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Topic: Which Howler?
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Rich
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posted January 12, 2006 07:28 PM
Brad,
Just like Larry the cable guy I will "Get er' Done". ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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TOM64
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posted January 12, 2006 07:58 PM
What about the critr call song dog? Any suggestions for it?
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Melvin
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posted January 12, 2006 11:19 PM
Tom,the song dog is a good call.For many it seems to be little harder to master than the other crit'r calls.
You could try what i use to do and it makes a big difference.Fit it in a cow or buffalo horn.If you don't have access to a cow or buffalo horn,go to one of the auto supply shops and buy yourself one of those long slender oil funnels.Cut off just enough for the call to go inside snug.You will be surprised how good that call will sound.(for a dollar,its worth it)Don't forget to cut the other end off too.LOL..A total of 8" or 10" long,should do the trick.
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Tim Behle
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posted January 13, 2006 05:06 AM
The best howler I've ever owned is one of Rich Cronk's horn howlers.
I "Lost" it for a year, and the wind, sun and rain sure did an ugly trick to the outside. But it still plays beautifully. Easy to use and it sounds great!
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TOM64
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posted January 13, 2006 05:07 AM
Melvin, thank you sir. I will try that, I have "talked" back and forth with a few coyotes but they don't come in unless I do a whine of some kind. I have got them to come to me using a sceery howler but I gave that away to a friend. I also have a power howler that does ok however howling is something I really want to work on.
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Leonard
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posted January 13, 2006 08:18 AM
I will make a prediction.
Howling is the one segment that has the most potential, for calling. It's not that well understood.
If we ever figure it out, that's going to be a good thing; as Martha Stewart, (Gerald's mom) might say.
Good hunting. LB
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Rich Higgins
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posted January 14, 2006 07:30 AM
Brent Saxton just released his video "Hunting in the East". He demonstrates howling techniques, demonstrates several different types of howlers, commercial and custom, including a Cronk and his own , a KEE Howler which is just like mine without the jewelry.
Brent is probably the best howler I have ever heard.
He shows a couple of howl offs with real coyotes, entertaining while demonstrating his prowess with his howler.
Anyone interested in hearing good howling technique and what it sounds like with different howlers should get this video.
Rich, you should get the video to see what you're up against in your upcoming howling contest with Brent.
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Rich
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posted January 14, 2006 08:52 AM
Rich Higgins,
I have no doubt about Brent's ability. Everything he knows was taught to him by you and I. I didn't teach him everything I know. Did you? Oh man,that ain't nice of me to say.
Lord, I apologize for that right there. Please be with the starving pygmy's down there in Africa--Amen.
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Rich Higgins
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posted January 14, 2006 09:01 AM
Rich, sometimes you crack me up. I like you. LOL
You are a knowledgeable and gifted caller/howler and you may be as good as Brent.
But Rich, you're taking an open reed up against a KeeKee Howler. That's like taking a knife to a gun fight.
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Leonard
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posted January 14, 2006 09:13 AM
Blue Collar Comedy Tour rides again. I don't care who you are, that's funny!
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Rich
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posted January 14, 2006 09:24 AM
Guns don't kill people, hubands who come home early do. If I spell a word wrong, can I blame it on my pencil?
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brad h
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posted January 14, 2006 10:42 AM
"I just shot him, the bullets and the fall killed him."
Collateral
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canine
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posted January 16, 2006 07:48 PM
Another open reed versus latex howler thread! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
The best way to hear for ones self is to buy the video and hear for yourself. The realism you get from one of the latex howlers is awesome. I've used both kinds and from experience, can say,
you'll be amazed at the authenticity of the latex howler.
JD
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2dogs
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posted January 17, 2006 07:09 AM
Very nice, Rich ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Leonard
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posted January 17, 2006 09:28 AM
Another Ford/Chevy deal.
I listened to Rich Cronk's sound right now, it's very good. I am sure I coudn't do better.
I have and use both types. I do think the Higgins Howler which has a latex reed, produces more mellow tones, if that is the right word. Do mellow tones make a difference in response? I doubt it?
As has been said many times, all calls work, just as all fishing lures work. I have seen bad callers manage to call a coyote. Which leads me to believe that sometimes, coyotes aren't very discriminating?
Good hunting. LB
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Rich
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posted January 17, 2006 09:35 AM
Leonard,
You are exactly right. The coyotes are the only judges that really matter.
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scruffy
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posted January 17, 2006 10:18 AM
Rich, do you care if I save some of your howls to my MP3 and test them in the field?
later,
scruffy
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Rich
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posted January 17, 2006 10:25 AM
scruffy,
That would be ok by me. If you shoot me an E mail and let me know what sounds you want, I could send you a few. cronkcalls@aol.com
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Cal Taylor
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posted January 17, 2006 10:43 AM
My reply would be this,
Take Brent or Higgins and latex,
Take Scott Huber and his voice,
Take Cronk and his open reed, and send them in three different directions from the same starting point and see who gets the most replys. My bet would be on Hubers voice howl.
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scruffy
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posted January 17, 2006 10:58 AM
Thanks Rich, I'll send you an email later today or tomorrow (when I can get my email up...)
later,
scruffy
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Leonard
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posted January 17, 2006 11:11 AM
Huber's voice howl? I thought that was a secret?
Good hunting. LB
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EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
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canine
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posted January 17, 2006 11:28 AM
Your right Leonard.. Ford / Chevy debate..lol
I was razzin Mr. Cronk over at PM about this same thing here. I know open reeds work just as well as latex or Scott's voice..lol.. when coyote calling.
How about a soundbite Scott?
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Rich
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posted January 17, 2006 11:38 AM
Leonard,
Well it is sort of a secret, but a few of us know the truth. Cal has probably heard Scott's voice howl and so have I. Cal has not heard MY voice howl yet. I am much better than Scott Huber even. Don't believe me? Just ask the coyotes.
Lord, I apologize for that right up there. Please be with the starving pygmies down there in Africa--Amen
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Rich
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posted January 17, 2006 11:46 AM
I don't have a link to my coyote voice howl, but here is a link to my wolf version.
http://photos.championtannery.com/cronk/RCwolfer.wav
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