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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 07, 2007, 09:44 AM:
 
Here is a photo of Slydog with his decoy and a few dead coyotes.

 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 07, 2007, 10:04 AM:
 
LOOK OUT, SLY! You are being back doored.

I am very interested in hearing how this decoy works for you because I personally found little value in lugging it around . How is it used?

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 07, 2007, 11:41 AM:
 
First off thanks Rich for posting my picture and for the laugh over the phone.....LOL... I'm still grinning.

LB,

I have used this "DEEK" as its her name, for 21 years and I feel that she adds about 20-25% to my take each year. Aplication is key and the country that you hunt also will dictate how its used but I have very good footage of how coyotes respond to "Deek".

I "THINK" when I am on stand and I use a coyote vocalization, the coyote that responds to that sound expects to see a coyote when he gets there, if there ain't no coyote standing there, little red flags go up and they head for the wind. By putting the "Deek" out there, he/she sees a coyote and hears a coyote and responds with out thinking. My thoughts are that if you can get a coyote to respond quickly they don't have time to think, they tend not to go for the wind and are more likely to end up in the back of my truck posing as a dead moviestar...........LOL

I have also had responces where "Deek" freeked them out and there were no hero pic's. More times than not it works well and gives me more time and more opertunity.

sly
 

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Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on March 07, 2007, 12:14 PM:
 
Sly,You got a nice bunch of coyotes there,and the deek looks alive.Do you use coyote urin around the deek?
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 07, 2007, 05:22 PM:
 
Melvin,

certian times of year I do but for the most part I don't need that reinforcement to get the job done. Mainly durring the late season when the coyote population is made up of survivors, The ones that suspect every sound they hear and go on auto pilot, straight for the wind.

Sure I have a few that hang up but more often than not its as good as a 1/4"gun.

sly
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 07, 2007, 05:42 PM:
 
LB: "I am very interested in hearing how this decoy works for you because I personally found little value in lugging it around . How is it used?

I use it at almost every stand, But I also howl at almost every stand. "Deek" is a female and not that big so she don't intimadate the younger coyotes. As I have said I mainly use female type sounds with very little if any barks or agressive
type sounds untill after the responding coyotes show their hand. I use the alpha type sounds as the ACE in the hole.

Many times I use a mover or a prey animal type decoy and place it 5-6 yards from "Deek" and in front of her. I like many of the decoys but the one I use mainly is the MOJO "critter", I like the spuratic movement, it seems to keep their attention.

sly
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 07, 2007, 07:07 PM:
 
Ok guys, Badger this-----

 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 07, 2007, 07:41 PM:
 
Ok boys here is another badger that tips the scale at just under the 30# mark @ 29.7 lbs. I shot this one today just before the rain started. Should have killed 2 but was on the phone.....LOL

This is on the pasture that I shot 74 on last season. I shot one day before yesterday while talkin to Ronnie, in this same pasture. Only in America.. It looks like I'm going to break the magical 100 this year if things keep going the way they are. This badger is #51 and I haven't started on the pasture across the road yet. Its a little over 11,000 acres. Its the pasture where I shot 10 badger in less than 4 hours. Its all windage and elevation..........lol

BTW This rifle is the new TC/Encore Pro Hunter with the MGM custom Slydog taper 1/12 twist 27 1/2" Douglas barrel. I sent the reciver to Stratton custom TC accessorys in Hurricane UT. to have Steve tune the trigger, hone and cook a new spring to a crisp 1.5lb trigger. This gun shoots a SUB 1/4" group.
I'm shooting a Dakota 20Tac w/40grn Berger bullet @ 4000 fps with 1/4" accuricy

OOOOyes, Thanks Rich for posting this pic for me

sly

[ March 07, 2007, 11:21 PM: Message edited by: slydog ]
 

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Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on March 07, 2007, 09:12 PM:
 
Leonard: "I am very interested in hearing how this decoy works for you because I personally found little value in lugging it around."

I agree Leonard!

I know many ADC guys that had a decoy and they all are being used for mouse nests. Most guys do not like to expose themselves enough to place the decoy where it's visible. I haven't seen any advantage to it. Bill Austin had one many years ago and he too quit using it.

~SH~
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 07, 2007, 11:11 PM:
 
Maybe thats why its working so well for me.

sly
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 08, 2007, 04:59 AM:
 
"Most guys do not like to expose themselves enough to place the decoy where it's visible."
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Wiley,
That is what you once said about electronic calling machines also. Did you retire the W.T. yet?
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 08, 2007, 06:54 AM:
 
In some areas of the U.S. i see where it could be an advantage to use one. I have a decoy i used a few times and found that it was a waste of time for me in the type of area i was calling in.
When the coyote came in to see the decoy, i already had the coyote in my cross-hairs.
I would think that if a caller could read the body language of the coyote and use his calls properly the decoy would'nt be needed. When useing a electric caller i place it on the way in or i just set it next to me..

[ March 08, 2007, 06:56 AM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
 

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Posted by JeremyKS (Member # 736) on March 08, 2007, 07:20 AM:
 
Very interesting barrel on that gun. Can you tell us a little more about it? Whats the reason for it?
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 08, 2007, 07:40 AM:
 
"I would think that if a caller could read the body language of the coyote and use his calls properly the decoy would'nt be needed. When useing a electric caller i place it on the way in or i just set it next to me.."
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TA,
You set the electronic caller right beside you? No wonder your coyotes seem uncallable. Did you ever wonder how many coyotes busted you when they stood inside the cover and looked over there for source of the screams? Did you ever wonder how many coyotes circled downwind, caught your scent and left without your knowing that you even called anything? Have you ever wondered how many coyotes saw you from their hideout in the ditch, or maybe looked over there for the rabbit they just heard but there was nothing there to see, so they left in disgust? Gosh TA, there are people here who would love to help you, but you don't seem to listen very well. I know this is going to piss you off, but if I can help you start using your head a little bit then maybe you can start calling coyotes. I am an old man TA, I don't need to prove anything to anybody and I don't need to talk to the wall either.
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 08, 2007, 07:43 AM:
 
The TC/Encore is a fairly light gun with standard barrels. I want to see bullet strike, don't want no jump, also barrel whip from light barrels is one scorce of "Flyers" in your groups. By adding that bulk to the front half of the barrel I'm fixing to problems at once.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 08, 2007, 07:50 AM:
 
...and maybe introducing a different one? The barrel harmonics would seem to be abrupt, but when, you said it's a quarter incher, right? Odd looking solution.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 08, 2007, 08:10 AM:
 
LB,

I also have one in 22PPC , 25-06 and .308, they all shoot very well also.

Even a blind hog will root up an acorn once in a while......LOL

sly
 

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Posted by JeremyKS (Member # 736) on March 08, 2007, 08:37 AM:
 
very interesting you think its better than just a normal heavy barrel
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 08, 2007, 10:11 AM:
 
Well sir, for what I'm doing and the aplication its better for me. In other aplications I realy can't say.

My needs were simple.
1: I wanted weight forward.
2: I didn't want to have to custom build every forarm for all the diferent barrels.
3: I needed all the barrels to be the same except in caliber.
4: I wanted the barrels to cool as fast as possable.
and I wanted an 11` target crown inset to just under the caliber diamiter, to protect that crown.

All this is incorperated into this barrel design.
lucky for me it worked well and I had to make very little changes in design to get this design to work across the board.

Shooting the TC/Encore is great for me in that I have only one stock fit, one trigger pull and can change calibers at will with out any change in weight or feel. There are drawbacks in that I don't have a 20 round clip full of extra shots, or a clip with 5 extra shots with little effort to reload.
It has turned me into a much more consistant shooter and I get on the call faster to stop the runners for those multiple situations.

we all have to be comfortable in our own level of ugly....... If you get my meaning.

To each his own.

sly
 

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Posted by JeremyKS (Member # 736) on March 08, 2007, 10:19 AM:
 
Not doubting anything, just never seen anything like it. Looks like it must work.
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 08, 2007, 10:40 AM:
 
No worries, I was just trying to explain the why's and reasons. No offence taken

This was an extra and in no way was it planed but I'm tickled with the outcome, By doing this conture it allows the scope to ride closer to the bore. That was a bonus

sly

[ March 08, 2007, 10:44 AM: Message edited by: slydog ]
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 08, 2007, 11:04 AM:
 
Rich; Thanks for trying to help. When i'm in the Dakotas Rich that is when i place the electric caller beside me. When out there i use a Dennis Kirk caller and it don't have a remote.
As you know i bought a big country bandit this year to use here at home and it has a remote.. I have been setting it up wind of my stand about 30-40 yards. I have a rabbit decoy that sits on a stick and the wind makes it move some, i also have a coyote decoy i used a few times here and out west.
When i would come back the next day to some of my stands i could clearly see that a coyote did come in. but not dureing the time i was on stand, 5-10 hours later.. Anyway thanks again Rich for the help, i do listen to everything that has been said and i take it into consideration. Hopefuly this year or next i can spend some time with Scott H. and apply what i learn from him and turn this problem around with these Mn. coyotes...
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 08, 2007, 11:18 AM:
 
Slydog: Very nice shooting rigg, and you have some good ideas there..
My rifles are set up simuler, but i use a bolt action switch barrel, just like youre set-up i use the same stock and just change the barrels.
I do alot of walking so i keep my barrels on the lighter side. The stocks i use are the sako hunter style with high comb, better eye to scope alignment and more area of stock rests against the cheek, less bite.
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 08, 2007, 01:33 PM:
 
"Hopefuly this year or next i can spend some time with Scott H. and apply what i learn from him and turn this problem around with these Mn. coyotes..."
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Who is Scott H ? Can he call coyotes? Maybe I need to meet that guy sometime.
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 08, 2007, 02:31 PM:
 
HA..HA..HA....ROFLMAO.....that is some funny sh** Rich

TA17Rem, Thanks, its a killin rig, not a plinkin rig. I rely on this rig every day. This is just my rig of choice, maybe not for everyone but its accurate and consistant.

sly

[ March 08, 2007, 02:36 PM: Message edited by: slydog ]
 

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Posted by coyote whacker (Member # 639) on March 08, 2007, 03:20 PM:
 
I'm wondering why you don't go with a good bolt action? This stuff of barrel whip may come into play when lighting up a dog town or compition shooting but for coyotes I have no problem with a heavy barrel 22-250 rem or even a SS 700 25/06 for coyotes, as if your warming up a SS barrel enough to cause accuracy issues then you have alot of fast coyote action!

I think any gun that gets you 1/2"- 3/4" groups is more than plenty for shooting coyotes. The main thing is to shoot what ever rifle enough to know the bullets path and what it will do with cross winds, as even the most accurate rifle in the world is only as good as the guy behind it, making correct yardage and windage estimates.

How much does your out fit weigh?
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 08, 2007, 04:04 PM:
 
Rich; I have never met Scott H., and i did some checking around and i found out the man is a liveing legend in S.D. and his students speak highly of him.
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 08, 2007, 04:24 PM:
 
CW,

I own over 60 long guns, I do own bolt guns I just prefer the single shot. As for getting it hot shooting at coyotes...LOL not hardly I don't have to shoot that many shots to kill a coyote.

I do however shoot hundreds if not thousands of rounds at rodents each spring. This is not a hobbie for me, this is what I do. I build my guns as versital as I can. I'm not happy with 1/2-3/4" groups, I cull guns that shoot groups like that or rebarrel them and start over. Some people are happy with that, not me. Aim small hit small.

The rig that I'm holding in the pic weighs 13 1/4lbs I have 2 others built the same but I built one for long range shooting. It has a 30" full bull and weighs 14 1/2 lbs, it will shoot 3" groups at 500 consistantly with my personal best being a .698 3 shot group @ 500 yards.

Only in America ware we have a choice and the right to it.

sly
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 08, 2007, 04:26 PM:
 
Yeah, that's true. He's famous, like a Rock Star with them Ole's and Gustav's, even has a posse, on Saturday nights at the Dairy Queen.

edit: That's Scott. Sly's probably famous, locally, but not statewide, like Scott.

reedit: or Higgins, for that matter.

Good hunting. LB

[ March 08, 2007, 04:30 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on March 08, 2007, 05:36 PM:
 
Mr. Rich Cronk:"You set the electronic caller right beside you? No wonder your coyotes seem uncallable. Did you ever wonder how many coyotes busted you when they stood inside the cover and looked over there for source of the screams?"

I would like to point out that I find nothing wrong with TA having the E-caller right next to him. Other than the fact that they are made for and meant to get the sound source and hence the coyotes attention away from you. LOL. We as hand callers have the sound coming directly from where we are at and have coyotes come in. So what would be the difference in having an e-caller sitting in your lap or a hand call in your mouth? If the coyotes are supposedly un-callable or shy then that's the breaks. I don't think the improper use of an e-caller is to blame.
Just to counter-point.
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 08, 2007, 07:46 PM:
 
"So what would be the difference in having an e-caller sitting in your lap or a hand call in your mouth?"
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BINGO Smithers!!! If you ain't gonna use an electronic caller correctly and take advantage of it's strength's, you have just dropped the ball. Why bother to carry an E caller in there if you ain't gonna use it right? Even if you are unable to blow a hand call, there is no reason not to take full advantage of the tools you carry with you is there?
 

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Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on March 08, 2007, 09:34 PM:
 
Rich: "That is what you once said about electronic calling machines also. Did you retire the W.T. yet?"

Apples and Oranges.

Decoy needs to be placed where it's visible which exposes you. WT can be placed beside you or away from you which may or may not expose you. No I have not retired the WT. I use it only because I can give my lungs a rest and spend more time watching for coyotes.

~SH~

[ March 08, 2007, 09:41 PM: Message edited by: Wiley E ]
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 09, 2007, 12:16 AM:
 
LB,

I'm more infamous but I'm better lookin.....LOL .... sorry Scott, You can't have it all............LOL

Apples, oranges or watermellons. It comes down to what works best for the indevidual caller. What works for some may not work for others, there are hundreds of vairiables, reigon, climate, hunting pressure, number of coyotes, calling style, Body oder, with the wind, crosswind, wind in your face.

My grandfather said: listen to it all, pick out the parts you can use and file the rest in the shit pile. Every hunter has his/her style of calling, if they take 10% from each good hunter they meet and add it to their bag of tricks, all that can happen is they will learn and develope better hunting skills and put more coyotes on strechers.

Sly
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 09, 2007, 06:00 AM:
 
"Apples and Oranges."

"Decoy needs to be placed where it's visible which exposes you. WT can be placed beside you or away from you which may or may not expose you. No I have not retired the WT. I use it only because I can give my lungs a rest and spend more time watching for coyotes."
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All well and good Scott, but when you made that statement about electronic callers, you were talking about E callers and not decoys. I'm ribbing you a little, but I find it interesting how a little experience with an Apple or orange can change the way a feller feels about em. Regarding Electronic callers and their use, there are ever changing variables which require somewhat different placement location for the speaker. Same apply's to decoy use. Different presentation of decoy in broken country VS open terrain for instance.
 

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Posted by tlbradford (Member # 1232) on March 09, 2007, 11:11 AM:
 

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Ok boys here is another badger that tips the scale at just under the 30# mark @ 29.7 lbs. I shot this one today just before the rain started. Should have killed 2 but was on the phone.....LOL

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So now I am getting blamed for messing up a hunt 300 miles away Usually it is just my calling partner telling me to keep my butt still.

I enjoyed talking to you for the first time, and hopefully we'll meet up before too long.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 09, 2007, 01:26 PM:
 
Welcome to the New Huntmasters, tlbradford.
Glad to have you on board.

I've been through Spokane, looks like good calling country.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 09, 2007, 01:34 PM:
 
Travis,

LOL...... Grandpa always said the guilty dog barks the loudest...... It was good talking with you too. I double doggie dare you to come hunt with me.... Anytime you like. I truly enjoy hunting with other callers as I'm convinced that you can learn something from anybody and others have their own ways. Sometimes what you learn is that your way is better, sometimes you learn little tricks that you can use, sometimes you just learn who to hunt with and who not to hunt with but you will always learn something. At least I do.

I look forward to it.

sly
 

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Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on March 09, 2007, 06:38 PM:
 
Mr. Cronk, I agree wholeheartedly. To me it's like buying a Corvette and always going 25MPH. You are not taking advantage of it's strengths. But to say that he gets spotted because he has the caller next to him is the point I would contend. If he has it in his lap, beside him or 250 yds out I don't think it would take away from the effectiveness of the e-caller. I have one of the JS small handhelds, the 5 sound deal. I use it occasionally paired with a decoy and believe you me it is at least 35-40 yards out in the day but a bit closer at night, 10-15 yards.
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 10, 2007, 06:28 AM:
 
"Mr. Cronk, I agree wholeheartedly. To me it's like buying a Corvette and always going 25MPH. You are not taking advantage of it's strengths. But to say that he gets spotted because he has the caller next to him is the point I would contend."
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Smithers,
I'm fairly sure that you realize when a coyote comes in, it is using eyes and nose to locate source of the screams it hears. There are times when getting your human form and human scent out away from the source of the screams can make the difference between success and failure. That is my point.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 10, 2007, 08:29 AM:
 

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There are times when getting your human form and human scent out away from the source of the screams can make the difference between success and failure. That is my point. (Mr Cronk)

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This may work? I think I will try it!

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 10, 2007, 08:46 AM:
 
"This may work? I think I will try it!"
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ROFLMAO Leonard!!!!! You have been doing that since Moses was just a pup. Dang trouble makers around here are terrible.
 

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Posted by coyote whacker (Member # 639) on March 10, 2007, 09:39 AM:
 
That is one of the biggest advanatges of an e caller in my mind. Many coyotes will try and circle downwind of the sound source or visual attractor by placing that caller out there you can be out of the scent stream and get the coyote between you and the caller making for some real close action and with proper concealment that coyote doesn't have a clue your there.

Many coyotes I have seen are at that 40-70 yrd range when they come in downwind, so that range is what I try for if I can place the caller and not get caught doing so.

Pup calling in spet and oct, you can get by with it closer ,as many of them just head straight for the sound source and the reason many dumb pups don't make it through the fall/winter young, bold and naive. Makes for alot of doubles and triples and fun shooting though.
 

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Posted by tlbradford (Member # 1232) on March 10, 2007, 11:02 AM:
 

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Welcome to the New Huntmasters, tlbradford.
Glad to have you on board.

I've been through Spokane, looks like good calling country.

Good hunting. LB

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LOL...... Grandpa always said the guilty dog barks the loudest......

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Many coyotes I have seen are at that 40-70 yrd range when they come in downwind, so that range is what I try for if I can place the caller and not get caught doing so.

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That is why i like the caller in my lap or off to the side of me. If the coyotes are hanging up 40-70 yards from the caller and you have the caller another 40 yards out, the coyotes will end up hanging up at a 100 yds or more. By placeing the caller in my lapp most of my shots are at 50-100 yds. When the coyote comes in and looks at me and the sound source its to late, the bullet is on the way...
When i use a electric caller i use only two sounds, a animal in distress and coyote vocal.
I can see on my stands for a long ways and if i have a coyote that is dragging his butt to come in, then i will turn the caller on and leave it on till the end or just before the coyote comes over the last small hill.
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 10, 2007, 05:10 PM:
 
"One night earlier this year I called nearly non stop for 30 minutes. 25- 30 howls, coyote distress, pup distress, yip howls, prey distress and whatever else I could think of. I ended up calling a pair onto the dirt road only 15 yards from where I was leaning against the hood of my parked car. No weapon, no shot."
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I give up.
 

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Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on March 10, 2007, 05:59 PM:
 
You give up!? LOL! That is great.
"The wisdom of the wise is an uncommon degree of common sense!"
But, alas, Mr. Cronk all is not lost.
I do go out occasionally with no intent on killing what I call and there's no harm in that. I was just out calling for shits and giggles.
I parked on the side of a dirt road, next to a farm, where I did not have permission to hunt. I don't need permission to call, of course, so I did. I was on my way to watch Tito Ortiz get his teeth kicked in by Chuck Liddell, Dec. 30th if I remember correctly. This is one of the farms I alluded to in a previous thread. The coyotes are off limits because they keep the deer and turkey population in check along with about 15 deer hunters.
I had a JS locator CD blasting thru the stereo and an e-caller sitting on the hood playing Hell's Bells!
 

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Posted by 6mm284 (Member # 1129) on March 13, 2007, 05:15 AM:
 
Hey Rich, are you sure that is a decoy next to slydog, looks like a coyote just sneaked up on him when he was busy getting his picture taken.
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 13, 2007, 06:01 AM:
 
6mm284,
It looks like the legs are too short, body & neck too long and head too small to be a full blooded canis latrans. Some kind of strange cross breed, but coyotes seem to like it.
 

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Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on March 13, 2007, 09:48 AM:
 
I want to say something about the use of a stuffed/mounted coyote,decoy.I quit doing taxidermy work about ten years ago.I want to tell you why the decoy doesn't always work for you.All taxidermist use a tanning solution and this leaves a long lasting smell on the hide.Taxidermist also use a paste or spray on the hide or manikin so the hide will stick to the manikin.The point is;there is a lot of foreign smell on a mounted coyote.If you place a mounted coyote to your far left or right,you stand twice the chance of being busted.I honestly believe,this is why,Leonard and others had bad experiences,using a decoy.If i was to use a decoy,it would be placed out in front or directly below me.If there going to smell the decoy,there going to smell me too.I do believe a decoy will work'if'used/placed in the right location.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 13, 2007, 03:34 PM:
 
No, can't agree with that, Melvin. At least in my application. Personal opinion, of course, but my decoy positively reeked of coyote urine, and of course, I put it in front of me. None of the coyotes that spotted it and shied away, never bothered to go downwind, in the first place. I can't imagine why I would place it anywhere else?

In my opinion, a decoy is hardly ever needed with coyotes, and excepting denning season, a rabbit type of decoy is a lot more effective than a coyote decoy because a coyote is not afraid of a rabbit. But, it is beyond dispute (as far as I'm concerned) that a coyote decoy will spook some coyotes, and cause others to hang up a lot further out than desired. What it translates to (for me) is that it causes more harm than good, besides being a pain in the ass to lug around.

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 14, 2007, 06:38 AM:
 
Leonard,
Those California coyotes are afraid of other coyotes? I wonder how they manage to breed out there.

Now THAT's funny rat there.
 

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Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on March 14, 2007, 07:50 AM:
 
Leonard,i think,i might have worded that wrong up there.I wasn't trying to say you placed the decoy to your right or left.I was trying to point out that i didn't think it would be a good idea.You would be increasing the size of the scent cone.I don't believe you can cover the odor of a taxidermy decoy,trapping has learned me what foreign odors can do.We can cover it up for our nose,but not a coyotes.

I can see where a coyote decoy would work during denning and breeding season.I can also see where it could screw you up with younger coyotes.In the type of country i call,it would be of no value for me.If i was hunting open country,at the right time of year,i think i would give it a try.

Rich C,let us know how it works out for you.

[ March 14, 2007, 08:02 AM: Message edited by: Melvin ]
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 14, 2007, 08:37 AM:
 
Melvin,
I have the mounted coyote ready to go, and will keep you guys posted as to how she works out in the field.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 14, 2007, 10:06 AM:
 
Hey Rich! I was just glancing at my John Henry bobble-head doll, and it came to me in a flash... WHAP!

Two words: "animation"

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 14, 2007, 10:09 AM:
 
Time of year, application, location, hunting presure, stand selection and the plethera of other factors lead to weather your successful or draw a blank. The country I do 80% of my hunting in is wide open with sage brush flats and roling hills. I try to always set up with hight advantage so I can see for good distances (200-1000 yards) in most cases, I try to put a mover (rabbit type) decoy in plain sight, I put the "Deek" a few yards away and not right out in the open (not hidden either). The coyotes see the mover and approach to then see the "Deek". It has spooked a few, "PUPS" but thats about it.

This time of year I put "Deek" out front, in plain sight and sometimes I'll use a mover,also. I find that the decoy coyote puts the incoming yotes kinda at ease,"Like,OK there is no man there type thing", many come charging in but most kinda mill around approaching slowly but unafraid.
Also the posture of my "Deek" is not threatening and therefore don't threaten the approaching coyotes. I hunt strictly hunt daylights unless its a depradation call. I understand that hunting nights would change things a little.

I have used "DEEK" in several states and in different terrain and the success rate will varry but not enough to make me leave "Deek" at home..

Sly
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 14, 2007, 10:54 AM:
 
Speaking of Geek's, er I mean DEEK's----

 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 14, 2007, 11:03 AM:
 
Thanks for the intro Rich,......LOL

This is yesterdays haul: far right 21lb boar Badger, middle is a 38lb boar Badger and the little one next to me is 16lbs female, not bad for 3 hours work.

I think I'm gonna build a lifesize Badger Decoy and call him "Dozer"

BTW, the big one will make a great rug, anyone interested?
sly

[ March 14, 2007, 11:05 AM: Message edited by: slydog ]
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 14, 2007, 12:45 PM:
 
Looks like old Sly's decoy is still doing it's duty.

 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 14, 2007, 02:48 PM:
 
Naw Rich,

I just tote that coyote decoy around for pic's

This pic was in mid feb when it was still cold

sly

Thanks again Rich, I'm gonna have to put you on the payrole.........LOL
 

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Posted by tlbradford (Member # 1232) on March 14, 2007, 03:26 PM:
 
Now that is real talent when you can decoy in a couple of badgers.
 

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Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on March 14, 2007, 04:25 PM:
 
By the time you haul all of those decoys out on a stand, call and shoot a coyote, the haul everything back to the truck. I'll have made 2-3 stands.

I guess my point of diminishing returns, is just set a lot lower than yours.
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 14, 2007, 04:45 PM:
 
Tim Behle,
You ain't been borrowing John-Henry's pink camper again have ya?
Hoo Boy, I hope J.H. reads that question. LOL
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 14, 2007, 04:59 PM:
 
Tim: "By the time you haul all of those decoys out on a stand, call and shoot a coyote, the haul everything back to the truck. I'll have made 2-3 stands."

You are right, whare you are you proly can. Here that ain't the case and I guess that is the difference between your hunting and mine.
Just like the defending world champs who came to Idaho and hunted their ass off and got skunked, Goose egged the Idaho state championship less than a month after winning the world. What worked to win the world did not work in Idaho. Different day, time, weather conditions and country change the way you hunt everywhare you go. Only west Texas, southern New Mexico, Arizona and southern Cali. I should also includ Nevada as one of the quick responce states. Although I have hunted in those states when nothing works it is much the oposit and most of the time when I go south I can kill almost as many coyotes in 3 weeks as I kill all year here in Idaho. If you time it right and you are hunting ground that no one has pounded a good caller could kill 8-10 coyotes here in Idaho but it ain't the norm. A good average day in Idaho is 3 coyotes but there are many days that you will have ass cramps from sitting on the cold ground and wind chaped skin from the cold wind with no fur to show for your trouble. There are many hunters who have come and hunted here and spent many days trying to get a responce. Some have had good days and some say coyote hunting in Idaho sucks..

To each his or her own.

sly

Travis, truth is one came to the call but the other was a drive by........LOL

[ March 14, 2007, 05:01 PM: Message edited by: slydog ]
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 17, 2007, 04:35 AM:
 
more badgering

 

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Posted by coyote whacker (Member # 639) on March 17, 2007, 04:43 AM:
 
Whats with all the decals on the truck?
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 17, 2007, 04:59 AM:
 
coyote whacker,
I was wondering the same thing. I also noticed the coyote track on his left shirt sleeve. Must have experienced a mis-fire and the coyote ran right over him?
 

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Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on March 17, 2007, 08:26 AM:
 
A friend of mine just got back from Idaho. He said he never saw coyotes that were that easy to call. Of course he didn't expose himself placing a decoy where coyotes could see it either. FWIW!

~SH~
 

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Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on March 17, 2007, 09:01 AM:
 
Are those all his sponsors on that truck?
 

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Posted by Wiley E (Member # 108) on March 17, 2007, 09:29 AM:
 
Rich: "I was wondering the same thing. I also noticed the coyote track on his left shirt sleeve. Must have experienced a mis-fire and the coyote ran right over him?"

Hahaha! Thaz funny rat thar!

~SH~
 

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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on March 17, 2007, 01:59 PM:
 
"Are those all his sponsors on that truck?"
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Dan,
The badgers hanging on his truck are the ones who REFUSED to sponsor him. I think he hynotized em with those psychodelic glasses you see above bill of his cap.
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 17, 2007, 02:46 PM:
 
This pic was yesterdays haul. shot the first one while I was talking to Ronnie within 10 min of getting to the pasture. Ronnie and I were still talkin when I spotted the seccond but Ronnie had to get off the phone when Momma got home and I killed the seccond badger 15 min after we got off the phone. In all I shot 6 badger in 3 1/2 hours. Two of them were big boars and weighed in at 26# and the other was just over 30# not bad for a dumbass without any expiriance.......LOL

FYI 3 of the 6 were shot with a 5mm rimfire magnum @ under 100 yards, one was shot with my 20 Tac @ 238 lazered yards and the other two were shot side by side @ 194 lazered yards. All head and neck shots.................I sure am lucky
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DanS: "Are those all his sponsors on that truck?"

Yes sir, they are sponsors.
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Scott: "A friend of mine just got back from Idaho. He said he never saw coyotes that were that easy to call."

Time of year, location, weather, calling ability, hunting presure, coyote dencity and a thousand other varibles contribute to success and lets not forget LUCK.
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Rich: "Must have experienced a mis-fire and the coyote ran right over him?"

Rich I do suffer from a FUBAR once an a while. Hell thats the closest I got all year...................LOL

Rich: "I think he hynotized em with those psychodelic glasses you see above bill of his cap."

Now that is some funny sh** rat thar...LOL....ROFLMAO
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I just thought ya'll would like to see what good badger huntin looks like... I have noticed that the squirrel population is down and that generaly means that the Badger population will follow so I'm enjoying the feast.....LOL....cause the famin is commin.....LOL

sly

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 17, 2007, 04:31 PM:
 
WTF? Is this "ranch" a corn fed badger breeding operation?

Never seen so many in one place?

Good hunting. LB
 

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Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on March 17, 2007, 07:33 PM:
 
thats alot of badgers.......see a few here, but it takes me a year to see what you whacked in a afternoon......Kelly
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on March 17, 2007, 08:45 PM:
 
Slydog, just what do all those people sponsor you for?

ps. You might want to hang something over that Remington sticker when you post pics of a TC, hear they been cutting people loose lately.
 

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Posted by slydog (Member # 389) on March 17, 2007, 09:46 PM:
 
LB:WTF,........LOL... I think its to do with the high population of squirrels we have but I think that population is crashing and if so the Badger population will follow. Last year I took 74 Badger, I'm at 72 now and will break the century mark if things do the same as last year.

These last two years have been banner type years. I normaly kill 45 to 55 badger a year here in Idaho. Hunting and traping. Some years 10-12 is good, we are in an up swing and I'm not sure when it will crash.
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Kelly: "see a few here, but it takes me a year to see what you whacked in a afternoon......Kelly"

It ain't always like this Kelly, I've had years where I never even seen a badger in Colorado and Nebraska. When I moved here it only took a few weeks to figure out I had landed in the promised land.......
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Tom64: " Slydog, just what do all those people sponsor you for?"

Well sir, I founded a non profit org. for kids called "Raven's Idaho Youth Hunter, Inc." 10 years ago and have many sponsors, 54 I think.

I also have Slydog Productions. A production company that has a new series comming out this fall called the "Chronicles" video series. A spring turkey hunting series called "Ledgends of the Spring" that will be released this summer and will be hosting some predator hunting shows for MOJO starting this 4th quarter. MOJO Outdoor TV, we have some real good footage we shot this winter with some rairly seen coyote behavior and some real good shooting. Its been fun and I can't wait to show everyone some of this footage.

sly

[ March 17, 2007, 09:48 PM: Message edited by: slydog ]
 

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