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Author Topic: Hard chargers Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 25, 2010 09:42 AM                       What's your solution? Shoot them on the run, or what method do you use to try and stop them....and how often does it work? Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Andy L HI, I'M THE NEW MODERATOR OF THE CENTRAL MISSOURI FORUM, PULL MY FINGER! Member # 642 posted February 25, 2010 10:57 AM                   Bark and they will stop. They always do. -------------------- Andy Posts: 2645 | From: Central Missouri | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector Member # 794 posted February 25, 2010 11:13 AM                    [ March 28, 2010, 09:43 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ] -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5064 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 25, 2010 11:56 AM                       They don't always stop, Andy. For lip squeaks, barks or whoops, no dice. So, if you have to shoot on the run, while incoming? Or after you find out you can't stop them, they wise up and start turning a simple incoming shot into more of a challenge while they get another gear, and aren't straight lining any more? For everybody but Comfortable Tim, that is....a valuable asset on any man's flank! You know, the situation where it seems all the coyotes are acting and behaving the same, at least for a segment of time. Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector Member # 794 posted February 25, 2010 12:30 PM                    Thanks Leonard.. [ March 28, 2010, 09:43 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ] -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5064 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 25, 2010 12:37 PM                       Yes, as a matter of fact. More than a few. Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Andy L HI, I'M THE NEW MODERATOR OF THE CENTRAL MISSOURI FORUM, PULL MY FINGER! Member # 642 posted February 25, 2010 01:09 PM                   Of course they always stop. They have to. I read it on PM! -------------------- Andy Posts: 2645 | From: Central Missouri | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 25, 2010 01:34 PM                       You may have read it on PM, but these coyotes didn't. Who said so, anyway? Barry? He seems to be the "go to" guy for solid, no bs info? I even learned to make a standing stand because of him, although it wasn't successful, but that's not his fault. He's definitely my hero, replacing Higgy in that capacity, for the most part. Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector Member # 794 posted February 25, 2010 01:34 PM                    [ March 28, 2010, 09:42 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ] -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5064 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 25, 2010 01:35 PM                       Yes -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged TA17Rem Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector Member # 794 posted February 25, 2010 01:36 PM                    [ March 28, 2010, 09:42 PM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ] -------------------- What if I told you, the left wing and right wing both belong to same bird! Posts: 5064 | From: S.D. | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 25, 2010 01:51 PM                       ....he must have been refering to mule deer? -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted February 25, 2010 02:34 PM                      What yardages are you guys talking about??? Open ground or tight cover???? When I have a hard charger, I put the shotgun bead on it's nose & when it's out about 30 yards, close my eyes and yank the trigger. Here's a thought; Unless you NEED to kill a coyote, (ADC comes to mind) why take the easy shot?? If you only practice what you're good at...............you'll never get any good-er. Why not wait for a shot with a little challenge to it???? If you miss; so what?? Learn from it. If you make the tough shot; walk back to the truck grunting "I am the greatest!!!" -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 7580 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged tlbradford Rimfires are MAGIC on COYOTES! If you do your part Member # 1232 posted February 25, 2010 02:37 PM                    For me I'll take what I can get. I try to know the areas they may get to where they will no longer offer a shot, because of the terrain, or cover. If they start to get close to those areas and I have yelped, barked, hollered and they are still coming, I will take a shot then. -------------------- "Dan Carey ain't that special" - LB Posts: 423 | From: Spokane Valley, WA | Registered: Mar 2007  |  IP: Logged Andy L HI, I'M THE NEW MODERATOR OF THE CENTRAL MISSOURI FORUM, PULL MY FINGER! Member # 642 posted February 25, 2010 03:08 PM                   Ive had a lot of AZ coyotes come rippin through stands and not stop no matter what I tried. I call them flashers. LOL They just flash thru the stand. Not so much around here. I think its a difference in terrain and pressure more than anything. -------------------- Andy Posts: 2645 | From: Central Missouri | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 25, 2010 05:16 PM                       I forgot about koko. For purposes of this discusion, we are not considering shotgun solutions. I am refering to relatively open ground where you can see an approach from (oh?) maybe 200 yards, or so. Normally, somebody DOES mention not allowing them to get TOO close before an action is taken? Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged TOM64 Knows what it's all about Member # 561 posted February 25, 2010 05:33 PM                   Hard chargers coming straight in, I just shoot. If they are coming at an angle or to the side I've tried woofing, yelling and even bawling like a calf. Sometimes they are quicker than me sometimes not. I've been threatening to tote the shotty more but haven't had much oppurtunity this year. Posts: 2283 | From: okieland | Registered: Feb 2005  |  IP: Logged Rich 2,000th post PAKMAN Member # 112 posted February 25, 2010 06:16 PM                       It was coyotes like Leonard mentions that taught me how to shoot running coyotes. Most of those that wouldn't stop took place when I was using the old Johnny Stewart 512 that was sitting 20-50 yards cross-wind of me. They would run in, circle around the caller and run off again. Yep, it took me awhile to learn the proper lead and all, but they finally began to stop after the boom of my Mauser. -------------------- If you call the coyotes in close, you won't NEED a high dollar range finder. Posts: 2854 | From: Iowa | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged jwelk Knows what it's all about Member # 2051 posted February 25, 2010 06:20 PM                    For some reason I don't get near as many hard chargers here like I did when I lived in AZ. But I just try to get the best shot I can with the rifle before they run over me.But if I have the shot gun I will let them come.I dont mind killing them at my feet. Posts: 51 | From: oklahoma | Registered: Nov 2007  |  IP: Logged TOM64 Knows what it's all about Member # 561 posted February 25, 2010 08:51 PM                   Serious question, has anyone tried the estrus chirp for this or anything else for that matter? Posts: 2283 | From: okieland | Registered: Feb 2005  |  IP: Logged Locohead World Famous Smoke Dancer Member # 15 posted February 25, 2010 08:55 PM                    What does sound like anyway? "Bowsy wowzy woofy woof woof" ??? -------------------- I love my critters and chick!!!! :) Posts: 2219 | From: CO | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged UTcaller NEVADA NIGHT FIGHTER Member # 8 posted February 26, 2010 12:35 AM                    Leonard, That many hard chargers,you must be either hunting Mexico or Northern Nevada. lol Good Hunting Chad Posts: 1612 | From: Utah | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 26, 2010 02:14 AM                       Weren't NV, Chad. Hey, this isn't a trick question, ya bunch of pusses! Seriously, how far do you get them run before you start doing something about it? Do you count on them checking up? But, what if they don't? I think I killed one within five feet of the caller and another within less than ten feet and the only one that checked up that first day, I ground sluiced her, which was the only stand I made with a shotgun, because of the situation. Now, stop with the bs and let's have some input. Good hunting. LB Clue #1: the woof was not working. What's up with that? -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged CrossJ SECOND PLACE: PAUL RYAN Look-a-like contest Member # 884 posted February 26, 2010 06:47 AM                    OK Lb, I'll bite. What can you do? I definately think it is a bigger problem while useing electronics. Hope you can pick them up sooner and mute the call...that has helped some. As far as the ones that break from the brush from inside 200 yrds, who knows? I was in the same situation about a month ago, they just couldnt be shut down. A woof, bleat or bark was either ignored or just changed the direction of the sprint. I don't like running shots, they are lower percentage, no matter what anyone says. But, you have to try...huh? I hate shot gunning coyotes, but its probably the better choice in this situation. So, maybe thats the answer, 'Ground Sleuce'(sp) them!!! Maintain -------------------- A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body. Posts: 1025 | From: on a water tower | Registered: Jul 2006  |  IP: Logged Paul Melching Radical Operator Forum "You won't get past the front gate" Member # 885 posted February 26, 2010 07:00 AM                   Mist Em! I know evryone likes to think of themselves as a rifleman but sometimes a shot gun is a better choice. If within range I would rather get the job done than half done and wacth them run off And not be able to recover them. Hell Ive missed with a shot gun -------------------- Those who value security over liberty soon will have neither ! Posts: 4188 | From: The forest ! north of the dez. | Registered: Jul 2006  |  IP: Logged

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