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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted August 02, 2007 10:00 PM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
For those of you who work to call wildlife in to be shot with a camera instead of a gun. How do you set up? Do you set up and call the same as you would with a rifle, have you tried using a pop up blind?

What kind of camera and lens do you use?

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Icon 1 posted August 03, 2007 06:41 AM      Profile for varmit hunter   Email varmit hunter         Edit/Delete Post 
Tim, when Lohman had a TV show we hired guys from TV stations. They came up with home made ponchos. They would get the camo netting and cut it about twice the size of a Army poncho. They had slits for the arms and head. They would attach a few fishing sinkers to the bottom to reduce wind effects.

With just a head net and a pair of gloves they looked like a shapeless pile. Most of the time they kept there arms under the poncho.

As much as they traveled they would have three or four of these things to match the terrain. Since you live in Coyazona you will only need one.

[ August 03, 2007, 06:42 AM: Message edited by: varmit hunter ]

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Rich Higgins
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Icon 1 posted August 03, 2007 07:23 AM            Edit/Delete Post 
Tim, I set up according to the terrain and my mood on that day.
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That's me directly in front of the coyote.

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That's me prone in front of the bobcat.

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And somdays I'm lazy and make the dog do all of the work.

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Although she isn't a real stable platform and some of her shots are kinda askew.

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted August 03, 2007 11:33 AM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
Varmint Hunter,

I've got one of those camo nets. While it worked great in the Midwest, it sucks out here in cactus country. It gets caught in everything around, and saves thorns for the next time you sit down. [Eek!]

Has anyone ever tried calling from a portable ground blind? How do the coyotes react to it?

[ August 03, 2007, 06:05 PM: Message edited by: Tim Behle ]

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TRnCO
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Icon 1 posted August 03, 2007 06:16 PM      Profile for TRnCO   Email TRnCO         Edit/Delete Post 
We've tried to call to the blind, only while turkey hunting, BUT on the two occasions that I was on scene, the coyotes didn't commit all the way in, like they knew that the blind did not belong in thier surroundings. They came close enough for rifle, one came close enough for shotgun, but none of them came close enough for the bow, we had 4 coming at one spot. We were calling from the blind, BUT I think if a guy had a remote Ecaller, you could kill plenty with a rifle. Turkeys don't mind the blind out in the middle of nothing, BUT coyotes seem to need the blind at least partially brushed in or at least along vegetation that helps blend it some.

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JeremyKS
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Icon 1 posted August 04, 2007 03:59 PM      Profile for JeremyKS   Author's Homepage   Email JeremyKS         Edit/Delete Post 
To restate part of Tim's question what camera is everybody using? video and still?

Ive been looking to buy a new SLR digital camera. Looking at the Canon Rebel and an Olympus E410. Any suggestions out there?

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted August 04, 2007 08:49 PM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
I use a Nikon D70. It's a great camera, But I've had it for 2 years and am still learning to use it to it's full potential. Up to now, I put the settings on Automatic, and used it as a point and shoot. I got Great pictures, but I think it can do even better if I learn to set the controls for each shot.

My standard lens is a Nikkor AF-S 18-70mm ED I also use a Nikkor AF 70-300 G

But I'd like to save up and buy one of the bigger lenses with Vibration Reduction and More reach.

On of the most helpful sites I've found is www.KenRockwell.com If you look around his site, he compares a lot of different cameras, and does a fair job of instruction ( The instructions on the D70 have at least been helpful, I didn't read any of the others )

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted August 06, 2007 08:05 PM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
Does this mean that I'm the only one on this board who calls with a DSLR instead of video camera?

I've seen some great pictures posted here, what do you use to capture them?

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stevecriner
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Icon 1 posted August 10, 2007 02:14 PM      Profile for stevecriner   Email stevecriner         Edit/Delete Post 
Jeremy, I use the Rebelxt and love it. Should be some pics in PX next month i took with it.....
steve

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Locohead
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Icon 1 posted August 30, 2007 05:12 PM      Profile for Locohead   Email Locohead         Edit/Delete Post 
Tim,

I just use a Nikon SLR and a mongo zoom lens. I take the film to Walgreens and have the pictures put on a cd. Then my chick PhotoShopifize it. PhotoShop is so cool it is just like having a digital camera! I spent a lot of money on the zoom lens and camera many years ago and have just decided not to make the switch to digital yet!

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Icon 1 posted September 01, 2007 04:37 AM      Profile for 3 Toes           Edit/Delete Post 
I have been using a new Canon Rebel XTi with a 70 to 300 mm stabilized lense. It is alot of fun. I traded off one of my video cameras to buy it and really enjoy it. But I set up just the same and after I take a few pictures the rifle comes into play. I just cant get into catch and release I guess.

[ September 01, 2007, 04:39 AM: Message edited by: 3 Toes ]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted September 01, 2007 05:22 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, Boo! Catch and release, like Higgins?

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CBGC
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Icon 1 posted September 01, 2007 04:19 PM      Profile for CBGC   Author's Homepage   Email CBGC         Edit/Delete Post 
Here are some picts from a catch and release...

Catch
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and here is the....

Release
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Here is a link to the footage (sorry about the mic jitter) --> http://www.coyoteseasternstyle.com/mpg/CatchandRelease.wmv
Camera: Sony HDR FX1
Setup: Hopefully where the coyotes R!
Trailer: --> http://www.critterbustercalls.com/mpg/Ce-Trailer.wmv
Hope ya enjoy..Please let me know what you think.

[ September 02, 2007, 05:01 AM: Message edited by: CBGC ]

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Icon 1 posted September 04, 2007 08:02 PM      Profile for canine   Email canine         Edit/Delete Post 
We run Panasonic video cameras. Lookin to switch over to Canon's for this coming season.

CBGC, how many kills have you got for your Eastern style video? That must be interesting workin with radio collared coyotes for studies.

JD

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CBGC
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Icon 1 posted September 05, 2007 01:49 PM      Profile for CBGC   Author's Homepage   Email CBGC         Edit/Delete Post 
canine
We have a couple kills in PA and some from NY on film. I spend most of the time filming by myself and I dont carry a gun very often...so that makes it tough.

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predatorhunters
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Icon 1 posted September 12, 2007 10:09 PM      Profile for predatorhunters   Author's Homepage   Email predatorhunters         Edit/Delete Post 
I use a Panasonic DVX100B video camera and set-up as I would with a rifle. I usually sit on my butt with a fence or brush row near my back, with tripod between my legs. I find it VERY important to be slightly above the level of the video camera... as a result, I tilt the viewfinder up on about a 45 degree and look down into it. I also cut my Manfrotto tripod handle in half so it's only about 8 inches long. That way it doesn't interfere with panning by contacting my chest or hunting clothes. I don't cover/camo my camera or tripod at all, the predators just don't see me as long as I am completely camoed which I always am. I think the pod and camera just look like clutter from a distance like many other details on a fencerow. As for still camera, I'd do the same thing but with a l-o-n-g lens. I'd still use a video fluid panning head for tracking and fast acquisition of the animal, as opposed to a jerky tilt/pan photographic head. I use the Manfrotto 501. It's A1. Hope this helps!

[ September 12, 2007, 10:17 PM: Message edited by: predatorhunters ]

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