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DanS
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Icon 1 posted February 29, 2008 07:23 PM      Profile for DanS           Edit/Delete Post 
I have a Browning Gold 12 ga, and I want to shoot some #4 buckshot out of this thing. I believe the Brownings are backbored so I guess that throws a different unknown into the works.

Anyone shoot this, or got some good ideas?

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted March 02, 2008 11:32 AM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
Dan,
Take a look at the Buck Kicker Xfull http://www.kicks-ind.com/ASP/buckkicker.asp

This tube shoots good patterns with lead BB , Lean #4 Buck and Dead Coyote T's. Be sure to pattern your gun before taking it hunting though.

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted March 02, 2008 07:18 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Before you go out and drop serious coin on a specialty tube, you may want to sit down with beverage and think on your average shot distances. If most of your shots are in the 20 to 30 yard range, a plain old full choke that you likely already have should work. 30 to plus 40; yeah, it's time for a tube that patterns tight. If you're trying for coyotes with a shotgun out to 60 & 70 yards, you may want to consider a Mini-14 instead.

One thing to consider; as the pattern tightens up, the shotgun goes from a 'point & shoot' weapon to a 'aim & shoot' weapon.

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Aznative
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Icon 1 posted March 04, 2008 06:28 PM      Profile for Aznative           Edit/Delete Post 
Try test patterns with the tubes you already own before you spend any money on more. I know of one individual that found he got the best patterns with #4 buck with a modified choke in a Bennelli. This person is Gary McCraw who was 1/3 partner in the video Maximum Predator Control. I cannot be positive about this but I believe he mentions this in a lenghthy piece of side footage that comes with this video. I frequent a gunshop that Gary works at and he has told me this in person.
Try it with what you already have and go from there first.
Good Luck

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K. Griffin
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Icon 1 posted March 18, 2008 07:00 PM      Profile for K. Griffin           Edit/Delete Post 
Hi DanS and others,

I'm in the same situation...brand new Browning Gold 3.5, 24" barrel. I patterned the Hevi-Shot with the Xtreme Turkey that came with the gun and at 30yds, ~ 10 pellets in 30" circle. An older Invector Plus, full choke offered about 15 pellets. A little disappointing.

I will try the modified during the coming weekend, but curious as to what DanS finds out.

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JoeF
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Icon 1 posted March 18, 2008 09:13 PM      Profile for JoeF   Email JoeF         Edit/Delete Post 
Shotgun barrels are fickle animals. I have an 870 with a modified barrel(fixed choke) that patterns tighter than any other barrel and choke combination I've ever tried. That holds true only if you are shooting shot sizes larger than #4 (not #4 buck).
I bought the gun at a time when the thought of coyote hunting with a shotgun was about as foreign to me as the thought of voting for Hilary so I never really patterned it with large shot.

I found out how tight it patterned the first year we were forced to use steel shot for waterfowl. One of the guys in the blind with me had crippled a duck and it was setting on the water at about 55-60 yards out. The other three guys in the blind with me emptied their guns on the thing with no apparent effect. I pulled up and shot and completely ragged the duck. I don't think that I'd be exaggerating if I said that my pattern was only about 1/4-1/3 as wide as the other guns.
One of the other guns was a full choke and one an identical 870.

Put some #4 buck in that gun and it works good. You could even make a fairly strong argument that it is a bit too tight for some shotgun applications.

Moral of the story - try some of your more open chokes before you spend a gob on the premium ones.

[ March 18, 2008, 09:16 PM: Message edited by: JoeF ]

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K. Griffin
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Icon 1 posted March 20, 2008 05:34 AM      Profile for K. Griffin           Edit/Delete Post 
Hi JoeF,

I've read the Invector Plus choke FAQ's and they indicate that Hevi-Shot should be treated as steel shot. If this is the case, the modified will provide a full choke pattern. Your advice seems 'spot-on' in regards to changing to more open choke. Go'n to try this out over the weekend. Thx.

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DanS
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Icon 1 posted March 23, 2008 07:58 PM      Profile for DanS           Edit/Delete Post 
Damn, that buckshot is some expensive stuff...
I about fell over looking at prices for the hevi shot and others.

I got a load for some #4 now and will be trying out some reloads. I did pattern out a few chokes. They will work out to 40 yards, so that should work for me.

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Icon 1 posted March 23, 2008 09:06 PM      Profile for Az-Hunter           Edit/Delete Post 
#4 buck ehh....a little big for those Mo bobwhites ain't it?
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DanS
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Icon 1 posted March 25, 2008 07:28 PM      Profile for DanS           Edit/Delete Post 
#4 on Bobwhite's, [Smile] those things are like gold around here. Besides I have to use my 20ga on something to justify it.

Out in your neighborhood, I was tempted to use a darn pellet rifle on 'em, seemed like they were everywhere, running on the ground.

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