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Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on May 08, 2005, 01:06 PM:
What firearm, do you use mainly or only on the dogs? How about your favorite ammo?
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on May 08, 2005, 04:03 PM:
For the last 18 years or so I have used and have had great success with my Rem. Model 700 in 22-250.Has been a great rifle.A Good bullet that I used alot this year is the 55 grain Sierra boatail spitzer(#1365).Really does the job on coyotes>BANG FLOP>
This year I am going to hit it hard with my new 204 Ruger.GOOD HUNTING C.O
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on May 08, 2005, 04:38 PM:
I used a 243 when I first started calling. Too much gun. In My Opinion anyway. Dont want to start a war here.
For the last several years, I used a 223AI with a 52gr AMax. Very good gun. Well placed shots yield minimal hide damage. Kills em dead and is somewhat forgiving for a bad shot. God knows I need that. I really like that gun.
Little over a year ago, I got a 17Rem. I love the way it shoots and, for the most part, the way it kills coyotes and the lack of hide damage. But, due to several things beyond my control, I have hunted less since I have had it than in years, and therefore, havent killed enough coyotes with it yet to personally make a solid opinion one way or the other.
I did lose a coyote with the 17 this year, which Im not convinced I would have with the 223AI. Granted, it wasnt the optimal shot, maybe I shouldnt have even taken it, but I did. It appeared to hit him a little back and lost it.
Time will tell. I guess to answer the question, at the moment, the 223AI would have to be my favorite, just because of amount of time used and results. I suspicion the 17Rem will turn out to be as good or better in the future. I also plan on giving the 204 a good workout sometime soon as well.
We shall see.
Andy
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on May 08, 2005, 05:28 PM:
I don't have a only on dogs rifle. I take what ever predator shows up " in season " but most times they are coyotes.
I've always shot a 22-250 or a 220 swift for many years tell now. I'm now shooting a 223WSSM and I'm impressed with the performance so far.
I'm using factory ammo at this time, Win 55 gr Ballistic Silvertips at 3850 fps and Win 64 gr Power Points at 3600 fps.
I'm told that I can get way over 4000 fps if I wish with the 40 gr bullet....I don't wish to go there lol. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on May 08, 2005, 06:19 PM:
I've used quite a few different rifes & calibers. I estimate, I've shot(wounded) 40 dogs or so, on the first shot. Hit in the chest & a handfull in the gut over the yrs. With .223 & 22-250.
Knocked most of them down on the first hit. All of them got back up et ran. But, managed to re-connect & kill some, before they got away.
On the other hand I've killed more than that with those two calibers. Hitting them in the same body area, on the first shot...DRT.
It's interesting to say the least. Say ya shoot 2 coyotes in the "exact" same spot(please play along). One drops dead the other runs off...Go figure.
[ May 08, 2005, 06:20 PM: Message edited by: 2dogs ]
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on May 08, 2005, 07:11 PM:
2dogs,
What kind of bullet were you shooting?
I use mostly a 17 Remington or a .223 on coyotes. But I did pick up a .243 towards the end of the year and had great bang-flop luck with it!
Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on May 08, 2005, 07:21 PM:
2Dogs, I've used the 22.250 and think its one great caliber,i killed a lot of animals with it at long ranges...Andy you didn't start a war but i don't agree with you...I use a 243 and it does no more damage than a 22.250 when loaded down with an 87 grain bullet...Fellows i think your gone to the extreme end of the spectrum with the smaller calibers...I don't think they will ever come out with anything better than the 22.250, 220 swift,223 or the 6mm calibers for coyote size varmints.(Its nice to experiment but i think you will come back to one of the "good old calibers."
Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on May 08, 2005, 07:35 PM:
Tim,
Mostly 55 SP's & 45gr HP's in .223. These shots were mostly between 150-200yrds. I might add the majority of these yotes were 35lbs or better.
I started useing 50, 55 & 60gr Ballistic-Tips around 4-yrs ago. They keep them on the ground better, than what I was useing.
The vast majority of the male yotes in my area run 35-low 40's. With an occasional 45-50lb'er. The largest ones, are the hardest to stalk up on.
I'm still honing my callin skills. So looking to bag more big boys, down the road.
The 22-250 was 55gr FMJ & 55gr SP.
Future plans, include a .243wssm upper for my .223 Bushmaster AR.
[ May 08, 2005, 07:48 PM: Message edited by: 2dogs ]
Posted by DJ in AZ (Member # 276) on May 08, 2005, 07:57 PM:
I use a 243 tika with 70 gr noslers handloads. Before this I used a 223. Lost a few dogs with the 223 (may have not been hit exactly right) but if your not worried about fur I think the 243 is one of the best call guns out there.
I have yet to lose a dog due to a bad hit with the 243.(And believe me, I've hit a few bad)Also,less wind drift- more downrange punch(than the 22's) on those long shots that we all have to take now and then.
[ May 08, 2005, 08:11 PM: Message edited by: DJ in AZ ]
Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on May 08, 2005, 09:54 PM:
I suppose this will make me the odd man out, but the one gun I find myself taking more than any other is the 12 ga Mossberg 835 with a TruGlo Red Dot sight on it. Short barrel and quick pointing, it works well in the brushy areas I hunt here in New Hampshire. I have been looking at the 935 which is a semi auto, and might end up with one before the calling season starts again.
An other gun I have been playing around with is a Rugar Mini 14. We are limited to a 5 shot clip here, and I picked one up pretty cheap - 250 in almost new condition. It is shooting about 2 1/2 inch groups with a Bushnell Red Dot site on it at 75 yards, which is about as far as the shots will be here for me. A little work and I will be able to get that down some I am sure, but it looks like it is going to be a fine calling rifle in the near future. Could be a bit light for some of the bigger coyotes we encounter sometimes here but if that happens, I'll just shoot 'em twice.
Posted by Lungbuster (Member # 630) on May 08, 2005, 10:41 PM:
Al,
I highly recomend the 935. I love mine, it is a great shooting shotgun.
Here is an after action pic of mine.
By the way, the coyotes were called in using the call I bought off of your ebay store. Thanks!
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Favorite ammo would be #4 buckshot, but I am planning on experimenting with the new "dead coyote" load. Their website claims 100 yard kills with a shotgun.
Pretty amazing stuff, if it's true.....
[ May 08, 2005, 11:34 PM: Message edited by: Lungbuster ]
Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on May 09, 2005, 08:10 AM:
Hey, glad the call worked for you ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Those coyotes seem to have seen better days though.
I'm using the 3" #4 buck also, sometimes when I have a realy manly moment, I will shoot some 3 1/2 inchers. I sure do like that overbored barrel. Don't know if all of the hype is true, but it sure seems to shoot a lot better than any regular shotgun I have used, and confidence is half the battle. Best thing I did to my gun was to put one of the Limbsaver Recoil pads on it. Much better than the stock pad for sure.
Yes, the 935 is going to find it's way into my collection soon. I've read nothing but good reports about it from everyone. All I have been able to find here though are 26 and 28 inch barrels. I had a guy who would order me one in the short 22 or 24, but he wanted a bit too much money. I keep my eye open at Dick's Sporting Goods and they know I want one, so it wont be long.
Al
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on May 09, 2005, 02:39 PM:
Melvin,
I didnt experiment with bullets much with the 243. When I started, I wasnt very old, and the older gent that used to take me along calling, well, thats what he used. But, he never pulled any fur in his life. I used to salvage what was salvageable to throw in with my trapped fur for the winter. (BTW, as for legends go, no one has probably ever heard of him, but he was a true pioneer around here. No internet or magazines or videos to learn from. Just went and did it. Good at it too. Sure he hasnt killed as many as alot of you guys, but hes pretty damn good for a ozark hillbilly.) Anyway, I didnt reload. Main choices were 80gr Hollopoint or 100gr PSP. Yeah, it did a great job on killing coyotes and foxes. But, again this is just the way I see it, it was kinda like using a 300 Win on whitetails. It does a fantastic job of killing and dont do alot of damage if placed right, but damn thats a big ole gun for the animal and distance.
I bounced right over the 22-250. My dad had one and I shot it some. It did good, but I ended up with the 223. Then got the 223AI, which dont make alot of difference. But it does a fine job on coyotes. And, from what Ive seen, the 17 does fine too. Just havent had enough personal hands on experience with it as of yet.
Andy
Edit: When calling heavy cover, which we do around here quite a bit, one with a rifle and one with a shotgun with 4 buck is a pretty deadly combo.
[ May 09, 2005, 02:40 PM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 10, 2005, 03:27 AM:
Has anybody tried carrying a shotgun and a holstered Contender or Rem.XP100R with shooting sticks??
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on May 14, 2005, 02:05 PM:
I started with a .22. I shot one coyote that took off running and yelping and I felt really bad. So realizing that a big BB gun wasn't quite enough I opted to use my 30.06. I figured that shooting my elk gun would make me a beter shot. Then i fell in love with this .243 that i still use today when I'm not armed with my favorite...the Canon XL1. I havn't used much of either the past 2 years.
Posted by Zach (Member # 526) on May 14, 2005, 05:30 PM:
Ruger .223 Most coyotes are dead on the first shot with a 55gr SP, but then again I am not shooting large volumes of coyotes. It works for me.
Posted by bem243 (Member # 607) on May 15, 2005, 06:11 PM:
My long time "go-to" gun is my 28 year old Ruger 77V chambered in .243 Win. Until about 3 years ago it had only shot my hand loads (75 & 85 grain Speers) for coyotes and 100 grain loads for our local white tails. It gets a little heavy in the field but it has never let me down if I do my part right.
Bruce
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 15, 2005, 09:02 PM:
Welcome to New Huntmasters, bem243. Glad to have you on board.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on May 15, 2005, 09:28 PM:
On the males a 12.7x 70 Schuler with 535 gr V- Max's. On females a 10.3x 65R Baenzinger with 290 gr blitzkings. Brass is little hard to find, and a tad costly at $72.00 a round for the Schuler, but worth the spectacular results.
Ronnie
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on May 19, 2005, 07:46 PM:
I always have a hard time picking my favorite but the one I use the most and have the most confidence in is my 16" Colt HBAR with a 2.5-8 Leupold scope.
Been playing with a .17 Rem in a Sako model 75 and just picked up a Bushmaster light weight with an Eo-tech on it.
Time will tell if the Colt is still king but I know the .223 is my favorite caliber. Either I know my limits with it or it just fits my style of hunting, I have no problems with it and a 50 grain ballistic tip.
Posted by A.D.B. (Member # 659) on May 24, 2005, 08:15 AM:
I like the .243 myself.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 25, 2005, 12:42 AM:
ADB, I can't think of a valid reason for you to register with two different screen names and different email accounts. How about we limit you to one to a customer?
So...I disabled the Hotmail registration, unless you want this AOL deactivated, instead? Your choice. LB
Posted by stubbicatt (Member # 669) on June 09, 2005, 06:23 PM:
I've had moderately good luck out to 200 meters with a home built kalashnikov variant with a 3.5 scope, in 5.45x39 caliber. The ammunition is inexpensive, and quite effective.
Regards,
Stubb
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on June 09, 2005, 06:39 PM:
Stubbicatt,
Welcome! That sounds like an interesting round, can you tell me a little more? What brass is it based on? What bullet weights are you using?
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on June 10, 2005, 09:56 PM:
I won't claim it to be best -- whatever works for you and is a humane caliber for coyotes will do fine, but I shoot a Remington 700 .22-250. Rarely is South Texas fur worth keeping, so I shoot standard off-the-shelf Remington .22-250 cartridges.
Prior, I primarily used an old Savage .222 model 340B. Same off-the-shelf ammo.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on June 11, 2005, 07:46 AM:
Potato Cannon (spud gun)Idaho Reds propelled by 2 seconds of Aqua Net seemed to be too much. Won't do that again.
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on June 11, 2005, 08:42 AM:
Funny ... there's a fancy new strip club in Boise named Idaho Reds.
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on June 11, 2005, 09:49 AM:
Rich,
I believe it could be to much. I watched a person shoot one of those potatoes right through the grill and radiator of a chevy wagon. That was from about 15 yards.
2dogs, Shoot mostly a 22-250, but do use a 25-06 or .264 if my partner lets me go along on complaint calls.
Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on June 11, 2005, 10:28 AM:
Greenside,
I'm planning on getting a .243 WSSM upper for my Bushmaster .223 lower. Should be plenty-o-gun on them far away dogs.
Are you from Des Moines area?
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on June 11, 2005, 06:26 PM:
Rich,
Try using gas. Works way better, and believe it or not, it's still cheaper than hairspray.
Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on June 11, 2005, 10:10 PM:
Many years ago we used carbide and water.."The same stuff the miners used in there head lamps"..I suppose it would be hard to find these days.
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on June 12, 2005, 04:52 AM:
Tim,
You use GAS in a tater gun? Wow, I wouldnt have had the balls to try that one. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Ive tried starting fluid, hairspray and a few other sprays, but not gas. Thats pretty funny. Give some details as to the performance and safety factors, please.
Hey, heres a new thread. How many names have you heard for a spud launcher, and does it irritate you?
Andy
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