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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 30, 2006, 08:27 PM:
Matt called me tonight to see what I was up to. I suggested we go out and locate a few coyotes. He's never done that, and I generally don't have a lot of success here with it like we do further west, but what the ...
On the way out, he tells me that his former hunting partner tells him that howling doesn't work and he knows a good caller that will back him up on it. I just shrugged and told him that his opinion was costing him coyotes. LOL
Anyway, the first place we tried we got a pack we know well to sound off about four or five minutes after I howled. Matt and I did a group yip howl - Matt's first attempt at howling - and we had them all riled up for about ten minutes.
Had a large pack - probably 6+ coyotes - answered us two stops later. And our next stop produced a single lower sounding coyote ripping into us from about 150 yards away.
Three of the five stops produced good responses and it's a good start to scouting our calling line for the upcoming season. And Matt thought that talking back and forth with them was pretty awesome. I always think it is, too.
[ September 30, 2006, 08:28 PM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]
Posted by brad h (Member # 57) on September 30, 2006, 09:13 PM:
I always enjoyed doing that. Driving down a long road on a calm dark night stoping every few miles and letting loose a few howls just to fire'em up and listen to the groups talk.
A couple of times I could get one group going that would start a chain reaction, then in a matter of seconds it seemed like the whole county came alive with howls. A nearby agitated coyote was good for a 1/2 hour conversation sometimes.
When I first started using a howler, that was the first and primary confidence builder in using that type of call. I thought I sucked at it, but the coyotes sounded off just the same.
You and Matt ought to be in for a good season, Lance by the numbers of the responses you got. I'll bet his opinion has changed?
Brad
[ September 30, 2006, 09:14 PM: Message edited by: brad h ]
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on October 01, 2006, 07:26 AM:
His opinion was forged in steel last season when we smoked anyone and everyone in the area in calling responses, so that wasn't an issue. I enjoy both getting them to respond back, and seeing the look of surprise on the faces of the guys that are with me for the first time locating. They always have a big grin on their faces. LOL
I had hoped to trigger a chain reaction like you mentioned, but it didn't happen. Pretty much single packs answering us back from each of the three locations we had hits. Matt had tried it before without any luck, and he was happy to learn that you have to wait around a bit to get a response sometimes. Most guys howl, wait a minute, maybe two, then move on down the road. Big mistake.
We'll be running on about 65-70,000 acres it looks like this season and I told Matt that it would behoove us to locate as many packs as we can now so we know where to focus our efforts in about 3-4 weeks when we start.
Posted by brad h (Member # 57) on October 01, 2006, 07:42 AM:
They like to think about it before answering sometimes.
I found that out by accident, but was glad I did.
Brad
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on October 01, 2006, 09:44 AM:
One of the primary functions of the group yip-howl is passive territorial defense. It announces the presence of a resident pack.
Very important, because it greatly reduces the number of physical intrusions by other coyotes. If they are seperated they will all converge on an area in which they want to announce location and they may take a little time to mark every other bush on the way. Sometimes resident coyotes will take as much as 15 minutes to assemble in an area in which they wish to announce.
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