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Cat hunter1
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Icon 9 posted May 02, 2005 03:26 PM      Profile for Cat hunter1   Email Cat hunter1         Edit/Delete Post 
Just bought my wife new 17. I'm having problums with the scope. I can't get the scope cross hairs to go down for enough to use. At 20yrds aiming at a target the bullet hits about 18 inches below target. How can I fix the proublum? I've tried 4 different scopes same thing on each one HELP!!!

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Melvin
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Icon 1 posted May 02, 2005 04:03 PM      Profile for Melvin   Email Melvin         Edit/Delete Post 
It may be your scope mounts...is your base mount a one or 2 peice?If its not the mounts then you may have to use shims under the rear mount,use brass shims if you can get them.I would check your screws in your front locking lug and check rear screw to..gun may not be bedded in stock properly.check all before trying a shim.
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Jack Roberts
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Icon 1 posted May 02, 2005 06:51 PM      Profile for Jack Roberts   Email Jack Roberts         Edit/Delete Post 
You do realize that the markings on the scope refer to which direction you want the bullet to move? I am not trying to be a smart alec but have seen a lot of people misunderstand the directions. This is especially true of people familiar with european sights as the european sights are marked the opposite of US sights.

If that is not the trouble, you probably have the wrong bases for the rifle.

Jack

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Cat hunter1
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Icon 1 posted May 02, 2005 07:18 PM      Profile for Cat hunter1   Email Cat hunter1         Edit/Delete Post 
They are 2 piece mounts. The scope is a bushnel 3x9x32 they came with the scope there is no room to put any shims under it, it almost touches the barrel. What bases would you recamend? Thanks for any help guys.

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted May 02, 2005 08:42 PM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
Take an old pair of scissors ( Ask your wife for a pair to be safe ) and cut up a beer can into strips, so that it will fit just inside of the rear base. Between the bottom of the scope and the base. If one strip of aluminum doesn't add enough add a second.

Any chance they sold you a set of tapered bases and you have them reversed?

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 02, 2005 11:27 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
What gun are we talking about? What bases? Bases might have a number stamped on the underside, like 700 or 98, etc. What it sounds like is that you have a mismatched set, rear base too low or the front base too high?

Good hunting. LB

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Icon 1 posted May 03, 2005 05:56 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
In addition to all the other possiblities mentioned, if all else fails, look to see that the barrel isn't cocked. Not very common, but it does happen.

- DAA

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Melvin
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Icon 1 posted May 03, 2005 09:23 AM      Profile for Melvin   Email Melvin         Edit/Delete Post 
I don't like to repeat the question Lenoard asked but we need the answere before trying to give you our best idea of solving the problem.Who made the gun?Rem.,Win.,Rugar?.I prefer Rem.or Redfield solid base dove tail mounts.Before i would decide to possibly changing mounts i would check as asked above,are the mounts on backwards?
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Icon 1 posted May 03, 2005 09:29 AM      Profile for Melvin   Email Melvin         Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry i meant Leoupold or Redfield Mounts.Don't know if Remington makes them [Confused]
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Cat hunter1
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Icon 1 posted May 03, 2005 06:43 PM      Profile for Cat hunter1   Email Cat hunter1         Edit/Delete Post 
The gun is a Savage Arms Mod# 93R17 FV 17HMR Bolt Action. The scope is a Bushnell Airgun/Rifle Scope Mod# BU-RS-720039 it came with the bases. I'll change them tonight and bore sight it and see if it is on target, now it is about half way on bore sighter. If that dosen't work I try shimming it. If that dosen't work I'll try another brand of rings/bases. My wife wanted the gun for Bobcats,Coyotes and ground chucks.

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Icon 1 posted May 04, 2005 08:39 AM      Profile for varmit hunter   Email varmit hunter         Edit/Delete Post 
Use Burris Signature offset rings. They can be adjusted to correct for 20 minutes of angle. Plus in my opinion they are the best rings available other than the heavy custom rings.

Ronnie

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Cat hunter1
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Icon 1 posted May 12, 2005 07:26 PM      Profile for Cat hunter1   Email Cat hunter1         Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks that sounds like what we need. Where can we get them?

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Icon 1 posted May 12, 2005 07:44 PM      Profile for varmit hunter   Email varmit hunter         Edit/Delete Post 
www.midwayusa.com. brownnells. www.bearbasin.com

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted May 12, 2005 09:25 PM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
If you want better rings than the Burris Signature Zee style rings, Then you'd better be ready to cough up $200-300, for the customs.

Badger Ordinance makes some great rings, I just can't bring myself to spend $250+ for a pair of them.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 12, 2005 10:13 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Since the rifle in question is not exactly a cannon, Badger Ordinance rings might not be needed.

Good hunting. LB

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Melvin
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Icon 1 posted May 13, 2005 08:55 AM      Profile for Melvin   Email Melvin         Edit/Delete Post 
Come on guys...You would have him pay more for the bases than he paid for the gun!...LOL
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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 13, 2005 10:39 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
That's sort of what I was thinking. Used to be a rule of thumb to pay as much for a scope as for the rifle. Now, these rich guys down in AZ suggest that we need to spend as much on the rings (alone) as on the rifle!

Wow, remember when a pack of gum cost a nickle?

The first new vehicle I ever bought was a 1969 Datsun pick up for $1,830.00. I bought a new 1971 Dodge Charger (wish I still had it) which cost me about $3,300, as I recall?

I don't remember how much I paid for the first Leupold scope I ever owned, but it couldn't have been more than a hundred dollars? I do remember that I sold it at least 10 years later for $95 dollars. That guy is still using it. Never should have done it. I have sold many scopes and the only one I don't regret was a 6X18 Redfield.

My advice, buy good quality scopes and never sell them. (I'm learning to follow my own advice) Man! I have sold some perfectly good scopes for peanuts!

Good hunting. LB

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted May 13, 2005 11:13 AM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
You guys missed my point.

The Burris rings are great, and reasonably priced. I was saying that the only way to get better rings than the Burris Signature Zee rings, you were going to have to spend some mega bucks.

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I speak Behleze and I understood you Tim.
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Melvin
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Icon 1 posted May 13, 2005 07:51 PM      Profile for Melvin   Email Melvin         Edit/Delete Post 
Nope, i don't think Tim would tell the man to pay that kind of money"unless he had more money than he knowed what to do with!"for scope mounts...Just talking about"Wish we had mounts."...Mega Bucks!!Where art thou?
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Leonard
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Icon 6 posted May 13, 2005 09:20 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Confession. I didn't miss your point, Tim. Just messing with ya.

Good hunting. LB

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varmit hunter
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Icon 1 posted May 14, 2005 11:32 AM      Profile for varmit hunter   Email varmit hunter         Edit/Delete Post 
Somehow I thought that's what I said on my original post. Burris are big bucks.

What the hell. I at least know what Tim and I are saying are maybee it's time for more meds.

Ronnie

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