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Andy L
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posted July 02, 2010 03:55 PM
Ok, Im playing the Ebay game on a couple of differnt calls. IF I should get a Foxpro, any model, new in box, what kind of warranty does Foxpro have? How do I get the sounds I want on it? Can I download them off the website or do I have to send it in?
Also, what are some of the best sounds? I want a few distress rabbit, bird and mouse type sounds. A couple of crow sounds and a couple of good coon callin sounds.
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Paul Melching
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posted July 02, 2010 04:07 PM
Andy you can download from their website, You do not have to send in the caller. I have had a couple of issues with different fp callers sent them in and had them back in a few days with no charge but initial shipping. They really are first rate with customer service . They never asked for proof of purchase or date of purchase or any hassle ,just get it to them. As much crap that they get deserved or not they are on top of it when it comes to standing by their product.
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Possumal
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posted July 02, 2010 04:09 PM
Andy, you get a 5 year warranty. If you buy your ecaller from A.P.Jones or direct from Foxpro, you get the sounds of your choice. If you are buying a model that plays the 24bit sounds, all of the sounds you pick out of the Mark II library will be 24bit. If the unit you buy does not play 24bit, you would get Mark II sounds that are 16bit. The library is very good with some really good coyote vocals and a good variety of prey species. Coyote Pup Distress 3, Coyote Pair Howling, and Coyote Yodel Howl are good examples of coyote vocalizations. Screamin' Grey Fox and Coyote & Fox Fight are good sounds. You can go to the Foxpro site and click on sounds and listen to small samples. After getting your ecaller, you can add other sounds right off your computer. Hope this helps.
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Andy L
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posted July 02, 2010 04:45 PM
Yep, that helps a lot. Thanks fellers.
I may get one or two coyote vocals. Im not that interested in them. Im not too bad at doing that on my own with my Higgins Howler and was pretty good with my Krusty Krier.
I was told Cal and DAA came up with some good rabbit sounds.
My boys like to crow hunt, so I will get a couple crow sounds. I like to coon call so I will want two or three good coon sounds. I always liked the woodpecker and a couple other bird sounds. The rest can be rabbit as far as Im concerned.
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Cdog911
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posted July 02, 2010 07:32 PM
"I may get one or two coyote vocals. Im not that interested in them. Im not too bad at doing that on my own with my Higgins Howler and was pretty good with my Krusty Krier."
Trust me, Andy. No matter how good you are with a howler, the coyotes are better and you'll be glad you have some top end coyote vocals that will produce when nothing else can. How they can tell the difference, no one can say for sure. But, they sure as heck can.
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posted July 02, 2010 09:26 PM
I have had good luck with Racoon fight and young racoon distress.
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Randy Roede
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posted July 03, 2010 10:04 AM
Andy, who slipped you the KoolAid???
"Be all you can be own a WT"
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posted July 03, 2010 11:40 AM
The keep smilin and wavin crowd is starting to pay attention to companies looking to push the enevlope in E caller design and function, hence him wanting to drink the kool aide instead of sour lemonaide. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Yes you can add any sound vis your own home computer as long as it is a FP sound or mps or converted wave file you can put it on your FP caller. I would look at the CS-24 great caller, ton of features, awsome volume and clarity and great remote.
Check out the sound liabrary as it is top notch and any sound with a letter in front of the number is very high end stuff.
But even those not in the mark II are all 100% real animal sounds all of the recorded mouth call sounds are now free of charge. You can not beat the price per sound for such high quaility either. You pick and choose pay online and in a little while you get them in your email send them to the FP sound liabrary and download them very quick and easy. Then with the new TX 500 remote download them to the remote in any order you choose, the program is easy to use even for those with less than top notch computer skills, watch the demo on the FP site do it a few times and no problems.
PM me if you need any help with sounds. I have used many that work really well.
Hey Randy any word when ol' Bill is going to open up the WT system to allow other sounds to be added by the consumer???? ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
It shouldn't be that hard and he can;t worry too much seeings how he has been sellin sounds to a few products in the low price point in e callers.
Cass creek has them now and flextone brand all running the wt sounds as well. I hope coyotes don't get wise to them or peope will have to start shellin out 60.00 for 6 new and improved ATOM only sounds LOL.
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Andy L
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posted July 03, 2010 04:29 PM
Ive been doin my homework and talking to many sources. Foxpros customer service has not been questioned at all. Everyone had great things to say.
I did have one person raise one interesting question that made me think. It seems that everyone that owns a Foxpro seems to know a lot about their customer service. Do the damn things break down weekly or what?
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posted July 03, 2010 04:43 PM
Andy, there are a lot more Foxpro owners than any other brand by a large margin. From the simplest service issue to something more important, they will treat you right and do it quickly. I use an ecaller hard about 6 months of the year and have never had to return one for a service problem. You can rest assured that you will be treated right. I believe you will find other Foxpro owners to be helpful answering your questions too. Get you a CS-24 and never look back.
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Andy L
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posted July 03, 2010 05:51 PM
I believe you Al. That was just kinda seein if I could get a rise out of anyone. Either their not reading tonight or they aint bitin. LOL
I gotta throw this in just for contrast. I dont know if yall remember, but I helped a close friend of mine buy a call last fall, I think it was. He decided on a WT and got one of the first Atoms off the line. As with any new product, you will have bugs.
Cuss the man all you want, but Bill stood up and took care of my buddy. When he got it, almost immediately he had a problem. Bill owned up to it and said he had discovered the problem after he sent it out. My buddy sent it back and in a few days he had the unit back. Not long after, he had another problem. He called Bill and he said he knew what it was and could be fixed at home. The next day UPS knocked at the door with the part and he called Bill to walk him through it and got it fixed. Not a sigle problem since. And, he said Bill was a great guy to talk to and even talked his leg off every time he called.
Love him or hate him, Bill Martz is obviously a stand up guy with great customer service as well. Im saying this not only so yall know, but so I wont think I have logged on to PMS by accident with all the Dillon leg humpin goin on here.
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posted July 03, 2010 07:10 PM
andy that must be the new BIll or one looking to start the product off on the right foot?
I had issues with his older model caller and it was all user fault period. Maybe he is finally figuring out that he has to have great customer service if he wants to compete at all with the other call makers who have outstanding CS!!!!!
I just got sick of listening to how it was all my fault and my method of use with that old cob job machine.
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posted July 03, 2010 08:07 PM
So Leonard... how much did FoxPro and PM pay ya for the site?
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posted July 03, 2010 09:56 PM
You know, all 3 of the FP's I've had went back to the shop for repairs, all were the latest and greatest models with minor bugs. The Minaska I had went back several times after the "upgrade". I've had 3 JS callers and not counting the speaker wires that broke, gave incredible service but were low on the tech side. The one remote I had sucked, plain and simple.
But the CS24 has been the best caller I've used so far. I'm sure the WT it was patterned after worked just as well. But it will take a major improvement for me to trade off my CS24.
And yes, FP CS is great to work with.
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R.Shaw
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posted July 04, 2010 07:29 AM
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Andy
Guess I must have missed this BS while I was gone so went back to the 223 thread. It was plain to see several people agreed with this way of thinking. You know....kinda like ugly people proclaiming beauty is only skin deep. LOL
You guys got it right. I shoot a bigger caliber to make up for my lack-luster shooting abilities. Spot on.
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Andy L
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posted July 04, 2010 08:49 AM
I know you can shoot Shaw. Whats your reason?
Edit, I had plumb forgot about that statement. You gotta admit that that is true for a lot of folks. They need to be able to hit em in the ass and still get them down. There are exceptions and your one of them. Just curious why you need a bigger caliber?
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Andy L
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posted July 04, 2010 09:07 AM
Ok, I got a question here. From what you guys said, the CS 24 that almost everyone recommends, is patterened after a WT? That makes sense. All the other foxpros look like a flashlight. So, if the FP is copied off a WT, why does the FP cost more than the new WT? I heard people bitch and raise hell for years about how expensive the WT was, now they are making a call that is almost identical and the FP costs more. WTF?
Do you think its the advertising? I mean, you cant turn on a huntin show without FP having half the commercials. Every magazine is full of adds. I have yet to see a WT advertisment.
Im hope I dont stir the nest too much, but from what I know from a close friend about customer service and now WT making a call cheaper, ***** a lot of product all by word of mouth. How come no one recommends the WT? Im just curious. Its the only call I havent heard since I started asking questions.
One more thing. I talked to a guy yesterday that buys every call that comes on the market and tests it persnally. He was very high on the CS 24, except one thing. the "lambchop remote" is what he called it. He said it was heavy and difficult to carry. He also said it was hard to program and confusing to use in the heat of action. Has anyone else had this problem?
Ive changed my mind. Im not looking for a bare bones call. Im going to buy a good one that will hopefully last many years. Thanks again for answering my questions. I just want to get it right and as I said before, this seems to be a good off season discussion anyway. Better than estrus chirps. LOL
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posted July 04, 2010 09:14 AM
Krusty calling me out? I deserve it, sucking up to Foxpro. Haven't heard a word from them anyway. No new package on my doorstep, except that book from AR. (thank you)
Good hunting. LB
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posted July 04, 2010 09:37 AM
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Ive changed my mind. Im not looking for a bare bones call. Im going to buy a good one that will hopefully last many years.
Scorpion...
Edit: This looks like a newer version of the one I have. My model holds up to 200 sounds, and has the TX200 remote. The ad for this one says 50 sounds, perhaps programmable to 200?
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=155689
Edit II: Yep...up to 200 sounds, and the Foxbang feature is included. Not bad at the Midway price.
http://www.gofoxpro.com/products/digital_calls/product_x1b.php
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posted July 04, 2010 09:48 AM
Ok as far as the WT units go, is the MA-15 and MA-21 the only models available ? I just looked at Bill's site and that all I noticed.
Seems like I've heard of other models, I think ? maybe it doesn't matter and the Atom is the way to go ? Not that I'm pushing FP out of the way.
As mentioned I'm new to all this electronic caller stuff..
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posted July 04, 2010 10:44 AM
CS24 is as good as it gets today.
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posted July 04, 2010 10:50 AM
I shoot a 22/250 Ackley. Basically a Swift without the headaches. The fur damage is acceptable at almost all ranges. The reasons....
Even coyotes that approach to under a 100 yards sometimes present odd angles, thin shots, brush to shoot through,or maybe not much to shoot at in the first place. I want to be able to take that shot with confidence.
In some areas,under certain circumstances all coyotes will not approach to that magical 100 yard range, stop and present that perfect broadside shot.
Night hunting.
I only shoot one gun for coyotes and do not want to handicap myself with a cartridge that is marginal Sometimes you just have to take what the coyote gives you.
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posted July 04, 2010 10:51 AM
edit....double post
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Andy L
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posted July 04, 2010 12:33 PM
Kinda like I posted in the 223 conversation about using a 300 Win for whitetails. For those marginal shots that something smaller might not put em down.
I know you and Q and a few others that stretch fur get away with the 22-250 and the Swift, but I dont know how? I havent worked with them too much, maybe thats the reason, but every one I shot with those were blowed to hell on the exit. Im sure as with everthing its the bullet and velocity are just right.
Im surprised more guys didnt get pissed about that comment. LOL
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posted July 04, 2010 01:04 PM
Andy, the CS-24 is built around a 10W TOA speaker but that is the only similarity between it and WT. It is fully programmable, has a great remote control, ten presets, and more. I realize this post is about the subject, but I'll just have to risk that.
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