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Topic: Calling Oldtimer style
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Tim Behle
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posted January 09, 2005 04:34 PM
I was out doing some scouting this morning, and came across a place that looked like it should hold a coyote, and the temptations were just to great.
I wasn't really prepared to go calling, other than having both a rifle and a couple of hand calls in the truck. So I went Danny style, with no camo.
I found a nice spot to call from, but the sun was just barely up, and the ground looked cold and damp, so I decided to just stand on the shady side of a tree.
I blew a couple a series on the call. Then like our aging friends, had to pause to take a leak on the bushes in front of me.
Then I blew another series or two when a small coyote came running down the ridge a few hundred yards in front of me.
I quit calling and just let him come, as he got into the open about 200 yards away, he began quartering across to make my down wind. As he got to my side of the field, at about 130 yards. I cat squalled with my voice. And just like Jay says "They always stop, they always do"
I sank a little .223 bullet in between his ribs and ended up with this for my troubles.
Sure isn't going to win any big coyote records, But I always enjoy calling one in with a mouth call.
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onecoyote
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posted January 09, 2005 05:49 PM
Good story lol.
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Weasel
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posted January 09, 2005 05:59 PM
Now that is a good story. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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GUTPILE
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posted January 09, 2005 07:20 PM
Tim,
I got one of them hangin' on the mirror with car freshner stinky stuff on it. At least you got one. Me, zero this weekend. But, I got a cool picture of an otter eating a BIG BROWN TROUT this morning. That will never happen again unless I was Marty Stoufer. Remember him. Everthing was staged.
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Greenside
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posted January 10, 2005 04:59 AM
Sounds like a fun time. Too bad you didn't place a quarter or pen knife in the picture so we would have something to scale the size of that monster. LOL
Dennis
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Norm
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posted January 10, 2005 05:18 AM
Good job Tim; Thanks for sharing.
It is good to remove the culls from the gene pool. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Cal Taylor
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posted January 10, 2005 05:36 AM
Old Timer?
Here I was thinking you called it in with a blade of grass and shot it with a 25-35 WCF.
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Rich Higgins
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posted January 10, 2005 10:01 AM
Those rocks in the pic are football size boulders.
(note to Tim... you should have wiped the milk off her mouth before taking the photo)
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Cdog911
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posted January 10, 2005 10:40 AM
Tim,
If you'd just waited a minute or two, I'm sure at some point she'd have been lined up while on the teat to offer a one shot-two kills opportunity. Just funnin' ya. You did better than me, too. Lotsa ice and cold, but nuttin' furry.
Old school is like the old guy that first taught me how to call. He didn't believe in cammies. Just an old army BDU ballcap in green woodland. Overalls and a quilted brown nylon jacket. He'd walk to where he was going to sit down, get comfortable, then while whilin' away a few minutes to let things settle down a bit, he'd light one up and smoke a cigarette. Once that one was gone, he'd light up another and start calling. Squeal, squeal, puff, puff, puff, repeat..bang, flop. How he managed to call and kill as many as he did wreaking of cigarette smoke is beyond me but he was consistently successful. I guess nobody ever told him you can't call coyotes like that:)
Actually, that dog has just as much skin as a regular coyote. He just outgrew it, pulled it all taut and that makes it look smaller.
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Tim Behle
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posted January 10, 2005 06:22 PM
Rich,
I've been meaning to write you for a couple of days, I'll just ask you here.
This weekend I spent several hours in areas that have always held a lot of coyote dens. Do they generally go to certain area's in a valley to make dens? I've found more dens in this area, than any place else.
What I was noticing, was that a lot of the old dens had fresh tracks around the entrance. They would circle the entrance a time or two, then step off and make a scrape.
Isn't this a little early to be laying claim to den sites? Or is this a common practice?
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Rich Higgins
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posted January 12, 2005 01:58 PM
Hey Tim, coyotes will den wherever they feel secure and reuse those dens each year. As they become more habituated to humans they are feeling secure in some strange places. I found a den in Desert Hills that is in a vacant lot in a housing developement. Another one almost at the top of a hill at the edge of a neighborhood in Cave Creek. You can see the den and the coyotes from any street in the neighborhood.
Time of denning behavior is a puzzle though. I just finished editing a video that has a long clip of a denning bitch. We filmed her for 17 minutes as she exhibited classic den paranoia. Almost frantic in her need to get to the dens and check them out as we tweaked her with a dozen different sounds. She had cleaned out three dens that were located in a triangle about 10 feet apart. When she was finally satisfied that the dens were safe she ran around to the other side of us and spent several minutes bark-threat howling at us. I taped this on Dec. 8 three years ago. Most studies place denning season at about whelping time March-May. We see coyotes digging multiple dens as early as Dec. We found newly dug dens on a flat next to a wash that we call often. Eleven of them. All dug by coyotes,, all within about a two acre area. They dug all those in January.
As to the scrapes, if the coyotes made the srapes by scratching with all four feet as they howled, claiming-declaring territory I would say that is normal behavior. If they made the scrape after urinating, then that is not normal. I discussed this with Camenzind some time back. He said that in all the studies, all the years of observations, he had seen coyotes scent mark near their den only one time. That was after a neighboring pack had killed the pups that were left unattended.
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Cal Taylor
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posted January 12, 2005 05:37 PM
Another thing that you know already Tim, is that a coyote will snoop around any kind of hole, including old dens when hunting. Hence the famous "dirt hole" trap sets. And as far as scratches, up here they are everywhere. They are pairing up, getting territorial, and getting ready to breed. I have really been seeing tons of kick backs and scratches, we have snow on the ground and the dirt they kick up is easily spotable. As far as den cleanouts, the ground is a little stiff up here. Actually froze solid. But I little or nothing about the breeding and denning habits of southern Arizona coyotes. But as stated by the guru, you won't find urine or droppings around a den until the pups are out and about.
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Tim Behle
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posted January 12, 2005 05:56 PM
As I was getting back to the truck this morning, I had a coyote start howling at me. It was the most laid back, lackadaisical howling that I think I have ever heard.
It was almost as if he was telling me that he knew I was there, and would prefer that I left as soon as I was ready. He just didn't seem to give a damn about anything.
I walk past one frequently checked out and scratched up den each morning. I may just have to make up a nice post set with some gland lure and lots of pee. Just to see how they react.
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Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take
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Leonard
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posted January 12, 2005 06:15 PM
hey, just had to give Higgy some recognition when I noticed that he has logged over 1000 posts. Guru Status
Some of you guys better hurry, or Krusty will beat you. You know who you are.
Good hunting. LB
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