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Topic: Coyote eat coyote?
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Barndog
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posted January 14, 2004 08:41 PM
I've heard that coyotes will NOT eat their own.
Butch shot a coyote and left it, a week later Butch takes me to show me his kill since we were close, we spoked some ravens away, and there was fresh snow, and lots of tracks around the carcus, but no real evidence of coyote eating the animal.
Has anyone seen a coyote eat another coyote? and is this normal and or common?
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Purple220
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posted January 15, 2004 04:29 AM
In west Texas our coyotes aren't so picky about what they eat. A free meal is a free meal whether their own or not. I have left coyotes hanging on a fence and two days later the only thing remaining is about 6" of leg bone still wired to the fence post. Yote tracks and scat were all around the used to be carcass. They will definitely eat their own on occasions.
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Steve Craig
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posted January 15, 2004 06:02 AM
They usually have to be pretty hungry to eat another coyote. You will see a lot of sign AROUND a carcus;tracks,scat,kickbacks where they urinnated, and so forth. But the carcus will be eaten by buzzards,ravens,crows,possums and eagles. I have fed my urine collection coyotes the meat from a coyote carcus, but again, they will let it set for days before eating it. Throw in a muskrat and it will be gone in minutes while the coyote meat will rot. I used to have pet coyotes for many years, and they would not touch it.
Just what I have found
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Leonard
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posted January 15, 2004 08:46 AM
The answers we see, here, are accurate, to the best of my knowledge?
In other words, it can happen, but it's not a given.
I have seen more evidence of coyotes eatingdead coyotes in the state of Arizona than anywhere else, and my guess it is because of density?
Two examples: I have returned to a location where I dumped carcasses months before, in Nevada, and not seen any evidence, by man or beast. I assume the ravens and turkey vultures have drifted south for the winter, and magpies are not that numerous, so they SEEM to go undiscovered?
Second: I have many times, out of curiosity, placed a dead coyote in a place, in a fashion where I would recognize disturbance. Sometimes, but not all times, I have come back to complete consumption, and it is almost always in target rich, Environs, Arizona.
What about road kill? We all see them. Anybody notice chewing on them? I have not. Incidently, I consider RK's a valuable scouting tool.
Good hunting. LB
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Barndog
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posted January 15, 2004 02:07 PM
There were 4 coyotes hit in one week on the highway, all within a mile of each other, last sept. It finally took a snow plow to remove them in December. One other thing about road kill. I've ran over rabbits on the road at night and within two hours they are gone, if I don't stop and get out of the car. Get out of the car and its usually 2 or 3 days (mostly birds). Is everyone else seeing the same thing?
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Leonard
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posted January 15, 2004 02:23 PM
Hmmm. Do you think they are being snatched under cover of darkness? Daytime, birds seem to dine on the spot, not drag them off. However, when I said RK, I was refering to dead coyotes.
Good hunting. LB
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Tim Behle
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posted January 15, 2004 05:15 PM
Leonard,
I've a pile of dead coyotes in the wash south of my house. Even the birds are leaving them alone.
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Rich Higgins
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posted January 15, 2004 05:44 PM
Same here Tim. I don't recall seeing a carcass that I left in the desert fed upon by anything. One month ago Tyler and I tossed some skinned carcasses into a feedlot where a rancher says he loses $5000 a year in calves to coyotes. Last Sat they were still there.
On the other hand club memebers bring the whole animal back to check-in at the monthly club hunts and they are picked up by the couple that run the raptor rehabilitation center in Phx. They say the birds love the coyotes.
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Leonard
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posted January 15, 2004 06:01 PM
I never saw any munching on a pile of coyotes, either. Just singles.
Good hunting. LB
edit: Hey Rich, what about Airdales? They like 'em?
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catskin
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posted January 15, 2004 07:15 PM
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Not really Leonard, although any of my dogs will pull a paw out of the dead pile once in a while and toss it around.
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Curt2u
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posted January 15, 2004 08:26 PM
I can only say what it has been like where I live. Like many other subjects, it appears most have had varying experiences with this subject. I don't think there is a definitive answer. Lot's of variables.
I had a spot where I dumped coyotes on our ranch and as fast as I put them there they were ate and surrounded by tracks and coyote scat, laden with coyote fur. I've dumped skinned coyote carcasses and had coyotes, ravens, magpies, hawks and eagles eat on them as well. I even had a couple coyotes killed and eaten in my traps by larger predators while doing 24 hour checks.
But I've also seen skinned or unskinned coyote carcasses go untouched. All different seasons. Can't say why. But also have seen dead cattle, sheep, and horses go untouched while others disappear in a few days or sooner.
I once brought a fresh dead donkey to a canyon on our place that was loaded with coyotes. Even skinned back the hide on one side to make it more appealing. Checked it from the highway with spotting scope on the way home almost daily. Nothing touched it for a couple months then the whole thing disappeared without a trace.
Anyway, I guess my answer to the questions would be....
"Has anyone seen a coyote eat another coyote?" Yes, many times.
"And is this normal and or common?" In my area, quite often it is, but sometimes not. To say it is not uncommon in my area would be more accurate though.
Take care, Curt
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Purple220
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posted January 15, 2004 09:00 PM
This time of year we have no buzzards and very few crows around. 99 percent of the time I'll say nothing will touch a dead coyote. Two seperate occasions last winter coyotes did eat their own. Each of these cases were single killed dogs at complete different parts of my area. One yote was completey devoured with just a few tuffs of hair remaining. Scat was found around where the carcass was with hair and bone in it. Strange things do happen with the yodel dog at times.
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Tactical.20
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posted February 06, 2004 07:25 PM
After I skin mine in the winter, once in a while I have seen where they have eaten some on one. I see they eat the fox, after the coon. The guy I trap for in WY has a daughter in MT. Her husband and her have a cattle ranch. He said the coyotes were hiding between the hay stacks to keep warm because they were full of mange. He said they would pull a stack out one day and shoot the one or ones that came out, and the next day the other sick ones had them ate up. His wife is so screwed up she said she would rather see them die of the mange than see them in a trap!!! They have antis in MT, too, hey!T.20
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Bluetrapper
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posted February 07, 2004 07:53 AM
Interesting views from different locations.I'll throw in my 2 cents worth.Twenty years ago when a trapper buddy and I ran a long line we actually used carcasses of coyotes as bait for other coyotes.We would use cut off feet and carcasses for attraction.Coyotes would not eat carcasses from other group members but would readily eat one from another area. Bluetrapper
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Leonard
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posted February 07, 2004 09:06 AM
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Coyotes would not eat carcasses from other group members but would readily eat one from another area. Bluetrapper
Now, that's an interesting theory!
Good hunting. LB
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