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Topic: Full moon and your success rate
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TRnCO
FUTURE HALL OF FAMER
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posted December 05, 2006 04:47 PM
Alright, so does your day time calling success rate suffer during the full moon? And if not, do you use different tactics or the same o same o?
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted December 05, 2006 04:50 PM
This time, it did. Boy, the hunting here just sucks right now.
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stevecriner
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posted December 05, 2006 04:52 PM
Lance, Im telling you what. Me and Rshaw worked our ass off for the two we got saturday. We seen 7 in 9 stands but for the conditions and the spots we hit you think we would of seen more. Ive made 7 stands since saturday with nothing. I think its the moon surely? Nice cold wheather with snow and no coyotes....
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted December 05, 2006 06:44 PM
I've spoken with ppl across the state and east as far as IN this week and daytime calling is a bust everywhere. It will get better, but it's amazing how when it goes south, it goes south everywhere at the same time.
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Andy L
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posted December 05, 2006 06:52 PM
I was ashamed to say anything. It has sucked here big time. I was pumped too. I guess things suck all over the midwest....
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted December 05, 2006 07:30 PM
I guess it's time to invite Leonard back to Kansas. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Leonard
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posted December 05, 2006 08:06 PM
Yeah, right! It was miserable at the World Hunt for a lot of us PAK MEN, right Higgins?
I don't know why, but we hunted our asses off and it didn't do any good?
Of course, I have always been against full (or near full) conditions, day or night.
I can't prove anything, but I do know why I like to hunt on a new moon. Simple. I seem to do better.
Good hunting. LB
edit: Congrats, Lance! I just noticed your elite status!
[ December 05, 2006, 08:07 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted December 06, 2006 04:28 AM
Thank you, Leonard. You need to update yours.
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Tim Behle
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posted December 06, 2006 05:06 AM
Daylight calling during a full moon has always sucked for me.
But some of the best night hunting I've ever had was under a full moon with snow on the ground. It seemed as every predator was out and running to fill his belly.
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Andy L
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posted December 06, 2006 05:15 AM
I made a couple stands the other night on the snow. Nothing. Just like during the day. I think maybe we got a bit much snow right now. I know its a bitch to get around in and the rabbits arent out much either. We got 2+" of ice and 14-16" of snow on top of it. Its a bitch. I was excited about the full moon, it looks like daylight, shadows and all, at midnight. But damned if I could call anything.
Of course, I only made a couple stands. Maybe should have kept going. Maybe later on would have been better?
One of my favorite times to call is coming up. This snows starting to melt, a little, and its going to warm up. Thats normally when I do very well.
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TRnCO
FUTURE HALL OF FAMER
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posted December 06, 2006 05:17 AM
Well, I'm glad you pampass ass's all have troubles with the full moon too.
I had gone out last Friday, I've been looking for some new honey hole on the eastern plains. Well, I did 6 stands on Friday and saw nothing. Then finally on the 7th stand of the day, I had one show itself, but no shot. Then on the 8th through the 12th stands, I called in 7, bumped 4 others. SO I thought I had finally found a higher density coyote area.
What confussed me was that I went back on Sunday to the same area, and only saw two, and they weren't coming to the call. Called all day, and not one to show for it!
Seemed like about the same moon phase, very similar weather, but total opposite results.
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varmit hunter
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posted December 06, 2006 12:05 PM
One of the best hunts I was ever on was during the full moon. Three of us killed 28 in 2 1/2 days. Off course it was the Texas Panhandle where they carry the Kamikaze gene.
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Rich
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posted December 06, 2006 12:56 PM
Well there was this one full moon night in back seat of my 1947 Plymouth-----Oh, you mean coyote hunting? never mind. ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif)
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Lungbuster
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posted December 06, 2006 02:01 PM
How has your luck been hunting at night with no snow? I ussually stay home in these conditions..... just wondering about everyone else?
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Kokopelli
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posted December 07, 2006 03:54 PM
I love to blame a day of poor calling on the full moon, and do it often; however.....the best day that I have ever had was during a full moon. Go figure.
While callers will blame the full moon for poor success because the coyotes move all night, the trappers generally favor the new moon as when the most movement occures. Makes for great campfire discussions.
What I have to wonder is; maybe it's not the effect that the moon has on the coyote, but the effect that the moon has on the local prey species.
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Tim Behle
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posted December 07, 2006 04:51 PM
Kokopelli,
I started to make that same comparative statement in my post, but left it out.
My theory is the trapping picks up on a new moon, because the coyote has to move slower and rely on his nose more during the new moon nights. Therefore he is more prone to picking up the scents of the lure.
I think the daytime calling is better at this time, because the coyote didn't get his belly filled over night in the dark, and is out hunting later into the day.
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Kokopelli
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posted December 08, 2006 12:47 AM
Tim,
Your theory makes sense to me. If a coyote feeds on a full moon night it wouldn't be as likely to respond the next day. If the same coyote moves all night on a new moon and doesn't successfully feed (or get caught) it should be hungry come sunrise and answer to calling.
However; this brings us to the next question, which is....How long does a coyote's belly stay 'full' after feeding? If our coyote feeds at night during a full moon and doesn't respond well to calls the next morning, wouldn't it be at least starting to get pretty hungry by that afternoon?? Calling should be better during the afternoons of the full moon.
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Rich Higgins
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posted December 08, 2006 07:02 AM
Kokopelli and Tim. How do we explain calling coyotes off of a deadpile or a fresh carcass? I have had coyotes come running to the call still covered with "soup" from being inside the carcass. We have called the same areas during a full moon with no takers. Two weeks later they are running to the calls again.
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Leonard
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posted December 08, 2006 07:45 AM
Okay, first, hunting at night, under a full moon is very difficult, but mostly because the coyotes can see you real good. Are they more active during that phase or not, or at least hunting more, I can't say, for sure?
Now, exactly why daytime hunting during a full moon phase is poor, that's a good question. Some people don't even agree that it is more difficult hunting. Well, that's fine, but I happen to think the moon has an influence, and at times it is negative and other times it has a more positive effect.
I assure all of you, night hunting under a dark moon is better hunting. Not because they are out and more active, but because they can't see you, as well as when there is a moon. Actually, as a guess, I think they are probably a little more active during those times when there is a bright moon, and they can see their quarry a little better. It just seems to make more sense, but it is something that doesn't matter to anything or anyone other than hunters on message boards. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Good hunting. LB
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foxcaller53
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posted December 08, 2006 08:26 AM
Here in PA, I hunt fox 100% at night. I can tell you that a full moon is my enemy. The fox are spookier when coming to my calls and I actaully have to set up in a different fashion as not to be seen........in comparison to a new moon.
A new moon is definitely my friend. Easier to set up and fox seem to respond better. It's also much easier to see eyes with your lights under a new moon. Was out one night several weeks ago and called in 11 reds and shot 5. There was no moon that night, but right now, it's harder due to the bright moon.
Well, there you have it...my 2-cents.
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Kokopelli
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posted December 08, 2006 08:47 AM
Rich Higgens;
I explain it all with the following example,
Women will be women.
Cats will do as they please.
Coyotes will adapt & survive.
There's not a damn thing that men can do about any of it except come up with theorys to make ourselves seem wise.
That should be clear as mud. (Insert one of those smiley things)
[ December 08, 2006, 08:59 AM: Message edited by: Kokopelli ]
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Kokopelli
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posted December 09, 2006 06:06 AM
Rich, that last post may have come across as a bit more acerbic than I intended. To much EverClear in the Eggnog perhaps. The truth is that I have no idea why coyotes will do some of the things that they do, like being called off of a carcass. Makes about as much sense as someone leaving a steakhouse 'cause they smell french fries next door. I'm just glad that coyotes continue to mystify us. It keeps us humble & it's more fun when we succeed.
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JoeF
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posted December 09, 2006 06:45 AM
What do they call animals like coyotes and deer that are active to some degree both night and day - diurnal?
Whatever, with a full moon and moderate weather (>40-ish) I try to satisfy some other habit because the daytime will typically be dead. I believe the effect is less certain in real cold weather.
In the days before legal lights I used to drool over the idea of snow cover and a full moon. Now I dread them.
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Rich Higgins
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posted December 09, 2006 07:56 AM
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There's not a damn thing that men can do about any of it except come up with theorys to make ourselves seem wise.
I didn't think your post was ascerbic at all and I agree with it completely.Apparently I'm not too concerned about seeming wise with some of my theories. I explained one such to Major Boddiker at the campout and he graciously replied "Well that is interesting."
Leonard, however turned to someone and said "That was off the wall."
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Leonard
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posted December 09, 2006 08:00 AM
I work on my diplomacy every day. Thanks for pointing out that it still needs a little polishing.
Good hunting. LB
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