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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 15, 2007, 02:48 PM:
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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on January 15, 2007, 04:30 PM:
I am very interested in this myself. We don't get much snow but when we do I'd have to give it a try in the past and can't recall calling anything during the snow or between snow showers. Even tried it at night during the lulls a couple of times. Once the storm passes it seems they'll come into anything.
Last year we had a light snow (couple inches) and my cousin who lives 45 miles away from me had his best day calling there, called 12 I think, I called 0 all day but it was snowing until mid morning here and had quit over there by daylight. The next day I called 7 and he called 0. We chalked it up to the front moving out of his area first but we don't know.
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Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on January 16, 2007, 12:32 PM:
I'm not old like some, and not a pro, so please skip over if you like.
Are these really big properties you're calling or how do you know that the coyotes on these properties you call aren't being called to on another property by another caller? (this is my problem...)
And I don't know about your area, but around here lack of permission hasn't stopped alot of people from stalking or calling a property if they see a coyote walking into it or through it as they're driving. Heck a fresh track is all it takes to get some to tresspass...
And 3 times in the last year I've asked permission to call different properties only to find out later (when I was printing off arial pics pre scouting) that the farmers who gave me permission didn't own those properties but wanted the coyotes killed so gave me permission on properties they didn't own...
I have one property I'm the only that has permission to call but the coyote hounds run through it from time to time, deer hunters shoot up the coyotes, I know of one tresspassor that called it (I talked about that farm to a friend and he called it the next day and got caught, I crossed his name off my hunting friend list... ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
wife's cousin... can't trust no one...)
Moral being, how can any of us be sure we're calling virgin ears? Well, maybe if it's in a high fence property keeping the coyotes in and the tresspassors out. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Regardless, if the coyote didn't come he didn't like the show you were putting on on that given day. It might have been just that given day or it might have been the show didn't interest him for some reason. Making the show more aggressive might help motivate agressive coyotes, or a more passive show might motivate more passive coyotes (easily intimidated) to respond. Or just a different show, meaning different sounds, timing, location, setup, more calling, less calling, etc.
But again, not a pro here. But getting older. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
And how do you know if a coyote is a transient or resident by the track it makes in the snow??? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
later,
scruffy
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Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 16, 2007, 01:09 PM:
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Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on January 17, 2007, 07:13 AM:
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The area i live in has 1-mile square sections and a few larger sections such as 2 mile and a few 3 mile sections.. When out tracking in the snow the coyotes have an area that they like to bed in and areas that they hunt.
Well heck, your area is just like ours. From looking at your pics in the past it's identical to 2dogs, however mine is more rolling and alot more cover, but similar, some sections identical to yours.
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I went out this mournig looking for coyotes or tracks, buy 8:00 i was on my first coyote for the day, by 8:15 the coyote was down for the count. The coyote made one mistake and that was to turn and look back, i had already dialed in 400 yds on my scope and i took the shot when he stopped to look...This was the coyote that came in late to my stand the day before.. At 10:00 i joined up with the crew and we hunted some of the areas that i called in weeks before. One of the sections was a total bust, we had four coyotes in the section and only got one, another young male.
Yep, a typical day down here as well with good snow.
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Anyway the coyotes are there they are just not responding.
The story of my life. I hate the sitters... Ones you spot, stalk in on, and after a successfull sneak you call to them, unaware you are there, to learn first hand how your calls are working on the coyotes you can't see while purely calling. I hate the coyotes that just sit and stare at your location 400 yards away, no matter what you throw at them, they just don't care to come in. And then you shoot them (or miss...). You end the calling session frustrated that the calls didn't work. The coyote likely was in a "safe" area when I stalked in on him, it should of worked, but it often doesn't, especially this time of year.
Hopefully though your dragging a spot/stalk coyote back to the truck as a consolation prize.
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On another note there was a section we hunted that has a den in the middle of a corn-stubble field and the coyotes are useing this den.
Oh now your just talking crazy talk! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
The topic of coyotes ducking into holes to get out of sub zero 30-40mph+ wind driven snow has been discussed and the consensus was that healthy coyotes don't do it. Sorry. It must have been a badger or something living in there. LOL.
Edit: Good job on the three you got! Please post some pics. Have you been seeing alot of mange up your way. Too much of it down here, but hopefully this cold weather is reducing the number of mangy coyotes so they don't keep spreading it.
later,
scruffy
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 17, 2007, 09:47 AM:
We all see different things, some common, some unique. Personally, I have never seen a coyote go into a hole, or emerge from a hole. Fox do it all the time, in my experience, winter and summer, but I do not hunt the denning season and have not seen a coyote in a den. Will I state catagorically that it doesn't happen...no. Coyotes are highly individualistic and capable of a wide range of behavior, but you can still depend on the average coyote doing the expected. The exception proves the rule, so they tell me?
Good hunting. LB
PS you listening, Wiley?
Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on January 17, 2007, 10:13 AM:
We need TA to put a internet camera on the field hole so we can take turns watching it to see what (coyote?) goes in and out of it, and hopefully record it.
That won't estiblish if this is "normal" behavior for coyotes in the midwest, but atleast we could all say we saw a coyote come in or out of a hole in the middle of winter.
later,
scruffy
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Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on January 17, 2007, 10:35 AM:
I know this isn't "normal", but what is, 1 in 100 bears do this, 1 in 10, 1 in 1000, what makes something "normal"?
Snopes.com confirmed this field hole in Wisconsin (got pics and info from finsandfur.net, awesome site!). Nope, not a coyote though.
"The combine was stuck in what the farmers thought was a badger hole, that was before they saw a big black paw and then a black head come sticking out. They knew then it wasn’t a badger, but instead their
Combine was stuck in a Bear den hole. The Bear den hole turned out to be 5 feet deep. The bear was trying to dig out from under the wheel of the combine but couldn’t get out, so ultimately the DNR told them to shoot it.
It was a male and dressed out at 287 pounds."
All I can say is, dam badgers....
We have "badger holes" all over down here, every terraced field has one or a dozen of them, all over, must be thousands of badgers around here to dig holes everywhere, thick as squirrels, yet I've only seen one badger in 15 years, and he was hanging around the house in the middle of the day climbing trees, I'm assuming sick, his sickness didn't last long.
Anyway, I think badgers get alot more credit for digging holes than they deserve. I could be wrong, but I've seen other things digging holes, but never a badger, hard for me to believe/understand all these "badger holes" everywhere...
Anyway, what is "normal". 1 in 10 coyotes do it? 1 in 5? or 1 in 100? I see multiple active "badger holes" every winter. I know some are inhabited by skunk, as I've been lucky (unlucky?) enough to see them come and go. Others have a lot of coyote tracks around them, pretty sure a skunk inhabited hole wouldn't have "alot" of coyote tracks around it. Same goes for possum and other possible inhabitants. Not sure why there would be so many tracks, both entering and leaving, unless it was using it.
Kind of like antelope, legend says they don't jump fences, yet they do, there's footage that says they do, is it "normal" for an antelope to jump fences? They are certainly capable and have reason to, but is it normal?
But I digress, I don't know the answers, but I think coyotes use holes in non-denning times around here more often than other places, normal or not. Maybe our coyotes are more abnormal?
later,
scruffy
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Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on January 17, 2007, 02:04 PM:
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 17, 2007, 07:06 PM:
In the interest of accuracy, I didn't say anything about culverts, I said den holes, and I would not argue the point, just that I have not SEEN it. And, I do not have doubts that a coyote may enter a hole, I just have not seen it. Are we clear?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 17, 2007, 07:33 PM:
Yes Leonard, LOUD and clear..
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Posted by R.Shaw (Member # 73) on January 17, 2007, 08:06 PM:
I have seen coyote tracks around holes and around culverts. The only coyotes I have seen in those two places were pushed there by hounds.
Randy
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on January 18, 2007, 03:22 AM:
Men who live and breath for the main purpose of hunting, trapping and calling coyotes, realize that a coyote den is only used by coyotes for a short time in the spring. That is why this period of time is widely known as "denning" time. A few less experienced individuals see a coyote come out of a hole and automatically assume they found a coyote den. Coyotes are hunters that check out almost every hole they find. If they smell dinner in the hole, they try to go in there after it. Does that make said hole a coyote den? NOPE.
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Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on January 18, 2007, 07:32 AM:
I agree with Rich that a coyote will seak out dinner where ever he can find it. And because a coyote is in a hole it doesn't make that hole a den, it has to have pups in it to be a den (by my definition), without pups it's just a hole with a coyote in it.
If the places they can get out of the wind is limited, a fence post provides little relief, I don't know why it's such a stretch of the imagination that a coyote, raised in a hole, who raises pups in a hole, hunts in holes, who knows where all the holes in his territories are at, would then go in a hole to get out of the weather or get out of the storm. Heck, I know I would, and I think alot/most coyotes are smarter than me when it comes to outdoor survival.
I'm actually surprised that coyotes other places don't use holes to get out of the weather like they do here. Maybe ours are a little smarter? Maybe it's because all these @#$% badgers that dig holes, one every few hundred yards, that makes them more apealing to coyotes here?
But we'll have to agree to disagree. I won't convince those that haven't seen it, and you won't convince me either, it's counter what I've seen and understand. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
later,
scruffy
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 18, 2007, 08:30 AM:
Once again, personally, I just have not seen it. I believe you, scruffy! It's not a stretch.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on January 18, 2007, 09:31 AM:
2dogs,
I have learned to never say never when it comes to coyotes. Coyotes are ultimate survivors. With all of the pickup jockeys running down coyotes here in the midwest, it would surprise me if coyotes DIDN'T learn to hide in holes or culverts when being chased. The "hole" could be an old coyote den, the den of other creatures, holes caused by erosion, and old culvert or whatever. What I am saying that these holes are not coyote dens in the true meaning of the word.
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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on January 18, 2007, 12:07 PM:
2dogs,
A hole is a hole is a hole, but not every hole is a coyote den. If you don't understand that by now, you probably never will.
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Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on January 18, 2007, 12:28 PM:
For proper english speakers (of which I'm not...) here's what webster states:
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/den
Pronunciation: 'den
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English denn; akin to Old English denu valley, Old High German tenni threshing floor
1 : the lair of a wild usually predatory animal
2 a (1) : a hollow or cavern used especially as a hideout (2) : a center of secret activity b : a small usually squalid dwelling
3 : a comfortable usually secluded room
4 : a subdivision of a Cub Scout pack made up of two or more boys
Based on the above definition (1 and 2) I'll conceed that the hole, colvert, whichever a coyote uses in the winter is infact a "den".
Pup's are NOT required for it to be a "den", atleast by the proper english definition.
TA, I look forward to your hole (DEN) pics!
later,
scruffy
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Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on January 18, 2007, 01:20 PM:
I guess I dropped off the bus at some point because I got lost on what Rich was trying to say in his last (very short and sharp) post.
I imagine it's just a misunderstanding or descrepency in the definition of the word "den" which is one reason why I posted from the dictionary. I thought it would include "pups" but it didn't and I posted earlier a "den" included pups and I was correcting my earlier post in which I was incorrect. (ain't the first, won't be the last, I'm often wrong, as my wife often tells me...)
Hey, can't all us Iowa boys get along???
edit - def of lair, den mentioned in item 2:
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English leger; akin to Old High German legar bed, Old English licgan to lie -- more at LIE
Date: before 12th century
1 dialect British : a resting or sleeping place : BED
2 a : the resting or living place of a wild animal : DEN b : a refuge or place for hiding
Feel like I'm back in school...
later,
scruffy
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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on January 18, 2007, 01:45 PM:
2dogs and scruffy,
You guys are both full of shit, and not worth my time. I will ignore your posts from now on.
Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on January 18, 2007, 02:00 PM:
Rich, I didn't mean to make anyone mad at me, that's not how I go through life.
Guess I got caught in the middle of you two and got hit by the cross fire or something, while trying to keep this from blowing up (which obviously happened anyway...).
I hope you accept my apology for whatever I said that made you mad.
later,
scruffy
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 18, 2007, 03:49 PM:
Well, there obviously must be some sort of communication gap because I cannot figure out who is arguing with who. And, who is beating the subject to death? This is a case where a den may or may not be a den, depending on the actual concept.
Good hunting. LB
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Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on January 19, 2007, 06:24 AM:
TA, those are some good looking spots! I hoping to head up to NW Iowa tomorrow for a day of spotting/stalking as well as some calling stands. Your pics really have me fired up! The area is similar to the pics, and they've been seeing both bedded and walking coyotes and red foxes. We don't have many foxes at all in my home area, haven't for many years, so I'm looking forward to getting a red in my scope! I just need my wife to get a little bit more over her sinus infection, if she doesn't I might have to cancel and stay home and take care of the youngin. Either way, 3-5 inches of new snow here Saturday night into Sunday. If I don't get to hunt the "flats" up north on Saturday I'll sneak on out for a stand and call the hills in my area on Sunday with the fresh snow, possibly cutting a fresh track and stalk one that way. Hopefully you get some fresh powder up your way as well.
Anyway, great pics!
later,
scruffy
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Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on January 21, 2007, 11:03 AM:
Well, not much was laying out yesterday, nor responding to the calls. I was hopeful with the snow storm moving in that evening things would be out but with the 15-20mph south winds and then clouding over not much was laying out or out at all. We didn't see our first deer until 10am and our first rooster pheasant until 4pm... But, we took a break in the spotting and walked slowly into the section belonging to the father-in-law of one of the friends I was hunting with. On the way to a calling spot we spotted this coyote about 500 yards away, one of the guys and I put the sneak on him while another one tried to call him closer when we snuck as close as we could (400 yards). He didn't come and I missed the 400 yard shot, second guesed my range estimate/holderover and aimed lower than I originally calculated and missed low... We kept on him, some kiyi's and howls and moving to cut him off and I had him back in the scope, this time 350 yards away. I didn't second guess myself this time and held over correctly and dropped him DRT, just like it happens on the "TV" LOL. Wish they all did that. Anyway, he was s combo spot/stalk/called coyote. He either wasn't interested in the distress or couldn't hear it, but my howls interested him and seemed to calm him after being shot at. The kiyi's I did then got him to change direction (he was leaving us) and start a wide circle of us which allowed us to cut the distance when terrain allowed and get closer and back on him. Here's a pic (he's going to be tanned for the wall).
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It would certainly be hard to be successful calling up there, there's not only very little approach cover for a coyote to come to the call there's very little, sometimes no, cover for the caller to get into where he wants to call without being seen by a coyote with his eyes open... It's much easier calling in my area!!! But man I love those wide open areas, especailly when you are working a coyote, like cat and mouse, out in it.
Edit: the pic isn't showing up, it must have some funny stuff in the link, even when I try to make it a url it doesn't work, oh well..., picture lots of white stuff, me wearing whites with bloody ankles from dragging the coyote, and a coyote with almost no blood on him, not sure how he could bleed all over me and not himself, but he did...
later,
scruffy
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Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on February 02, 2007, 06:51 AM:
A "den" within the coyote hunting fraternity is usually in reference to a hole or culvert that coyotes are using frequently.
Since the only time I have ever seen coyotes use the same hole or culvert frequently is during the denning season, a "den" usually refers to the hole or culvert being used during the denning season.
When someone talks about a coyote den in the winter, it's usually only a place where a coyote tucked in to escape pursuit.
In this country, during aerial hunting, if there is a culvert or trickle tube in the country, every coyote seems to know about it and you can draw a line in their initial direction of travel directly to that culvert. I've seen coyotes use culverts for protection hundreds of times.
In this country, when a coyote takes off running in a certain direction, they ALMOST ALWAYS have a specific destination in mind. If you follow them, as we do periodically with the plane, it's usually a straight line to that destination. Many times it's a culvert or trickle tube. Most of the time it's the thickest brush around.
~SH~
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Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on February 03, 2007, 06:35 AM:
TA 17: "This year though we are seeing something different, the coyotes are useing the den (hole in ground) more often. From tracks we have followed they lead right to the hole and go in, and this is done by coyotes that are not being hunted or chased at the time."
Interesting observation. Haven't seen that here but I never doubt an actual observation, just unsupported theories.
I'd guess that behavior is related to the pressure these coyotes are under in your area.
Interesting!
Thanks for sharing that even though it contradicts my own observations from around here. I have seen them dive under a snow drift when pursued by snowmobiles. Snowmobiles usually are not following tracks so they usually blaze right on by.
Survivors!
~SH~
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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on February 03, 2007, 02:34 PM:
2Dogs,
I didn't know it was you who made that offer, because you used a different screen name over there. Nice of you to make that offer, thank you.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on February 03, 2007, 02:41 PM:
Wiley E.
I have a friend who lives about 30 miles north-east of here. He see's a lot of the truck jockeys at work there. In talking with him, it sound like the coyotes have started hiding in holes along the creek banks, undercut banks, culverts and etc.
The wiser ones have learned to hide in these places rather than run out the other end of the ditch and get shot at. Just another one of those learned survival things that coyotes are quick to pick up on. That is the way I see it anyway.
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Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on February 15, 2007, 05:49 PM:
Since you killed him for fun and didn't eat him, did you at least yip excitedly while chasing him?
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Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on February 18, 2007, 10:08 PM:
So 2dogs... next time are you gonna say "Watch this, I'm gonna hurt one real bad"
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Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on February 19, 2007, 07:28 AM:
If you put him in that pipe... dragging his intestines for 3/8 of a mile... I'd think you owe it to him. I understand put-down shots aren't sporting enough for ya, so maybe you should tame down the half mile, 55 grain flurries???
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Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on February 19, 2007, 11:16 AM:
Ahh... the big gun. Lot of leaky barn roofs around there?
Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on February 19, 2007, 12:12 PM:
Jason, go back an reread 2dogs's posts, the coyote didn't run into a "pipe" (culvert) but under/into a pile of concrete ruble.
edit: and I think that 243wssm is flat enough that he doesn't put many holes in roofs on coyotes under 1/4 mile away, like this one, LOL, but you probably missed reading how far the coyote was away and that he was "slightly quartering" towards the shooter.
You either didn't read it completely or you're just being silly picking on 2dogs.
later,
scruffy
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