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Posted by JohnLK (Member # 1978) on February 26, 2010, 07:37 AM:
Here is a spot where I sat 2days ago.Before I started calling I had to pee so I did and I did call in and shot a coyote. It snowed that night and those coyote tracks were not there. The coyote tracks go inside where I cleared the snow where I sat. This is fairly common and always puts a grin on my face when I see it. That is what I like about hunting in the snow,the tracks in the snow always tell a story. 
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on February 26, 2010, 01:51 PM:
Did they hike their legs and pee over yours?
David Cadieux wrote that Texas trappers would set traps at gate posts where the ranchers had a habit of relieving themselves when they got out of the truck to open the gate.
Posted by JohnLK (Member # 1978) on February 26, 2010, 02:53 PM:
I have seen at times where they haved pee'd or sat down and one time where a coyote has laid down where I sat. When some say that after 20min of calling if nothing comes in nothing will just isn't true.
Posted by Okanagan (Member # 870) on February 26, 2010, 05:09 PM:
JohnLK,
Great photo story. I'm sure we'd see a lot more of that if we all hunted snow that showed what coyotes and other critters have been doing.
I've told this before but I had a wolf swing off a road and pee exactly on top of where I'd peed on a hump of snow against a stump. I made my first stop there in late afternoon and noticed what he'd done the next morning when I went by there at dawn. That was in the Canadian Rockies.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on February 26, 2010, 06:49 PM:
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Posted by JohnLK (Member # 1978) on February 26, 2010, 06:59 PM:
Man,I sure am glad that the Moderator's of this forum are starting to come around on the great knowledge I have. I hope I can handle the pressure.LOL.I think I will make up a Pro-Staff decal to put on my Jeep so everyone will know how great I really am.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on February 27, 2010, 08:51 AM:
Rich, I hate to jump in just to correct you, but that book being one of my personal favorites, I hope you don't mind? It's Charles (Chuck) Cadieux.
- DAA
Posted by JohnLK (Member # 1978) on February 27, 2010, 09:53 AM:
All joking and kidding aside,I just thought that it was a neat picture to show.There had been a few times when I was done calling and went for a walkabout around and come back thru 1/2hr later and see a coyote downwind standing of where I was sitting and pee'd.Now when I am done calling this area I will sit in silence for 30 min or more and have had coyotes or bobcat show up. It doesn't work every time. 
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Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on March 01, 2010, 02:22 PM:
Dave senior moment. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by 6mm284 (Member # 1129) on March 02, 2010, 05:25 AM:
Howled a coyote last week that did not respond , but thru tracking it was apparent he came thru my call stand at 4 pm after a 5 mile hike.I had howled at 8 am. We have come to the idea that some coyotes will not come to the call site all day and will wait until evening.Other times have seen coyotes at the abandoned stand 2 t o3 hours after leaving.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 02, 2010, 09:13 AM:
Yes, true, and sometimes they watch you leave and are sniffing around thirty minutes later. I have seen this many times when climbing mountain roads that lead to a mineshaft with nowhere to go but turn around and go back down. There is a very good chance that animals you didn't see on a previous stand are wandering all over the place after you leave. If it is within a hour, I'd say it's deliberate. If eight hours later, I'm not so sure?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 02, 2010, 10:46 AM:
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 02, 2010, 10:56 AM:
Well, you have to remember, these coyotes defend a specific territory, in many cases. While on patrol, or just in the normal course of events, they are likely to follow their nose, and make scent posts. This is what they do, and they may not be aware of what you did the day before, but they may discover what you did or where you were during the night, when they are more active. It can still be accidental stumbling upon your location rather than recalling it from their memory banks and acting on it much later? I don't know that I can support this much inductive reasoning, but they are a remarkable animal, no doubt. To make book on this behavior ½ a day later, as deliberate, (umm, well) I'm just a little skeptical.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on March 02, 2010, 02:48 PM:
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Posted by 6mm284 (Member # 1129) on March 02, 2010, 03:20 PM:
I would also be skeptical on any inductive reasoning on the part of a coyote.This delayed response coyote had to go out of his way to come to the place I had set up and called from. It was not a normal crossing point such as he had been following up to that point. There was no other coyote track activity , it was a very clean location. Now it may just have been coincidence,but I have friends in wildlife services who have mentioned some call reponses are delayed way beyond an hour or two.Since coyotes don't wear watches I am not sure how time is measured in their behaviour. It may be measured or diluted more by distractions thru out the day than by length of time. If a coyote is bedded and hears a call whether he comes in 8 minutes or 8 hours may depend on if the call was the last distraction he experienced when bedding and the first he reponded to after bedding. Doesn't really matter since all is just speculation.
Posted by JohnLK (Member # 1978) on March 02, 2010, 06:14 PM:
Sometimes I think they show up later from calling and sometimes the coyotes just happen to walk by and smell the left over scent and they go check it out. Sometimes it might be just a visual thing they see were I cleared the snow and they go check it out. To add to what TA said.Some places seem to have low coyote activity and if I return and do some howling each time I do. The coyote activity will pick up,based on the tracks I see in the snow. I may be totaly wrong. Pre-howling a stand location for the next day hunt.LOL
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Posted by Baldknobber (Member # 514) on March 02, 2010, 06:48 PM:
Higgins posted a thread a few years ago about when he lived up here in Mo. and also where he is now about calling and then misting the area and leaving and sneaking back and see coyotes. If you type in the words "misting and leaving" it mignt still be in the archives here.
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