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Tim Behle
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posted December 21, 2006 07:53 PM
I don't want to crap up a good thread with my off centered questions. But you guys are really getting my mind working in the other howling thread.
I've heard it said in other threads that a coyote may respond to howls up to 17 hours later.
What percentage of coyotes do you feel will respond by coming in to the location a howl was given with in say a 24 hour period of time? How close will they get to the location that was howled? Stand on it? 10 yards, 25 yards, 100 yards? How much does urine pay a part in getting them in to that location?
Just for easy math. Let's say that I let out a lone howl. 2 coyotes vocally responded to me, but 10 heard me. How many of those coyotes could I expect to have come into the general area that I howled in, with in the next 24 hours?
Is there a better type of howl that I could make to get more of the coyotes that heard me, come in to investigate?
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JD
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posted December 21, 2006 08:25 PM
Very interesting.
17 to 24hrs would be a fairly long stand for me so I`m gonna have to wait for the replys from those who know. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Leonard
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posted December 21, 2006 08:52 PM
Might I politely inquire as to the identity of the authority making this claim?
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I've heard it said in other threads that a coyote may respond to howls up to 17 hours later.
Good hunting. LB
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Tim Behle
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posted December 21, 2006 09:08 PM
It was the good Professor himself, when talking about responses gotten while tracking those radio collared coyotes with GPS.
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Kokopelli
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posted December 22, 2006 07:46 AM
Uh, Tim.......am I detecting a 'gathering to the gang-set' plan here??
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Melvin
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posted December 22, 2006 08:23 AM
Kokopelli,Thats the place to use the "Muster Call"The call is used to announce a feast.
Really tho,that is a good question up there and i would like to hear some of the answeres.
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Rich
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posted December 22, 2006 08:25 AM
"Uh, Tim.......am I detecting a 'gathering to the gang-set' plan here??"
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There is no doubt in my mind that setting a couple of traps at location you just howled from would be productive.
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Tim Behle
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posted December 22, 2006 08:55 AM
I've got a tank about 100 yards off of a coyote travelway. I made a few sets around it, but nothing has been worked. I would have bet that they would have detoured to it from time to time for a drink, but so far not a set has been worked.
I'm getting ready to run my traps, I'll play some howls from the tank and see if my luck changes. It can't hurt, I'm planning on moving them tomorrow anyway.
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Rich Higgins
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posted December 22, 2006 11:52 AM
Tim, I'm convinced that if you broadcast howls within territory that it will be investigated.
How soon they come in seems to depend on their security levels, the location of the broadcast and the time of year. It did take three collared coyotes 17 hours to investigate the location of our calling stand in Idaho. They spent about ten minutes in that exact location which means, I'm sure, that they were hiking their legs on every bush that the mist settled on. I've seen that many times. Sometimes they will sneak in before I leave and begin sniffing and peeing where the mist has settled.
Earlier this month we checked out a windmill in the Kansas settlement after dark. No tracks anywhere, old scat in the dirt road. I squirted a stream of mist on the corner posts and on a pile of scat, howled and left. We returned at dawn and there were fresh tracks at each corner post and in the road surrounding the scat. Seems like a good draw for the trapper.
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Tim Behle
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posted December 22, 2006 01:25 PM
What kind of howls did you use? Group, lonesome, young pup? Did you howl until you got a vocal response, or just make a couple of howls, then leave?
How come you keep driving down here to hunt, but never stop in to say hello?
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Rich Higgins
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posted December 22, 2006 01:56 PM
Tim, I just blew a very long, very loud lone howl and left. I rarely get a vocal response to lonehowls , but I always expect an approach response to them. The best locator howls are the group yip-howls. The Coyote Locator Johnny Stewart tape that you should have for your 512 is a recording of a group yip-howl.
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Rich Higgins
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posted December 22, 2006 01:59 PM
Tim, we were there for the world hunt. Run and gun dark to dark. No time for fun things like visiting with you since you live at least an hour away from there, don't you?
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Tim Behle
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posted December 22, 2006 03:08 PM
About 45 minutes, depending on who drives. But I'd have given you a free place to sleep, and a hot free supper and Breakfast. And you would have only been 45 minutes from where you had left off. Besides, Joyce doesn't bite, just Mike ( and he has BIG teeth ), but I'd put him away if I knew you were coming.
I took my 512 out this morning, and I think the battery has finally bit the dust. I took it off of the charger when I left, and it was already dead when I got to the tank. I'm recharging it now while the Generator runs, as a last ditch effort. ( Some batteries don't like being charged from solar inverters )
This morning, I made a few lonesome howls on my JS dawg caller, then a few minutes later did a few did a few Ki-yi's and whines.
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