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Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on January 21, 2006, 03:39 PM:

I know I've been quiet for a time, but now I'm back in all my splinder lol. [Roll Eyes]

Who in the heck has been killing coyotes besides Q. I don't want to hear numbers, I want to see pictures.

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on January 21, 2006, 04:44 PM:

Danny,
I am trying to catch up with ***** Anderson, so I went out and killed 93 coyotes this week.
_______________
Now that was a funny joke right up there, yep that was a funny joke. [Cool]

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on January 21, 2006, 05:32 PM:

Around here, you'd have to kill one coyote, then shoot it 92 more times. [Eek!]

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on January 21, 2006, 05:39 PM:

I've kill three kit fox in the last two days. Does that count?

I called in one coyote this morning. SOB backdoored me. Never got a shot. Just suddenly realized that he was standing there, about 10 yards away looking at me.

I hate it when that happens!

Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on January 21, 2006, 06:22 PM:

This is actually my favorite time of year,late Jan and Feb. Ive been doing real well last two weeks. I had a guy from Sweden who I met over on that other board (PM), come out for two days two weeks ago, went out for fox in the Mts, and got skunked. Next day we went for coyotes,and called five, he killed three. Ive been out almost every free day and been hammering them. Went out this morning, made six stands and only had one dry one. Called five coyotes, killed four, so I was quite pleased. Funny trend last three weeks, all of the coyotes Ive shot have been male except for one female, go figure?

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on January 21, 2006, 07:57 PM:

Dang Vic, Save some for me will you?

I made 4-5 stands this morning and only saw the one. Never even had time to get the safety off before it was gone.

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on January 21, 2006, 08:12 PM:

Pictures, pictures....I want to see pictures lol.

Posted by Bryan J (Member # 106) on January 21, 2006, 10:23 PM:

Ok Danny here is a picture. You have likely already seen it though. [Wink]

Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 22, 2006, 03:35 AM:

SOOooo, thats...who you are Bryan [Eek!]

. Nice mess-o-coyotes [Cool]

I'm going out this am. Finally got some decent snow. Won't last long, so I intend to hunt hard the next few days.

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on January 22, 2006, 06:10 AM:

AZ-Hunter,

Mike and Shawn came by Friday night, and said that this had been the worst week of calling that they have ever had in this Valley.

What are you doing different than the rest of us?

Did you go out and buy one of those Wildlife Technologies callers?

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on January 22, 2006, 07:33 AM:

Bryan J, whos the old guy on the quad? Is that Rich with part of his 93 coyotes? [Big Grin]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 22, 2006, 07:58 AM:

That's onecoyote in the above pic.

Tim, be sure and say "hi" to Shaun and Mike for me.

I'm headed for AZ. See ya, LB

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on January 22, 2006, 08:50 AM:

Tim, it's the same across the state. Yesterday was the annual Multi-Club Hunt. Four clubs were represented including the Tucson Club. I don't know how many attended the check=in. One hell of a lot considering that it was held 2 hours north of Phoenix. The parking area looked like the lot at Wal-Mart.
No cats were turned in, only 2 fox and 20 coyotes were turned in. We turned in three coyotes, all were mature males and came in to howls and mating yipes, what Ronnie named "Estrus Chirps". All were oozing and the youngest one, a 2 year old, already had that strong rank odor to him.
Everyone said that they just weren't coming in to prey distress. Eddy Hawkins turned in 4 from the Tucson area. I don't know what sounds he used on his Foxpro. Maybe he will tell us. Eddie?

Posted by JeremyKS (Member # 736) on January 22, 2006, 10:00 AM:

Well while everybody is at it I will tell how bad it is in KS. I went out yesterday with fresh snow on the ground (only about 1 inch) I made 6 sets and had 2 come in. The first one came in to about 30 yds but I could not see him at all, I was sitting on a rise but in grass that was about 3.5 feet high(dang gov. needs to allow grazing, but anyways). The only thing I knew was something was coming at me from my back and it was moving quick judging by the sound it was making coming through the ice covered grass. That will make your heart speed up for sure. I decide the only way I’m going to do this is by standing up, so I stand up with my shotgun in hand and by now I can see it’s a coyote and it’s leaving so I shoot with the shotgun with no luck. He came in to coyote talk and coyote distress sounds. The second coyote must have seen my pickup because he was leaving by the time I saw him. So Kansas is pretty dead right now but this could be also that I am trying to call coyotes that have been shot at many times by now since I have been hunting public ground.

Posted by Bryan J (Member # 106) on January 22, 2006, 10:10 AM:

Yea, that was an attempt at humor. Nice pile of coyotes onecoyote!

I haven’t been out for two weeks now. I was planning to go out today but didn’t want to white knuckle it over the snow and ice, the drive would have me all wound up and that isn’t what it is all about for me. Maybe I can get my corn moved this week and get back after them.

This is the only picture I have of the last coyote I killed, my partner called her up with a combination of howls, coyote distress, and rabbit distress. She is mixed in there with all the other contestants’ animals somewhere. I’m the second silhouette from the left sorry for the poor lighting.

Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 22, 2006, 10:40 AM:

Ok...So onecoyote is the same as Billy The Kid? [Confused]

I'm starting to have flashbacks.
--------------------

edit; For another "nothing hunt". I should've know better. Slight Fog/high humidity [Mad]

this am. Visibility to 3/4 mile.

Can't recall EVER spotting one laying/out in these conditions. My addiction has taken over my better judgement...Need some [reality]meds.

[ January 22, 2006, 10:44 AM: Message edited by: 2dogs ]

Posted by KevinKKaller (Member # 559) on January 22, 2006, 11:43 AM:

A frend and I went out yesterday in some vary hard called country neer my house. Nothing till about 11:30 I called with dog vocalls and set the fox pro out with crow sounds took 15 min but we got a pair to respond. Thay charged in Thay stoped 10 and 20 yards infront of my pard Gary laid out the old male almost no teath in his mouth. we wear backdoored on the next stand no shots fired. We will see what next weekend brings. Good hunting Kevin

Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on January 22, 2006, 12:31 PM:

Tim:
Only thing different Im doing, is Im not calling in this valley any longer. The valley is so damned shot over,and run over, it disappoints me to no end,a pity, compared to what it was several years ago.
As far as sounds, you know me, no howling,no estrus chirps or penile peeps, just rabbit in distress. I sold the ole WT, and dearly miss the cottontail distress they had, now I use a fox pro, which doesnt have a real good cottontail, but DAAs jackrabbit is my "go-to" sound de jour.
Ive called and killed more coyotes in the last two weeks, than in the last three months. Two hours any direction will get you into coyotes Tim, but this damned valley is a dead zone, I swear.

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on January 22, 2006, 12:58 PM:

Tim, the valley is shot over, run over with rabbit in distress. Try some coyote chatter, whether estrus chirps, penile peeps or pussy purrs and you won't have to drive 2 hours in any direction. [Smile]

Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on January 22, 2006, 03:33 PM:

No pics. to share, BUT Friday we did 4 sets and managed to kill one female, used what could be discribed as pup yips or excited feeding yips only! We could actually see that coyote at about 600 yards, and she came right in after just one series. There was a second coyote, but he/it didn't commit well and avoided even getting shot at! I got smoked yesterday, saw two on the way out to go calling, where I couldn't hunt of course. Then we called in 4 this a.m.,(two pair) started each set with yips again and one series of rabbit distress and that was all that was needed. Killed both females, no sign of them being in season yet!!

Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 216) on January 22, 2006, 05:32 PM:

Rich we called with hand calls until last few stands then used Fox Pro with woodpecker. Started out with 2 Howls on every stand that we used hand calls, killed a double with just the howls then 5 seconds of pup distress on one stand, and about 10 seconds of pup after the howls got a single on another stand. Fox Pro called 1 single.

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on January 22, 2006, 07:05 PM:

Thanks Eddie, pretty much in line with what everyone else reported in the central part of the state.

Posted by Bill (Member # 49) on January 22, 2006, 10:35 PM:

Rich Higgins or Eddie. How did the clubs do? Did PVCI win again?

Bill

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on January 23, 2006, 05:23 AM:

I wish some one had mentioned Dave's Utah Jack sound to me a week or so sooner. I'd never heard mention of it until about a week after I sent his black box and CD back to him.

Everything between here and Safford is over called and shot out. The Valley north of Bowie used to be a great place to call. Now it's good for turd viewing. The coyotes are still there, but they don't respond to sounds.

I've tried over around Bonita, but I've not found enough brush to hide a quarter behind, let alone me and a vehicle.

The valley to the East would be nice, if it wasn't for a couple of pricks who think they own all of those millions of acres of public land and locked it all off.

I keep thinking about going West, but I've never done it. I guess I'm going to just have to break out the maps and go.

Posted by JoeF (Member # 228) on January 23, 2006, 05:36 AM:

2 stands, 1 coyote, and I think that was a fluke. Everything here - grass, weeds, trees, is covered with about 1/8" of ice.
The slightest breeze creates a crunching/tinkling sound that drowns out all other sounds.
The one I killed popped out of cover before I could get the remote back to my knee. I had to have set up right on top of him. Well, not exactly a fluke, I had it planned that way... trust me! [Big Grin]

I quit while I was ahead, anywhere else I would have had to walk in and I don't think there would have been anything left within a mile after the racket I made getting there.

If this stuff would stick around for a couple of days and then melt a guy ought to be out hunting. It'd probably be better than the first 40 degree day after a 10 day stretch of sub-zero weather.

Jackrabbit sound. Unpressured coyotes.

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on January 23, 2006, 05:55 AM:

Bill,
APC-- 100 pts.
XPCI--60 pts.
SAWC--40 pts
PVCI--20 pts.

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on January 23, 2006, 06:01 AM:

Tim, remind me of which Foxpro you have, so I know which black box to send with the CD.

I got out Saturday, for the first time in almost two months. Made six stands. This female came in exactly 35 seconds into the first stand of the morning, using the good old Utah Jack sound.

Second to the last stand of the day, I was able to kill this big old boy. He stretched my scale to 40 lb's even. A Big Coyote for our neck of the woods.

Spent 40 minutes on that stand exchanging insults with him using my Higgins howler. After he had been silent for five minutes, I fired up some pup distress on the Foxpro and he lit up again, only a lot closer this time and I was able to see him. He was dead very shortly afterward. Spent another 15 minutes exchanging insults with his widow, but she wouldn't show herself.

Just for grins, for anyone who might be really bored, here's a video clip of Tim killing the first one. We both used my .17 Predator, of course, and although Tim failed to get it on camera, the big one dropped just as cleanly as this one.

- DAA

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on January 23, 2006, 09:33 AM:

DAA,

That's some great video. There hasn't been a KS coyote come in like that for a long time. Had his tail up there pretty well for a while.

Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on January 23, 2006, 12:19 PM:

Damn Dave, He was dead before God got the news.

Posted by Bryan J (Member # 106) on January 23, 2006, 01:01 PM:

Thanks Dave! I’m on dial up and that clip was well worth the wait.

Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 23, 2006, 02:27 PM:

Coyote is right @ the top of the pic [center area].

Stalked in on this one. He was laying 1/2 mile out, [balled-up]. Sorry about the crappy pic[small viewfinder & old eyes]LOL!

Anyway, crawled to within 70'of him. He was still sleeping[here comes the sandman! LOL].
Right before I crank one off. Thought I'd make sure my muzzle cleared the last little rise.
Between him & I. Welllll, it "appeared so" [Roll Eyes]

Charlene's set-in for 600. So I had to do some crosshair adjusting. Aimed, KAWOOM!. Took the top of the rise off & made a crator under the coyote. Coyote flew a couple ft, straight up[I like that]. I guess I was off, a tad on my elevation, eh [Big Grin]

.

He flew right by me flat-out 20' away, never seen me. Oh well, had fun regardless.

Posted by Bill (Member # 49) on January 23, 2006, 03:17 PM:

Thanks Rich. It looks like the XPCI had and effect on the score. Congratulations to APC.

Bill

Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on January 23, 2006, 03:52 PM:

WOW, Dave! That video quality is awesome. You got right on that coyote. I wish getting on coyotes with a camera was as easy as with your scope. A good tripod and a super fluid head is just as important as the glass on your rifle. Great video! [Smile]

Do the old Foxpros have the capability of utilizing the Utah Jack? Some guy's baby girl gave me one a few years ago! [Big Grin]

Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on January 23, 2006, 05:13 PM:

Dave, great video and pics thanks for sharing. 40 lbs! thats a big chunk of coyote. You ever killed one bigger?

Loco, I have the older FP and have DAA's "Utah Jack" on mine. FP can put the sound on for you. Big handshake to you Loco on the new addition to the family! I hope the wife is doing well.

I used the Utah Jack to kill a coyote yesterday. The first coyote came into the bulb squeaker. I spotted it while walking from the first stand to the second and I had to quickly hunker down and call from a not so good spot and luckily everything worked out. The second one several stands later came into the Utah Jack. Both males. One was a pretty big guy that had to be around 30 lbs.

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on January 23, 2006, 05:55 PM:

Bill, they certainly did. Plus there were some other changes as well. Tyler and I hunted for APC this year and I understand that one team arrived after checkin deadline with six coyotes. Must have had a heck of a long drive.

Posted by DJ in AZ (Member # 276) on January 23, 2006, 06:04 PM:

Rich ,
What club is XPCI? Also congrats to ACP . Missed the hunt, had to work. It seems like nothing going right lately -- Last club hunt we had 3 coyote's and 2 fox and what do I do -- get the damn truck stuck at 5:30 Sunday night in a wash.(down to the axles) Didn't get out til 7:30 , 2 hrs from check-in. Well , we'll try to get em' with the handguns and muzzle loaders in Feb.

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on January 23, 2006, 06:52 PM:

Big congrats on the cute new critter there Danny! Not sure if your Foxpro can use the black box to change sounds or not. Open it up and look under the battery tray. If there's a loose small 4 wire pigtail, then it will. Otherwise, you'll have to send it in to Foxpro to get the sounds changed.

Lonny, that is the second biggest one I've killed and weighed. A couple others I can think of "might" have been close, but did not weigh them so can't say for sure. The one in the foreground in the picture below is definitely the biggest I've ever got though. He weighed 44 lb's on the same scale. Killed him last year with my .17 Mach IV.

- DAA

Posted by Doggitter (Member # 489) on January 23, 2006, 07:05 PM:

Since you asked...
I went out this weekend and got five, all one shot from the .17 Rem, all but one DRT and it made it 25 yards, 3 dogs, 2 bitches, and ... my first and second ever doubles in 20-25 years of calling! My best for a weekend before was 3. Had the Airdale and Healer help out, and glad I did.

Posted by brad h (Member # 57) on January 23, 2006, 07:09 PM:

Two on Friday and three more on Sunday. First time I've ever used electronic vocalizations.

Sunday's three.

Posted by Bill (Member # 49) on January 23, 2006, 07:25 PM:

Rich I talked with our Huntmaster and he had 3 coyotes but didn't go to the check in. Sounds like the PVC guys really had a bad day, they have overwhelmed the other clubs with many more teams in the past.

Bill

Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on January 23, 2006, 07:32 PM:

Brad;

You sure have pretty coyotes up there! Fat and furry,
Daves, look just as nice.....Im envious.

Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on January 23, 2006, 08:56 PM:

Very nice trio of healthy looking coyotes Brad. Were you using vocalizations you recorded onto the e-call or sounds already on the caller?

Posted by brad h (Member # 57) on January 23, 2006, 09:28 PM:

These were big coyotes. And much nicer than ones we've shot in the past at this time of year.

The sounds came with the caller, Lonny. The three in particular that I used most were the illustrious WT female howls. The less agressive ones.

All the howls seemed kinda dominant but they deserved a shot and got the job done none the less. It was fun and interesting watching some of those pairs come from well over a mile away. It gives a good idea of what might go on during the stands when you can't see that far.

Brad

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on January 24, 2006, 06:16 AM:

Wow Dave great. Think what you could have done with a grown-up's gun. lol

Brad, did you use a WT?

Bill, PVCI still overwhelmed the other clubs with more teams. Two of the teams took one coyote each.

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on January 24, 2006, 09:09 AM:

Rich,

Do those coyotes of Brad's look familiar? Note the slight rufus over the top of the muzzles, the white margins around the posterior ears with rufus interiors. Looks to me like Brad has been calling around those Kansas feedlots again. [Wink]

Posted by Yellerdog (Member # 356) on January 24, 2006, 10:00 AM:

I shot this double on the Jan. 15th.
The male tipped the scales at 46 pounds.
Nasty stinkin' old coyote with half his teeth missing or broken and one side of his upper lip missing.
I haven't been out a lot, but this months off to a slow start other than these two. Called in coyotes on a couple of other stands but we failed to close the deal. [Mad]

The male

Both of them

Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on January 24, 2006, 10:22 AM:

I was down and out with my wisdom teeth for the first week of the month but I've picked it up since then... Since Jan 6th

Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on January 24, 2006, 10:40 AM:

Hey JRB, nice mess of coyotes. I saw them on your site before it stopped letting me lurk. Now it's requesting a login? I take it you don't like lurkers? Kind of hard for someone new to your site to see if they want to join if they can't read the posts isn't it?

Oh, and smile man, you're supposed to be having fun. [Big Grin]

later,
scruffy

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on January 24, 2006, 10:41 AM:

January is T-shirt weather in Indiana? It's colder than that here.

Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on January 24, 2006, 11:24 AM:

Was 72° on January 9th here Rich... been the warmest winter I can remember. I think we've set four or five daily record highs and an average temperatur record as well. We have only had one snow this winter and it didn't last but a couple days... very hard to put up fur or process game in weather like this.

Scruffy, we have had issues with starving artists lurkers... nothing against the common man, I just get tired of seeing our original material and photos stolen and placed on other sites in a different context for their benefit. Membership seems to have increased rapidly since the lock, but I still wish we could open it up.

I tell ya what, I'll give you a membership for free... just fill out the registration form and you're in. [Wink]

Posted by MULE (Member # 63) on January 24, 2006, 11:32 AM:

Damn fine looking coyotes guys!

DAA..is that a snipe pod in your last photo or stix?

Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on January 24, 2006, 11:42 AM:

quote:
Scruffy, we have had issues with starving artists lurkers... nothing against the common man, I just get tired of seeing our original material and photos stolen and placed on other sites in a different context for their benefit.

And requiring a login has stopped the steeling of photos?

I would have thought the "starving artists" would just get a login and continue with the steeling.

I doubt I'll ever be a "groupee", but we'll see. I lurked on your sight just to see how you mid-easterns are doing, look at the pics, etc. I never really had anything to ask or to add.

Edit: forgot to answer the original question: things were rolling good for me towards the end of november. Since then I can count the number of stands in December on one hand the number of stands in January on the other, with a finger or two cut off. I've done 4 day time stands so far this month, 2 of them the wind switched to the worst possibly direction, 1 stand was perfect, but no takers, and one stand last friday while it was snowing, no takers. And I did one full moon night stand. For the month I've called 2 hawks and 2 owls and a handfull or so of crows (haven't been keeping count of the crows).

This saturday I hope to go out for a couple stands and then once February hits hopefully my time will open up a bit and I can get one or two stands in every week.

later,
scruffy

[ January 24, 2006, 11:52 AM: Message edited by: scruffy ]

Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on January 24, 2006, 11:51 AM:

Scruffy, you are a "Groupee" member right now. Leonards site, Predator Masters and most other large forums are run by Groupee Software. The next time these guys upgrade their "UBB" software they will become "Groupee" as well... it's a new name to an old company. We're just the new kid on the block and got stuck with the unique name first.

And on the lurkers, I know who to watch for... they won't be getting accounts. Anyways, you're welcome to visit anytime;

Posted by brad h (Member # 57) on January 24, 2006, 12:06 PM:

Rich,
We used a WT.

Lance,
I was thinking the same thing. This is the first group from here that I thought measured up to the pictures I've seen of coyotes from Nebraska and Kansas, which is odd considering the warm winter we've had.

Brad

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on January 24, 2006, 12:20 PM:

MULE, those are Verne Howey's shooting sticks. I like them better than anything else I've tried so far.

Rich, I'm working my way up slow to a grown up rifle [Smile]

. If I start using one, I'll have to keep a close eye on that .17P though. Since I let Tim start using it whenever I'm running the camera this year, he's quit using his old .243 completely. Although, he just aquired a pre '64 M70 in .264, which after I got done cleaning 40 years worth of dust out of it, looks to have a nearly pristine bore. We're both kind of anxious to get out and smack a couple with it [Smile]

.

- DAA

Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on January 24, 2006, 01:40 PM:

DAA

I assume Tim already knows this. If he's planning on shooting that .264 off sticks, tell him to hang on and watch out for the glasses.

Dennis

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on January 24, 2006, 02:12 PM:

DAA,

I'll be happy to hold onto that 17P of yours down here and keep it safe while you and Tim work out the bugs in his new rifle.

You won't have to worry about it getting any rust!

Tim

Posted by JeremyKS (Member # 736) on January 24, 2006, 03:23 PM:

Ive seen Verne Howey's shooting sticks before in some pics but never up close. Does the U cup rotate on top of the sticks or how does that work?

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on January 24, 2006, 05:22 PM:

Jeremy,

Yeah they do. And the legs are not attached to the yoke the rifle rests in. SO, you can extend them way to the sides of stand the setup up tall without altering the yoke any at all. Pretty good sets of sticks.

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on January 24, 2006, 07:29 PM:

We can't seem to coax any predators to show themselves in the warmth of day, so Matt and I have opted to string a little steel and pick up a few in the dark.

Matt did manage to cuff a nice little bobcat today.

Not very big, but in the words of the landowner, "kill a cat, save a covey." Hope to have some more pictures tomorrow.

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on January 25, 2006, 11:52 AM:

Good to see you guys posting pictures, tends to get folks pumped up. It's always good to see others having success.

Posted by albert (Member # 98) on January 25, 2006, 04:17 PM:

Try And post a couple of pics first attempt. Fingers crossed.

I think It work these where killed in mid nov.

[ January 25, 2006, 04:18 PM: Message edited by: albert ]

Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 25, 2006, 04:25 PM:

Nice mess of coyotes, there albert.
you guys, sure have plump ones up there [Cool]

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on January 25, 2006, 06:17 PM:

Those look better than my January coyotes, Albert.

I did get this critter this morning in a coyote set...

He was all smiles when I got there!

Oh, BTW, I actually called a coyote this morning and killed it. Nice little pale female. Starting to show some rub here in Kansas already, but she wasn't in estrus yet and was running alone best I could tell.

Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 26, 2006, 05:09 PM:

I think [ALL] the coyotes in my area, went To Canada [Big Grin]

. Last 2 days I drove over 140 miles spotting & made 3-callin sets = nada [Roll Eyes]

Sureeee, now that I have a grasp on those little dots, in my scope. They don't want to play with me, LOL!

Posted by brad h (Member # 57) on January 26, 2006, 06:04 PM:

That's a damn fine take, Albert.

Man, I sure like like the looks of those big Canadian coyotes. And November coyotes no less.

Brad

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on January 26, 2006, 06:30 PM:

Albert, can you guys hunt coyotes at night or from your truck? I'd love to be able to go up there and hunt them the way I hunt them down here. Cool pic, thanks.

Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on January 26, 2006, 06:36 PM:

I had three snared today, both females showed a little blood and all were rubbed. Nothing to skin. Cenny Burnell killed 14 with the airplane a couple days ago and he said most of the females were showing blood and rubbed.

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 26, 2006, 06:45 PM:

could someone post picture for me

Posted by albert (Member # 98) on January 26, 2006, 07:01 PM:

One coyote, Daylight hunting only. In some parts of Saskatchewan (maybe all) I know that your technique would be extremely effective. At least if it's anything like Leonards.

Here is some more from acouple of weeks ago

Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 26, 2006, 07:19 PM:

albert,

What has January's weather been up your way?

upper 30's-low 50's here[no snow]. Bites, the big pickle, for sure here.

Posted by brad h (Member # 57) on January 26, 2006, 08:05 PM:

For "TA17Rem" and some impressive .17 cal shooting.

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on January 27, 2006, 06:03 AM:

Welcome TA17, so they really do have fox and coyotes in Minn. lol Very nice.
Albert, what sounds do you pitch them on that WT? It's bringing them in by the truckload.

Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 27, 2006, 07:03 AM:

Have not been out west calling yet. All the yotes pictured above have been taken by hunt/stalk methods. I hunt with a crew about six guys, two guys put the sneak on, and the rest post at key locations. if the two guys doing the sneaking miss shot at yote then the blockers get a crack at them.We call it snipeing, been lucky most of my shots were at 100-450 yds. A member of crew usees a 243 ackley and has taken four in the 500-600 yd. range. At this moument i have taken 23 yotes, and as a crew we have a total of 73 yotes, and 5 fox.

Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 27, 2006, 07:25 AM:

TA17Rem,

I'm a spot/stalk hunter, myself. Alot of fun, when the snow is quiet, eh [Cool]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 27, 2006, 08:03 AM:

Welcome to the New Huntmasters, TA17Rem. Glad to have you on board.

Sorry about the delay.

Yes, Albert came down a couple years ago and we hunted Nevada, mostly night hunting. As I recall, it was January and unseasonably warm, and Albert wasn't very impressed with Nevada coyotes, compared to his?

I've been meaning to go up and hunt with him ever since.....judging by the recent "hog" mulie and his wolf pics, I think I have waited too long?

Good hunting. LB

Posted by albert (Member # 98) on January 27, 2006, 11:19 AM:

Weather is unusaully warm with only a couple of days below 0 F. Southern sask has no snow, were I live you can still drive backroads but there is snow on the ground. Eastern part of sask has about 18" of snow. As for sounds I just pretend that I am hand calling. Do the basics. Sound is down the list of things you need to do right in order to kill a coyote.(what do think of that statement?) I doesn't hurt to hand call over top of an electronic you know.

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on January 27, 2006, 03:25 PM:

CRYPTIC!

Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 27, 2006, 03:58 PM:

LOL! hmmmm, a code talker. [Cool]

I'm thinking, what he is saying is. Didn't matter what sound, as much as it did. Useing his handcall & e-caller @ the same time. [Big Grin]

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on January 27, 2006, 05:09 PM:

Yes Albert, you could say I hunt kinda like Leonard sometimes. I can understand why you were not to impressed with Nevada coyote hunting. I'm sure Leonard told you it has not always been that way.
Albert, I'm happy you're doing good. I've only been able to go hunting maybe 10 or 12 times since Oct of this last year. My goal was to match my age with dead coyotes this year.
I got about half the critters I needed then my truck got sick, I fixed it, it got sick again " lots of money". Then I got sick and sick again. I think the coyote Gods are after me, no pun intended. [Frown]

All these pictures guys are posting makes me feel better [Smile]

[ January 28, 2006, 06:03 AM: Message edited by: onecoyote ]

Posted by RedRabbit (Member # 796) on January 30, 2006, 11:11 PM:

Hello, all Im new to this forum, don't mean to be a lurk, but I been getting a feel for the forum and been searching around here to see what info I need to enhance my coyote hunting....going out in the AM to try my luck. Im glad I found the hardcore coyote addicts.

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on January 31, 2006, 04:22 AM:

Higgins is the only really hardcore coyote guy around here. Rumor has it, that he has actually been found sleeping with dead coyotes, trying to gain their knowledge.

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on January 31, 2006, 06:28 AM:

Osmosis doesn't work, even with the help of my friends, who will be remembered. [Big Grin]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 31, 2006, 09:54 AM:

Welcome to the New Huntmasters, redrabbit. Glad to have you on board.

Voluntarily sleeping over a four day dead coyote ranks right up there as one of the most impressive things Higgins has ever done. A legend in the making. They will be talking about it late at night, around the campfire, long after all of us have shed this mortal coil.

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Nahuatl (Member # 708) on February 01, 2006, 12:15 PM:

My team had some good action all through the weekend. Shot 4 missed more. All of it came during daylight with shotguns.

I somehow managed a double barrel double. Beretta choked Super Full and Full with 3.5 inch Hevi-Shot. The pair came to whines and pup distress, live coyote distress and the left circle dance. City's in the background.

But this shot below is one of the best memories of my season.

This is my novice/daughter/partner hunting in her first competitive hunt ever in Nov. '05. I called a pair of males and she got a true double with a .223. She bagged them both looking back at us with neck shots.

Finally, I'll end this with a pic from the club's December hunt when 15 guys were out. She took second with this cat.

The club's season is already over.

[ February 11, 2006, 10:50 AM: Message edited by: Nahuatl ]

Posted by pup (Member # 90) on February 01, 2006, 01:43 PM:

He walked a mile in to a stand with a "hot spot" on his foot. It was a productive stand, I luckily made a good shot, and he got it on film. I thought he was trying to get his money's worth out of those tennis shoes. [Wink]

, so on the way out I asked him why he was limping. He then told me that he had a cactus thorn that he had stepped on two days prior. I don't think I would of left the truck if it were me, and I wouldn't of let him if I had known. I offered to dig it out, but I don't think I fit his idea of a DR.

I am not for sure legend will even begin to encompass the story that will eventually unravel.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 01, 2006, 01:57 PM:

Hmmm? Is that who I think it is, on the right? Looks like old DJ.

edit: Gary, I'm sure that I have met your daughter several years ago. She's all grown up, now.

My own daughter is just this side of a Zen Buddhist, wouldn't think of harming a flea. [Roll Eyes]

Fortunately, my son and grandsons inherited the killer genes.

Good hunting. LB

[ February 01, 2006, 04:31 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by RedRabbit (Member # 796) on February 05, 2006, 02:24 PM:

Thanks for the welcome all, and its good to see your on the threads Rich. I read your article in Predator hunting magazine winter 05 I was impressed to see there is someone who goes the extra mile to find out about coyote behavior. I live in SE Idaho and know of INL the "SITE" where you conducted your research. Iam interested in those videos you mentioned in the article "Up Close and Personal" and "Ledgens and Masters of the Call". Gotta have em. How can I get them? I hope they'll shed some light on my coyote persuits, as coyotes have humbled me many times...... I have read some interesting threads here on the subject of coyote hunting. Sounds like there isnt to many guesses. BTW I dont think you have to sleep with dead animals Rich. LOL, but Ive seen pet dogs roll around on them, so maybe it would'nt be a bad idea to rub catfish chum on yourself to bring them in...LOL just kidding.

[ February 05, 2006, 02:31 PM: Message edited by: RedRabbit ]

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on February 05, 2006, 02:43 PM:

quote:
coyotes have humbled me many times......

Welcome to the clan of the kindered spirit, RedRabbit.

You don't think any of us would stoop so low as to hunt something easy, do you.

Posted by albert (Member # 98) on February 05, 2006, 08:42 PM:

Went out today (sunday) had some pretty good luck. First picture is of Robby dragging one in though maybe it would show a little of the country we where hunting.

Second Picture is of our tally. Their's ten in there some where.

Actually there is four peeled hides in the plastic bag. Robby was skinning as we shot them until he lost this knife.

Oops got them backwards.

[ February 05, 2006, 08:46 PM: Message edited by: albert ]

Posted by RedRabbit (Member # 796) on February 05, 2006, 10:04 PM:

Damn, thats awsome Albert! Id just be glad to get one of these mountain coyotes her in Idaho. Whudja do just have them runnin out of that thicket one after another or was that several stands? how many male vs females there?

Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on February 06, 2006, 08:36 AM:

Was in an informal bragging rights coyote and crow contest on Saturday. Our team got second place I believe (out of a dozen teams?) with one coyote (20 points) and one crow (1 point). The one crow put us ahead of a few teams that also had one coyote. The winning team had 2 coyotes. The wind was blowing 20-30 mph all day and the temps started the day at 12 and I think finally hit 30 at the end of the day.

My bronchitis didn't get any worse, but I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn... Couldn't hit a crow to save my life, couldn't hit the wounded coyote as it ran broadside to me out around 100 yards. I gave him him a full body length lead which was too much given I'm shooting a 3700fps 22-250 and not a 3000fps 223, the coyote was running uphill, had run a couple hundred yeards with his liver and a few guts hanging out, and at the last second turned to quarter away to a hole in the fence to a picked field. The shot flew infront of him and turned him and kept him in the grass and out of the harvested field so the blood trail was much easier to track so my shot wasn't all for not... We tracked him and found him laying dead facing his back trail a few hundred yards from where I shot at and turned him. I didn't have a second shot at him because once he turned and ran straight away he was blocked by a bunch of branches in a tree beside me... Oh well. I'm glad I survived it and didn't get any sicker. [Big Grin]

Here's the pic of the coyote and crow (over the coyote's underbelly hole) with a modified crow decoy behind the coyotes back (motion wing crow decoy "mounted" on the back of a stationary crow decoy). The coyote almost stepped on the shooter who was laying prone on a pond dam and then the coyote took off, the shooter's 55 grain hp 22-250 "texas heart shot" was a little low and sliced his underbelly open or splashed or something. I'm not sure what happened, I'm going to do some csi work because it just wasn't normal.

Anyway, it was a fun day!! Too cold and too windy for my poor health, but a fun day!

later,
scruffy

Posted by albert (Member # 98) on February 06, 2006, 10:24 AM:

RR made 16 stands and all ten were singles. only called in multiple coyotes three times. Made one bad stand selection so when three came in they where in and out so fast that we only got one. The other two stands never worked out to get the double. I'm a firm believer in the old saying "A bird in the hand....".

There were 7 females and 3 males most responses seemed to be on the slow side. In fact one I had all ready stood up to quit the stand. Fortunately it stood around long enough to get it's self killed. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.

[ February 06, 2006, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: albert ]

Posted by RedRabbit (Member # 796) on February 06, 2006, 10:14 PM:

I got one at about 4:00 pm Red desert and Hot Dog mouthpiece blown simutaneously wavering on the tips. I was just messing around with the cool sounds it was generating in my ear on and off for what seemed like 30 min and then she showed up. No picture, but it was a very pale, silvery female.. Hit her right in the chops...I was thinking "A bird in the hand also.....Sorry no pic.

[ February 06, 2006, 10:16 PM: Message edited by: RedRabbit ]

Posted by RedRabbit (Member # 796) on February 07, 2006, 08:59 AM:

What the hell is an "Estrus Chirp"? Ive never heard one. Is it anywhere close to a female invitation howl...

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on February 07, 2006, 11:34 AM:

That is an extremely high-pitched, short duration yipe or chirp sounding vocalization that the female issues to a male during the female solicitation behavior prior to mating. Varmit hunter aka Ronnie Robison gave it that name. We just called them female mating yipes before that.

Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on February 07, 2006, 08:32 PM:

.....Now is this "chirp" issued by the female, pre-coitus,or post penetration? Does it start out low, then reach a crescendo,or are the "chirps" furtive and shrill?
Are these "estrus chirps", solicited to an all ready present male? or does the female elicit these chirps as she "walks the wash" on her midnight sojourns?
Does it attract other males to the area in hopes of sinking the pink, or merely attract the voyeuristic, sub-alpha males to peek over the fence and watch?

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on February 07, 2006, 09:07 PM:

"Sinking the pink"? Vic, my Philistine friend, are you setting me up for another "penile peep" or are you truly expanding your horizons? [Smile]

Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on February 08, 2006, 05:41 AM:

Looks to an innocent bystander like an attempt to broaden your "horizons" Rich.....

Dont bite... [Wink]

Andy

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 08, 2006, 07:56 AM:

Don't challenge him, Vic. You already know he sleeps with dead coyotes to technicolor his cosmic dreams. If you toss around these provocative words and phrases and get him all fired up, who knows where it may lead? But, it won't be pretty.

Good hunting. LB

PS but seriously, Rich. Just answer the man's question.

Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on February 08, 2006, 10:39 AM:

Four more yesterday...

Higgins I talked to Merta this weekend about your trip to his place this month, I'm still looking forward to that cold one you promised me six months ago. [Wink]

Posted by RedRabbit (Member # 796) on February 08, 2006, 07:43 PM:

AZ, your killing me, that had me rollin... Geeezz! I just wanted to know if that was the same "chirps" that I heard on "The Tuth Calling All Coyotes W/ ***** Anderson"...You guys are crazy!

Posted by RedRabbit (Member # 796) on February 08, 2006, 07:47 PM:

Hey, whats the deal with not being able to say someones name?

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on February 08, 2006, 07:54 PM:

He's Probably one of those ****** O’***** ******* who live down on the *********** near ***** .

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 08, 2006, 10:29 PM:

No prob. Red. You can say anyone's name, unless it's a banned word. Heavens no, R andy Anderson ain't a banned word.

Tim, you are mistaken, dude. He ain't an ****** , and he don't live in ***** .

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on February 09, 2006, 03:16 AM:

My mistake,

I must have been thinking about Joe [Wink]

Posted by RedRabbit (Member # 796) on February 09, 2006, 08:59 AM:

Joe? Oh! never mind its none of my buisness.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 09, 2006, 09:29 AM:

Just a joke, dude. After you have been around a while, you will understand. Some of these guys have been on the boards for 5-10 years and probably that many different message boards. It's difficult to bring a new guy up to speed when you don't know everybody; takes time. If you have a lot of spare time you can read some of the back pages. One guy registered and said howdy....and he didn't make another post for three months, while he was reading the whole enchilada. Now, that's committment!

Good hunting. LB

Posted by RedRabbit (Member # 796) on February 09, 2006, 09:52 AM:

I know it an inside deal. I was just joking too. I get to looking around on some of these post and get caught up on some of the most mundane topics. I can only read so much of that, but some of its informative.

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on February 10, 2006, 03:28 PM:

Vic said
....Now is this "chirp" issued by the female, pre-coitus,or post penetration? Does it start out low, then reach a crescendo,or are the "chirps" furtive and shrill?
Are these "estrus chirps", solicited to an all ready present male? or does the female elicit these chirps as she "walks the wash" on her midnight sojourns?
Does it attract other males to the area in hopes of sinking the pink, or merely attract the voyeuristic, sub-alpha males to peek over the fence and watch?
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Leonard said
just answer the man's question
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Vic, since the coyote is monestrus and the female is receptive for only a few days of the year the males produce sperm and are fertile only about four months of the year. Spermatogenesis usually begins in Oct. or early Nov.
The males androgen and testosterone levels are some times not high enough in Feb to be interested in breeding when the female is receptive. The females have evolved a "female solicitation behavior" designed to arouse the male at that time. This includes pawing at his flanks, sometimes to the extent of wearing oval bald patches there, and an enticing play behavior that looks exactly like a puppy attempting to solicit play from an adult coyote. The female leaps back and forth in front of the male, sometimes with her head and chest on the ground and her rump and tail up high,then bounds away while issuing very high pitched excited yipes or chirps, if you will. Obviously these would be mated pairs.
Some callers that I have been corresponding with have been having luck bringing coyotes in with that call when nothing else has worked for them.
Gary, JD, Brent, Jim ???? Anyone want to share your experiences with this vocalization?

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 10, 2006, 03:42 PM:

Good reply. So, what are you using to mimic the chirp?

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on February 10, 2006, 03:51 PM:

So where can I buy one of these post penetration chirp calls [Confused]

Does R. Anderson have them out yet? [Wink]

[ February 10, 2006, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: onecoyote ]

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on February 10, 2006, 04:07 PM:

Danny and Leonard, actually Lohman produces the "She Howler" that Ronnie designed for that very purpose. I field tested Ronnie's prototype for Lohman two or three years ago and videoed several coyotes that I called in with it. Lohman provides that video with each howler that they sell. I haven't seen it yet. They never provided me with a copy or a production howler or even a kiss my --- ooops sorry Ronnie. Jeremy said he just bought one and enjoyed the video. I don't know how much they used.

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on February 10, 2006, 04:09 PM:

BTW Danny they are PRE-penetration chirps. No need
to solicit something that already happened, is it? [Smile]

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on February 10, 2006, 04:13 PM:

Danny,

The post penetration sounds just like a twist off cap and a bic lighter. [Wink]

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on February 10, 2006, 04:16 PM:

Very, very good Tim. I'm going to Globe tomorrow. Buy you a beer?

Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on February 10, 2006, 04:25 PM:

I have one of them She Howler prototypes, and also got no "instructions".

With Ronnie's permission I made a She Howler Replica, that reportedly made the esterous chirp, without ever knowing what the sound was.

Danny made a brief mention that someone "took" that idea and is trying to make money off of it. I just hope I wasn't involved, by being ripped off too.

Don't feel bad Rich, Danny told me to kiss his ass, and it didn't feel good at all. You're not missing out on anything.

But if it makes you feel better what the heck... kiss my ass. [Smile]

Krusty

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 10, 2006, 04:28 PM:

only a week and you are starting to sound a little fruity?

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 10, 2006, 04:28 PM:

Just kidding....how do you like your new ride? [Smile]

Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on February 10, 2006, 05:57 PM:

I've used the female chirps during the last two winters, about mid. Feb. to March is when I started using them, as my ace in the hole sound that I hadn't used all year. I had success with the sound, all by itself. The first day I used the sound two years ago, all I took out calling was a horn howler and that's the only sound I did! In three sets, I called in and killed two females. I saw no other coyotes on those three sets, coming or otherwise. So I've wondered ever since, were these females coming into the set looking for a possible male with another female?
Last year, I used the sound again in late Feb., but not by itself. I also used some distress after several minutes of the female distress. and I called in and killed a mix of male and female. None of them came to the call charging, which wasn't a surprise! But they came in none the less!
I'll be using the sound this weekend again, although the ranch we are going to hunt has been called very little, so I'm told. We'll also be relying on distress sounds as well!! We'll see!
It's very easy to go from the female chirp to pup distress, if ya don't really listen to yourself!

Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on February 10, 2006, 07:25 PM:

As with all coyote vocalizations, the resident coyotes will approach to investigate the new coyote, regardless of sex. Attributing human logic to a coyotes response is usually a mistake. One of my favorite posts from PM was from the fellow who
"blew a female invitational howl and a female came in to it. Was this coyote a lesbian?"

Posted by keekee (Member # 465) on February 10, 2006, 07:48 PM:

One of my favorite posts from PM was from the fellow who
"blew a female invitational howl and a female came in to it. Was this coyote a lesbian?"

LOL....Now thats funny!

We been useing the chirps some. And have called coyotes while useing it. I use a criter call standard and also my howler to get the sounds.

When I use the chirps, I tend to start the stand with them, then switch over to howls and puppy destress as the stand goes on. We have had coyotes show up to just the chips. Most of the time the go strait down wind. We havent had no hard chargers. And they have been a mix of male and female coyotes responding.

Brent

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on February 10, 2006, 07:58 PM:

"So where can I buy one of these post penetration chirp calls Does R. Anderson have them out yet?"
--------------
Danny,
You mean R. PRIMOS right?

Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on February 10, 2006, 08:55 PM:

Rich,

I tried to make a thread asking about the fur sale, but you were the only one to respond ( And I thought you were just yanking my chain ) Before Joyce, Judy, Nancy and Sue decided to turn the thread into some kind of Artsy Fartsy Estrogen thread. [Eek!]

It was simply out of self preservation that I went out and bought an 8# jug of H50BMG powder and two boxes of 210 grain Bergers. I'm going to the 1K match at Three Points in the morning.

If I can bring home wood, I'll buy the beer and mail you one!

Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on February 11, 2006, 09:42 PM:

Rich, I'm not sure anymore buddy. All I tried to do was ask where I could find one of these calls or sounds.
R. A. seems to always be the guy the has the new sounds. To be honest, I'm not sure I belong in this forum anymore.
You ask an honest question and somehow it turns against you. I'm about at the end of my rope.

Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on February 11, 2006, 10:12 PM:

Danny...

I know R A has a call in his lineup called the "hotdog"? Im sure it has a counterpart....most likely something along the line of the "coyote camel toe"? to elicit those furtive yet sensual estrus chirps?

Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on February 11, 2006, 10:53 PM:

Danny,

I'll throw you some rope, brother.

You got a straight answer once already. [Wink]

Lohman makes (and markets) a call named "The She Howler", it was prototyped by Ronnie Robison (aka Varmint Hunter).
You can buy one of the production calls from allpredatorcalls.com and it will come with an instructional video.

The call is an open reed call, with a short quick radius toneboard, and a fairly stiff reed.

I can't explain what the sound is, I've never heard it.

Krusty

Posted by RedRabbit (Member # 796) on February 12, 2006, 03:57 AM:

onecoyote, Im not sure of the sound and neither does RA, as he speculates in the Mastering The Arts video, but they show a male chasing a female and she is making some kind of chirp, she has her tail between her legs and running around as the male tries to what appears mount her, so I dont really know how receptive she is, but RA points out she may be a bit intimdated buy his size. Im ony guessing that it is an "estrus chirp" she maybe by insinct trying to get the male worked up, as Rich has pointed out incidentally. RA demonstrates this chirp on the HD mouthpiece, it isnt hard to reproduce Ive done it many times, but I dont know if it takes a certain pitch to provoke the male. I been using it since the beginning of Febuary but no luck yet. I would add that I may have to get closer to coyotes that are breeding in their territories to atleast get them to break away from such an activity. Dont know how much they honor their bond, if you catch my drift. I suppose dogs being dogs you might elicit a responce by mere jealousy, or curiosity. Now here is something I stumbled onto, I was doing those chirps, then waited awhile then blew simultaneously on the RD and HD mouthpieces on the tip waverinng and dying off and just kept repeating that sound, now if you ever wittnessed dogs stuck together ie "dognotted" this might be what I possibly imitated. I dont know, but last week I dropped one as she came over the ridge not long after doing this sound.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 12, 2006, 08:46 AM:

Danny, I just reviewed these six pages and I'll be darned if I can see where you have been attacked, or called names or laughed at?

I will admit that some people appear to scan much of the content, forget who wrote it and respond without properly addressing a specific individual. We used to call it "comprehension" back in the old days?

So, maybe there is some of that going on; but don't let these young whipper snappers run you off, Gabby. We need more than one grizzled veteran.....the other being Higgins, of course. [Smile]

Good hunting. LB

Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on February 12, 2006, 08:51 AM:

I did the same LB. Thought maybe it was another inside thing or something..... [Wink]

Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on February 12, 2006, 10:09 AM:

I think I found it... it was my mistake.

quote:
Danny made a brief mention that someone "took" that idea and is trying to make money off of it. I just hope I wasn't involved, by being ripped off too.

Don't feel bad Rich, Danny told me to kiss his ass, and it didn't feel good at all. You're not missing out on anything.

Then I offered to let Rich kiss my ass, which Danny might have mistakely thought I was offering him.

THIS IS A TYPO: I meant to say Ronnie, and somehow I typed Danny.

It was so easy to miss, that not only did I miss it in my spell check/re-read, but some of you other guys missed it too.

My most sincere apologies. My bad. [Frown]

Krusty

P.S. Ronnie, I have called a few times (and left two messages) but can't get through, please call me collect.

[ February 12, 2006, 10:12 AM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ]

Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on February 12, 2006, 01:00 PM:

Az-Hunter,
Danny meant camel toads man.

Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on February 16, 2006, 12:48 PM:

You can get the She Howler from All predator Calls. I made the reed short and thick so you can pop the chirps from the diaphragm. I use a lone howl and the four to five chirps with no break, Then repeat about ever minute. You should sound like a forty pound bird making four to five loud chirps in succession, no breaks or pauses.

[ February 16, 2006, 02:08 PM: Message edited by: varmit hunter ]

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