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Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on October 05, 2006, 11:28 AM:
In the 1930's the wolf was wiped out in the State of CO. But recently, there have been sightings of Mexican gray wolves (from AZ) in the south, and Canadian gray wolves (from Yellowstone) in the north.
In 1975 the Grizzly bear was put on the endangered species list. In 1979 the last known Griz (in CO) was killed in the San Juan Mtns, in southern CO. Three weeks ago, the DOW reported 3 grizzly's were sighted in central CO in the Sawatch Mtns, SE of Aspen, CO.
[ October 05, 2006, 11:31 AM: Message edited by: NASA ]
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on October 05, 2006, 04:13 PM:
Both of those facts are excellent news and make me quite happy.
Texas was wiped clean of bears (grizzlies by the 1890's and blackies by the 1950's if memory serves me right). We now have populations of black bears coming in from Mexico, Louisiana and Arkansas.
The red wolf, which is now believed to be extinct, was hunted and supposedly bred out (coyotes) of existance by the 1930's.
Doubtful it would ever happen, and I know plenty who would curse my name for even thinking it, but I'd love to see wolves establish a viable population here as well.
[ October 05, 2006, 04:15 PM: Message edited by: The Outdoor Tripp ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 05, 2006, 04:37 PM:
Well, I don't agree, but wouldn't curse you for your views. LB
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on October 05, 2006, 04:45 PM:
I'm not talking wolves brought in at taxpayer's expense or in huge numbers. I'd love to hunt, fish or camp knowing there was the off-chance I might get a glimpse of one of the creatures.
I've been within 15 feet of a blonde wolf while hunting in SE Alaska - one of the most memorable experiences of my life.
Bring 'em on.
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on October 05, 2006, 05:47 PM:
Stockmen can barely tolerate coyotes as it is. Wolves would be their worst nightmare.
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on October 05, 2006, 05:50 PM:
They stay awake they won't have a problem. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on October 05, 2006, 08:15 PM:
Deer and elk hunters worst nightmare too. And taxpayers.
A pox on the damn wolves...
Where do you figure the grizzlies came from though?
- DAA
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on October 05, 2006, 08:51 PM:
Officially, they were not relocated. But there are a lot of tree spikers and bunny huggers in CO so it's not beyond the realm of possiblity. On the other hand, the one killed in '79 was the last sighted griz until last month. There could have been a few left that were in remote areas. The Rockies have seen a lot of development since 1979. More people up there now than ever before, so chances of a sighting are higher. Just my opinion.
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on October 06, 2006, 02:16 PM:
Tripp, I would be perfectly happy to ship you every wolf in Wyoming if it were possible. Be careful what you wish for! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Our elk, bighorn sheep, and moose herds in the western part of the state are being wiped out as we speak. Hunters, ranchers and outfitters are losing out at a phenominal rate. There is no way that the tourism generated by wolves will make up for the lost hunting and ranching revenues. We didn't want them when they came and we still don't.
Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on October 06, 2006, 05:27 PM:
Tripp,if you ever had one growling ten or fifteen yards behind you in thick cover,it would be something you would never soon forget or want to hear again.My uncle ended up shooting the wolf.It left me and worked its way down to where he sat with a 300 mag.For a female,she was big!It took me a while to get up enough nerve to go back out in the bush by myself again.I don't like them and i don't trust the damn things.
[ October 06, 2006, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: Melvin ]
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