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Rich
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Icon 1 posted February 09, 2009 02:50 PM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard,
The toy class HORN speaker on the Fury has a higher amp rating than does the big ole hockin' 10 amp speaker on the WT2030ms. That would account for the Fury's LOUDER volume I suppose?

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TOM64
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Icon 1 posted February 09, 2009 03:04 PM      Profile for TOM64           Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard, all I know is I'm calling coyotes on volume level 20,25 and sometimes 30 out of a 40 max level. I do still have a 10 watt TOA speaker from my Minaska fiasko and it plugs right into the Fury, it's louder than the Fury's speaker. The 24bit sounds sound clean to me but I'm half deaf and still calling them with JS Canine pups downloaded onto the Fury. What do I know?
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TOM64
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Icon 1 posted February 09, 2009 03:27 PM      Profile for TOM64           Edit/Delete Post 
Need to clarify I only used the TOA speaker on one stand. I use the Fury just as it is with only the horn speaker turned on.
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DanS
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Icon 1 posted February 15, 2009 08:13 PM      Profile for DanS           Edit/Delete Post 
I plugged a TOA 10watt speaker into a FX3, and it seemed louder and perhaps slightly clearer than the factory horn speaker.

I have been thinking of just picking up a used FP Scorpion and strapping it to the TOA speaker. Then I can use FP, JS, or my own sounds if I thought my own were any good.

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted February 16, 2009 04:33 AM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
"I have been thinking of just picking up a used FP Scorpion and strapping it to the TOA speaker. Then I can use FP, JS, or my own sounds if I thought my own were any good."
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DanS,
That would make a dandy setup right there. I sometimes use a 15 watt TOA with my scorpion, but now I believe that a 10 watt TOA would be almost as good. It would be lighter for sure, and enough volume for 99 percent of a man's calling needs. I had a 30 watt TOA for my Minaska Bandit, but I sold it because it was too large and cumbersom to carry around. That 30 watt TOA sure would have made a good locator speaker to carry in the truck though. You could break the ear drums of any coyote within three miles. [Big Grin]

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6mm284
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Icon 1 posted March 09, 2009 03:40 AM      Profile for 6mm284           Edit/Delete Post 
Was looking seriously at the WT callers, until I read the impolite response to Rich.As my grandfather said." Some people think their sh t doesnt stink, but their farts give them away."
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Rich
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Icon 1 posted March 09, 2009 05:46 PM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
6mm284,
Don't take those guys THAT serious. The new W.T. 2030MS is a dandy little caller. Bill Martz is severely lacking in people skills but his callers are dandy. Now Leonard? Well he is high on people skills, but real low on handsome. LOL [Big Grin]

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LionHo
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Icon 1 posted March 13, 2009 08:40 PM      Profile for LionHo   Email LionHo         Edit/Delete Post 
Finally, after 6+ years of BS, I see for the first time today a couple of WT product pages that pull the covers on the real-world frequency response of the latest WT's using TOA speakers:

http://www.wildlifetech.com/pages/KAS-2030MM%20product%20page.html

http://www.wildlifetech.com/pages/KAS-2030MS%20product%20page.html

96 bit sound notwithstanding, 12.5KHz is crap. Any high-pitched component to the sound will be completely stripped out.

No wonder they won't stand for anyone loading their own sounds.

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Icon 1 posted March 13, 2009 11:31 PM      Profile for happy trapper           Edit/Delete Post 
All I can say is that if you want to call coyotes & kill coyotes the WT call has the clear sound & enough volume to bring them in from a very long distance.
I myself go on the amount that I call in & kill not on the db or Khz.
I still have the old one that has the bag with the componets in the bag.
Albert & myself Have called in 5 coyotes at one stand this fall & I shot all 5.

Bill Martz just wondering when you & Your son were coming to Saskatchewan Canada again

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Leonard
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Icon 6 posted March 13, 2009 11:44 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Hey? Why don't you let Albert shoot a few? [Smile]

I have to mention here, that I have called thousands of coyotes and hundreds of other critters with a JS512, and furthermore, before that, a hell of a lot of animals with an eight track tape deck.

Good hunting. LB

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TA17Rem
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Icon 1 posted March 14, 2009 10:53 AM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
If you had the WT then Leonard you would of called twice as many... [Razz] [Big Grin]

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted March 14, 2009 01:51 PM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
Tim,

Bill himself told me a number of times, that I could call FIVE TIMES the number of predators with his WT over my JS512.

It's pure bullshit.

The ablility to call more predators, comes through confidence, experience, and Location.

The product that you use to create a sound, isn't nearly as important as picking the right sound to use.

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted March 14, 2009 02:56 PM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
"The ability to call more predators, comes through confidence, experience, and Location."
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Ain't that the gosh awful truth!

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If you call the coyotes in close, you won't NEED a high dollar range finder.

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UTcaller
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Icon 1 posted March 14, 2009 03:15 PM      Profile for UTcaller   Email UTcaller         Edit/Delete Post 
Ditto to what Tim B. Said.....

The sounds the caller makes are down the list as far as priority goes, whether it be hand calls,tape players,eight track,blades of grass,lip squeaks,or the latest greatest digital caller out there.

Tim listed the top three priorities that equal success(more coyotes called and killed): confidence, experience, and Location.I would also add "Time" to the list.The more time you have to invest the more you will call/kill I guess it goes right along with experience.....

Good Hunting Chad

[ March 14, 2009, 03:20 PM: Message edited by: UTcaller ]

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happy trapper
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Icon 1 posted March 15, 2009 12:50 AM      Profile for happy trapper           Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard the coyotes were just inside the bush & I could see them & Albert could not see them as good.

I started calling with a JS the 12D battery box cassette machine & I got a few but not as many as now.

It is true (The more time in the field meanes the more you should learn.)

I have watched as coyotes have stoped coming in and just started to nose around and when you changed the sound they would come running in again.

I have noticed the time that the posts were posted and I thought that you should be calling coyotes but then I forgot that some of you can hunt at night. HEE HEE HEE

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Icon 1 posted March 15, 2009 10:17 AM      Profile for Bofire   Author's Homepage   Email Bofire         Edit/Delete Post 
Hey guys how do those speakers compare to the SP 55 foxpro? It is 15 watt. I run it with my scorpian. fits in a little bag with teh caller, real handy. seems loud and clear to me.
Carl

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted March 18, 2009 06:20 AM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
Bofire,
The SP-55 is a good speaker, but I like the TOA better. The only down side to a TOA is that the metal horn clangs like a bell when you bump it on a small tree or something on the way to your stand. I would like to cover my TOA with spray on truck bed liner or something.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 18, 2009 10:27 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Rich, (dad gum it) if you hold it over your head while rotating, you won't be bumping it on small trees.

KIDS, THESE DAYS!

Good hunting. LB

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Paul Melching
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Icon 1 posted March 18, 2009 11:28 AM      Profile for Paul Melching           Edit/Delete Post 
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Bofire,
The SP-55 is a good speaker, but I like the TOA better. The only down side to a TOA is that the metal horn clangs like a bell when you bump it on a small tree or something on the way to your stand. I would like to cover my TOA with spray on truck bed liner or something.

Rich
quick cure , split some ruubber tubing and put it around the rim of the horn. no more clang

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted March 18, 2009 05:05 PM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
"Rich
quick cure , split some rubber tubing and put it around the rim of the horn. no more clang"
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Great tip there Paul, thanks.

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted March 18, 2009 05:10 PM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
"Rich, (dad gum it) if you hold it over your head while rotating, you won't be bumping it on small trees."
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That is true Leonard, but then again I would rather CALL coyotes than spook em. I heard a rumor awhile back that some guy up north did that, but I didn't believe it for a second. [Wink]

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TA17Rem
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Icon 1 posted March 18, 2009 09:26 PM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
That is true Leonard, but then again I would rather CALL coyotes than spook em. I heard a rumor awhile back that some guy up north did that, but I didn't believe it for a second.
Yes he does and the coyotes still came in.. [Razz] [Razz]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 18, 2009 11:03 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
So, it's not true that AR Shaw picked the spots for the stands and "Unknown" set you down where you wouldn't be in the way? (that's one version)

And, coyotes are totally uncallable in Minneesota, right?

Good hunting. LB (just kidding, Tim)

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Yeah Leonard... totally uncallable. [Wink]

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quote:
So, it's not true that AR Shaw picked the spots for the stands and "Unknown" set you down where you wouldn't be in the way? (that's one version)

I'm not sure about that LB, I believe their modus operandi is to force people to hunt with out a license.

Maintain

Oh yeah, just kidding Tim!

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