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Author Topic: A few new calls Krustyklimber prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee Member # 72 posted February 03, 2006 11:17 AM                    Work has been slow (bad weather), duck season is over , so I got to catchin' up on my calls list. Lion Ho recieved his call a while back, it's a small ind ian plumwood call (a tree that's indigenous to the northwest). It's made in the design inspired by my brother Red, and Keekee, the tiny call (just a little bit longer). Hopefully the kitties down his way will like it. Norm asked next, but I never heard back from him on the mesquite wood. How 'bout you Tim, can you get me some mesquite wood? Vic? Andy was up after Norm, and I have his call done too. Also plumwood, but in the ultra mag howler style, and unlike most all of my calls set up with a single reed (instead of a double stack). Whenever I am asked for the best sounding wood I can get, I choose this plum. It also is very pretty, the up close detail of the grain and especially the end grain is really nice. I am able to use the outer wood on some calls (like these) to make a lighter "underbelly" like a coyote has. It's very strong wood, and lets me make the bell very thin, adding a rich tone to the call. Scruffy, You don't have one of the calls I make? You will soon, send me your shipping address, I've got a cherrywood ultra mag that needs a home. I didn't picture it yet, because it's not all the way dry, and the finish came out way too shiny for my taste. NASA was the next to go on the list. When he first got some calls from me he liked the "bone" color of the hazelwood I used. I had some holly and it's also got the bonelike quality, with a much showier grain (up close) than the hazel. This should make a great replacement for the one he lost in the woods, with the addition of a lanyard groove and a lanyard, hopefully, this one won't get lost too. I'll try to remember to toss a lanyard in with everybody's call. Krusty P.S. On the finish... Lion Ho's call came out okay, a nice satin like it's supposed to be. Andy's doesn't have polyurethane, just the natural (clear) oil stain I have been using to seal the calls (by dunking them in it). I switched to a fast dry poly, from the wipe on poly I used to use. I'm on my way to get a new can of the wipe on poly now. NASA's call has been hand rubbed with some fine steel wool to break the finish (but will probably get a new coat of poly). [ February 03, 2006, 11:25 AM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ] -------------------- Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that! Posts: 1912 | From: Deep in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged scruffy Knows what it's all about Member # 725 posted February 03, 2006 11:37 AM                   Email sent Krusty!!!! I can't say thank you enough! Those are some very nice calls pictured! And I've never used or heard a stacked reed call before, I'm anxious to hear it! later, scruffy -------------------- Git R Done Posts: 361 | From: south central Iowa | Registered: Nov 2005  |  IP: Logged brad h Knows what it's all about Member # 57 posted February 03, 2006 06:44 PM                    Very nice, K. BTW, I think I read here you moved? If your shipping addy changed I'll need the updated version soon. Brad Posts: 346 | From: Glendive MT | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Krustyklimber prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee Member # 72 posted February 03, 2006 07:07 PM                    Scruffy, It's my pleasure. Besides, what else am I going to do with all these calls? Brad, Thanks. I haven't moved, yet. We were planning on it, but that deal fell through. I'll be here, whenever you need anything. Krusty -------------------- Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that! Posts: 1912 | From: Deep in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Tim Behle Administrator MacNeal Sector Member # 209 posted February 03, 2006 07:45 PM                       How much do you want? -------------------- Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass kickin'. Posts: 3160 | From: Five Miles East of Vic, AZ | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged TheHuntedOne Knows what it's all about Member # 623 posted February 04, 2006 04:40 AM                       Krusty, those are some of the prettiest calls I have seen yet. You are a craftsman. Amazing what you do without a lathe. Keep it up buddy. Al THO Game Calls -------------------- The On Line Resource For Custom Call Makers THO Game Calls Posts: 266 | From: New Hampshire | Registered: Mar 2005  |  IP: Logged Krustyklimber prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee Member # 72 posted February 04, 2006 06:15 PM                    Tim, I'll take what I can get. The chunk I got from Vic was about the size of my fore arm, something about that size would be awesome. Let me know what you'd want in return. Al, Thanks. Krusty -------------------- Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that! Posts: 1912 | From: Deep in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Doggitter Knows what it's all about Member # 489 posted February 04, 2006 10:44 PM                    Krusty, how is Chinquapin for calls? There quite a bit in our part of the world. Madrone too but that's a real tough wood when it's dried. Posts: 273 | From: Oregon rain forest | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged Tim Behle Administrator MacNeal Sector Member # 209 posted February 05, 2006 10:09 AM                       How about Walnut? Can it get too dry? I've got a piece that's been sitting out in the shed for the last five years. -------------------- Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass kickin'. Posts: 3160 | From: Five Miles East of Vic, AZ | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged Krustyklimber prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee Member # 72 posted February 05, 2006 10:33 AM                    Loren, I've never heard of chinquapin? A google search lead me to some answers though. Chinquapin, also spelled chinkapin and pronounced like this spelling, is an oak tree, mostly types of yellow oak. Our region is home to the giant chinquapin, one of the original residents of the live oak prairies that used to dominate the lowland landscape. It was difficult to find anything relating to the workability of the wood, but I did find where it has been used for... paneling, tool handles, furniture, novelties (that's us, I think ), and fuel wood. I haven't used any madrone either, but if my memory serves me correctly, I think I remember seeing someone else use some. Both woods sound tough, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Are we going somewhere with this? Yeah, I'd be glad to give either wood a try, as long as you're willing to give a call (or two) a good home. Krusty -------------------- Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that! Posts: 1912 | From: Deep in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Andy L HI, I'M THE NEW MODERATOR OF THE CENTRAL MISSOURI FORUM, PULL MY FINGER! Member # 642 posted February 05, 2006 10:38 AM                   Hey Krusty, I have been on the road again, and leaving again tomorrow for a few days. I hope Im not too late. Thanks a million!! Thats a great looking call. I guess if you posted your email, I missed it. If you could, email me at plaughlin001@charter.net and I will get back with you. Let me know how much and where to send it. Thanks again. Thats a good lookin call for sure. Andy -------------------- Andy Posts: 2645 | From: Central Missouri | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 05, 2006 10:46 AM                       I worked two different companies with ol' Vic. A good guy. Me and him pretty much ran the place but one time we had a huge black walnut tree cut down to make room for a structure. Beautiful crotch pieces; I could have made a couple hundred handgun grips and for sure (at least) one fabulous rifle stock. Well, I was hording that stuff behind the building for years when I happened to be back there for some reason and it was all gone! So, I asked Vic. Nobody else even knew it was there. So, he says; yeah, I took it home for the fireplace, it's all gone! And, Vic is a shooter, Marine Corps, he should have known better, but he didn't. That broke my heart, right there....bang/flop. Generally, they dry hardwood in kilns to a small percentage of moisture. There is a theoretical ideal percentage, around 5%(?) but I don't think you could leave a piece for a number of years and have all the moisture out of it, there is always some humidity in the air and wood acts like a sponge, exposed to water vapor. You might as well send that piece to K, Tim. Miss Joyce says you won't do any woodworking around the house? Oh, I have another one. I again horded some beautiful "Honduran" mahogany above my garage. This stuff doesn't look anything like Phillipine mahogany, it has figure and looks more like walnut and is very hard. Same old story, one day I'm up in the rafters and, (whoa) where's my mahogany? When I asked Junior about it, turns out he had hauled it to various places in the neighborhood; "a long time ago" was the precise term he used, but he couldn't recall exactly WHY? Use it or lose it, Tim. Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Doggitter Knows what it's all about Member # 489 posted February 05, 2006 12:03 PM                    There are versions of oak that have no leaf resemblance to the common oaks? The Chinquapin I know of has a leaf that's very spike shaped, puts out seed pods similar to the chestnut, spiny cover. The wood has a real beauty to it with varying colors in some samples. I'll get a piece rounded up. I'd be willing to trade samples. Posts: 273 | From: Oregon rain forest | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged Krustyklimber prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee Member # 72 posted February 05, 2006 12:17 PM                    Andy, I figured you were off chasin' bad guys, good luck with the next one. I'll send you an e-mail, because I have a couple questions, but the details are pretty simple. You send me your shipping address and I send you a call, I am not asking for anything in return (other than you use the call, when you can, or give it to someone who will). Loren, One of the subspecies is called the yellow swamp chestnut, and both the oaks and the chestnuts are part of the magnolia family group. So it doesn't suprise me it might share characteristics of both it's relatives. Shoot me an e-mail, when you're ready to, and I'll let you know where to send it. Krusty [ February 05, 2006, 12:29 PM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ] -------------------- Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that! Posts: 1912 | From: Deep in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 05, 2006 12:18 PM                       We have a native tree, here in southern California called a "scrub oak". They can get pretty big. Talk about the shape of leaves. Back in Minnesota, oak leaves are large and with a lot of "tabs" on the sides, what else they might be called, I haven't a clue? But, our scrub oak has leaves like holly, with sharp spines that can stick you real good. I have no idea of the grain structure, or anything else about it, but in general, oak is not a very attractive wood. Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Melvin Knows what it's all about Member # 634 posted February 05, 2006 01:04 PM                    I have some walnut that is over a hundred years old and it is in good shape. I also have some wood over 300 years old.It came from an old log cabin,dating back to the 1700's.I found an old gun lock,in between some logs "Percussion cap" Looks to take much larger caps,than the standard percussion cap rifles. The lock is still in working order.No research on it'yet.One old fella told me the lock was made,"during the civil war?" Krusty,this log is hand hewn,i will check and see how much "good wood" i can get out of it. [Won't be for a while]"maybe" we can make a deal? Lot of worm holes in it[maybe wormy chestnut?] Posts: 661 | From: PA. | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Doggitter Knows what it's all about Member # 489 posted February 05, 2006 07:00 PM                    Ok, this looks quite close to what I know of. http://plants.usda.gov/java/largeImage?imageID=chchc4_004_avp.tif This links shows an oak variant, complete with acorns. Definitely not what I'm refering to. http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/forestry/Education/ohiotrees/oakchinquapin.htm ....still researching. Good pic of the leaves and seed pod I remember here. http://waynesword.palomar.edu/images/chinqu1b.jpg Looks like the Western or Golden Chinquapin most resembles what I know of this tree. The growth boundries match, soil types match, available pics match, description of the seed pods match... [ February 05, 2006, 07:30 PM: Message edited by: Doggitter ] Posts: 273 | From: Oregon rain forest | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged Tim Behle Administrator MacNeal Sector Member # 209 posted February 06, 2006 07:02 PM                       Krusty, I found a nice piece for you, but I can't bring myself to cut it. -------------------- Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass kickin'. Posts: 3160 | From: Five Miles East of Vic, AZ | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 06, 2006 07:36 PM                       Tim, where the heck are you "surfing" to find that stuff? -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Krustyklimber prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee Member # 72 posted February 06, 2006 08:40 PM                    Tim, I missed your question about the walnut. Walnut I can get, for a lot less than the shipping would probably cost, Arizona mesquite is another story. Maybe one of the other call makers, closer to you, could put the walnut to use? Very interesting picture. I doubt I could cut it down either... don't mess with Mother Nature, ya know? Somebody should put a game-cam on that thing, come spring. Krusty -------------------- Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that! Posts: 1912 | From: Deep in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Melvin Knows what it's all about Member # 634 posted February 06, 2006 10:51 PM                    Does everybody get to sit at"The Grand Buffet!" Posts: 661 | From: PA. | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged RedRabbit Knows what it's all about Member # 796 posted February 07, 2006 07:58 AM                    Interesting tree, what is that? Naughty pine. I bet it will give some kind of wood. Posts: 241 | From: SE IDAHO | Registered: Jan 2006  |  IP: Logged Krustyklimber prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee Member # 72 posted February 07, 2006 07:56 PM                    Scruffy, Here's your picture; I showed it with a single reed, because that's where I start. When I like the way it plays, I then make the topreed to give it that special sound. I'm kinda suprised you haven't tried/heard a double-stacked reed call yet, I'm not the only guy using them. I believe we'll see a production call with that feature, before long. *Note: You can always (carefully) lift up the topreed, and use it like a single reed call, especially for coyote vocalizations (which can begin and end sorta "duckishly" with the double-stack), which makes sense, I learned it from my duck calls (P.S. Olt in particular). Brad, I been thinkin' about it... what you really need updated, is your old Krusty Kriers call. Got any scaps of really cool wood that don't want to be turned on a lathe? Tim, I got a really nice piece of english walnut, almost made into a call, when it's done you want it? Redrabbit, "Naughty pine" you are too funny! How 'bout you, you live anywhere around the Burley/City of Rocks neighborhood? Krusty -------------------- Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that! Posts: 1912 | From: Deep in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged scruffy Knows what it's all about Member # 725 posted February 08, 2006 07:28 AM                   Krusty, the call looks awesome!!! I can't wait to get it out on stand and call some stuff in! I love the shape and size and I'm sure I'll love the sound. Thanks again Krusty! And I'm sure I'll have some pics for your photo page. later, scruffy -------------------- Git R Done Posts: 361 | From: south central Iowa | Registered: Nov 2005  |  IP: Logged Tim Behle Administrator MacNeal Sector Member # 209 posted February 09, 2006 10:43 AM                       Naw, I've always been a sucker for a fairy tale ending. All I want is to see a picture of you holding up a coyote that you killed. Sound fair? Edit: I can't spell [ February 09, 2006, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: Tim Behle ] -------------------- Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass kickin'. Posts: 3160 | From: Five Miles East of Vic, AZ | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged

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