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Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on December 18, 2006, 07:46 PM:
How long do you wait after a brushfire, before calling an area for coyotes?
Is it worth going in that next winter?
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on December 18, 2006, 08:05 PM:
I'd wait at least a day, till the rabbits,and other rodents cool down enough to be eaten:)
Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on December 19, 2006, 06:06 AM:
now that was good.......
Posted by bowjunkie (Member # 887) on December 19, 2006, 06:14 AM:
roflmao now thats funny right there
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on December 19, 2006, 07:10 AM:
Tim,
I'm no expert on the subject but here is what I think would occur logically:
Green shoots (depending on the time of year of the fire, and for the sake of argument will assume the fire occurred in summer) should come up that next spring. I would imagine that rabbits and rodents would follow the following spring.
I'd think unless you were hunting burn area edge, that calling wouldn't be productive for 18 mos following a fire that burned a large area.
Anyone have any first-hand knowledge or other theories?
[ December 19, 2006, 07:26 AM: Message edited by: The Outdoor Tripp ]
Posted by onecoyote (Member # 129) on December 19, 2006, 07:13 AM:
Yeah that's funny, but just about right. I've taken predators in fresh burn off areas, I'm talking a matter of a few weeks after the fire.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on December 19, 2006, 08:48 AM:
Actually Vic is right. Studies have shown that seeds survive the heat of fire and attract rodents and birds which attract predators, and this begins while the area is still smoldering.
Posted by Nahuatl (Member # 708) on December 19, 2006, 09:04 AM:
Three years ago the Crown Valley Complex Fire burned west to east and went "by" my home. It burned 12,000 acres in two days in a mile-wide swathe far enough south to take out my address sign at the asphalt road, but the fire didn't make it up the driveway to the house.
I've watched the changes and hunted regularly in both the burn and the remaining forest bordering it since the fire.
The bears walked through the ash at night almost before it cooled. I found bear tracks even before the telephone lineman replaced all the burned poles. The coyotes walked through at night too, but daylight hunting was a total bust for more than a year. There just wasn't enough cover. Hunting the edges, the thick stuff butting up against the burn wasn't much better. Once in a while I could get one to stick his nose out for a shot but most of the time they didn't come out. However, by the second year, the brush had grown 2-4 feet tall again, and hunting in the burn was ok. I set up in the old burn at least once a month now and look back into the brush line towards my driveway. I manage a coyote or two most times out. I hunt in many locations along the burn area and get busted a lot. The area is still so open, even after three years that the coyotes see me coming, bark at the calls, but keep their distance.
Night hunting in a burn is a different story. I do it whenever I can. Where no man could walk, there is now open ground, great visibility, and plenty of coyotes apparently chasing rabbits in the dark very willing to show eyes in the spotlight. Night hunting improves 1000%.
The hunting in the brush next to the burn is definitely better, but here there is very little access and visibility. The open area acts as a boundary in daylight and the rabbits and quail population in those areas must have doubled, but that thick stuff is almost impossible to hunt.
Posted by John (Member # 52) on December 19, 2006, 08:02 PM:
We had 5000 acres burn during the wild fires that went through Childress county Tx last year. Within a week, cattle were back in the area grazing and coyote,bobcat and a few quail were also seen. All during daylight hours.
Following a light rain on that area, the new grass seemed as though it would grow an inch a day.
While the coyote/bobcats were tough to call out from cover during daylight, they were not at all shy at night and would aggressively "come to the call". ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
We also found that, while night calling in a burned area provides an unbelievable amount unobstructed vision, it also requires a very bright light and a good hot shower B4 you hit the sack. That soot tracks in on everything and is a bitch to get off.
By the way guys. If your going to have to handle the kills that you harvest out of a burn area with out gloves,make sure you wipe your hands clean before you make potty. Its really embarrassing if you happen to strip down in front of your follow hunters when getting ready to shower. They all look at you and say, "Jesus, how did you bruse youself down there?"
Damn unclean critters!
Have a great day.
[ December 19, 2006, 08:38 PM: Message edited by: John ]
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