my understanding the lakes that do have a slot limit was brought on by the public and not the DNR with the exception of a lake that is split in half. One half is on trible land and the other state and everyone is fighting for a piece of the pie... [ June 11, 2010, 08:22 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ] -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5070 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged

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