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Author Topic: Gun for dogs INDIANADOGCALLER PAKMAN Member # 472 posted December 13, 2004 02:27 PM                   I recently had my guns stolen. I had a Savage Model 112 .22-250. Looking for another .22-250. Should I stay with the Savage? Loved the way mine shot. Someone got themselves a shooter.... I like the looks of the Remington 700 VLS. Anyone know how they shoot. Is the trigger easy to adjust? Any other suggestions. Need to stay in that price range. Posts: 8 | From: Indiana | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted December 13, 2004 03:28 PM                       For the money, there is not much to choose, I'm thinking Howa and Savage, but an ADL Remington is also right in the same ballpark. Personally, never owned a Savage...at least for very long. Actually, I did own a Model 110 in 22-250 many many years ago. Excellent firearm. I don't know? As far as I'm concerned, if I was looking for a Factory rifle, a Remington would be my first choice, even over Sako or Cooper or Kimber, but in those cases, it would be VALUE. BTW, Welcome to the New Huntmasters, INDIANADOGCALLER. Glad to have you on board. Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31449 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged INDIANADOGCALLER PAKMAN Member # 472 posted December 13, 2004 04:48 PM                   Thanks. The Savage I had was a long action. I'm having trouble finding another long action in .22-250. Some people have had trouble with short action Savages ejecting shells. I saw a Remington 700 Varmit LS the other day and was impressed by the look and feel of it. Was wondering if I should expect the same dime sized and smaller groups out of the box with hand loads. My dad had a model 788, also got stolen, and it shot virtually the same groups with the same loads as my Savage. Is the trigger easily adjustable on a model 700? Posts: 8 | From: Indiana | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged GUTPILE Knows what it's all about Member # 448 posted December 13, 2004 07:17 PM                   A friend of mine adjusted my 700 trigger. He said it's only 3 screws. I don't have a clue because my wife won't let me play with sharp things. I have the 700 Varmint Remington in 223. It's a tack driver. But it's very heavy. Bull barrel etc. I love my 22-250 in the T/C Encore 26" bull barrel. Another fabulous gun I own. I have a $1000 in each though, but they are keepers. -------------------- Guns have two enemies: RUST & POLITICIANS. TOO FEW PEOPLE MAKE TOO MANY DECISIONS FOR TOO MANY PEOPLE Posts: 132 | From: Curlew Wa | Registered: Nov 2004  |  IP: Logged Tim Behle Administrator MacNeal Sector Member # 209 posted December 13, 2004 07:59 PM                       Model 700 triggers are extremely adjustable. Provided you are patient and take your time. If you don't have a few hours free, don't start fooling with it. It is not something that you want to start, then stop with the intention of getting back to it "Later" Here is a link to one of the best explanations I have ever found to adjust a Remington Trigger Take note of the disclaimer at the top of his page. Adjusting triggers is not something that should be done by the ignorant or inept. If people often refer to you as "Stupid" prove them wrong by taking your rifle to the local gunsmith. For those who possess some mechanical ability, adjusting the trigger takes only a few minutes, and you should have it by the second or third attempt. I try to adjust mine just a little heavier than I want it to feel. But the time I get it put back together, and out to the range. It seems to work out just right. Tim -------------------- Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass kickin'. Posts: 3160 | From: Five Miles East of Vic, AZ | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged Jrbhunter PAYS ATTENsION TO deTAIL Member # 459 posted December 14, 2004 03:45 AM                      Hey Indy, sorry to hear about your guns! Dang theives. I have the Savage as well and love it to death. I wouldn't be too concerned about the short action, I know of several short action Savage's and have never heard of the problem you've described with casing extraction. Savage is my personal preference no matter the price... if Browning made a heavy barrel rifle I may have a new favorite but until then I'm sticking with the Savage. Glad to see you on the board Indy, what area of Indiana are you from? Posts: 615 | From: Indiana | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged MaBell PAKMAN Member # 470 posted December 14, 2004 06:36 AM                    Indy,,, I am also sorry to hear about your guns being stolen, that's a real kick in the butt. Most of the Savage's I have had anything to do with have been real shooters. The only short coming I have found with their rifles is the barrels seem to shootout faster than others. But before they do, they shoot like a house-a-fire. My current 22/250 is a Ruger M77 Target, and I'm very pleased with it. I also have a Remington VS in .308 that shoots in the .3-.5 range and I have no complaints with it. Buy what fits you and your pocket book, and then enjoy it. Cheers, MaBell [ December 14, 2004, 06:38 AM: Message edited by: MaBell ] -------------------- It ain't that hard to hit them,,, It's just so darned easy to miss. Posts: 3 | From: Colorado | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged INDIANADOGCALLER PAKMAN Member # 472 posted December 14, 2004 12:30 PM                   Thanks for all the info. The weight on the Remington doesn't worry to much. My Savage was a heavy barrel and I liked the stability enough to put up carrying the weight. I'm still trying to decide what to go with. I can't decide if I want something that looks and shoots good, or something that just shoots good. The Remington 700 VLS looks good, and appeared to be rugged enough to stand up to the abuse of predator hunting..... JRBHUNTER- I'm from the west central part of the state...... Posts: 8 | From: Indiana | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged Jrbhunter PAYS ATTENsION TO deTAIL Member # 459 posted December 15, 2004 03:22 AM                      Good deal Indy, I am headed up your way soon. I am hunting Terre Haute and Sullivan on Christmas eve. I plan on killing all your coyotes in a one day hunting trip... when I return I will let you know if you even need to buy a new rifle! LOL! Posts: 615 | From: Indiana | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged INDIANADOGCALLER PAKMAN Member # 472 posted December 21, 2004 12:38 PM                   I ended up going with the Remington 700 VLS. Looks and feels great. Anyone have any suggestions on a hand load. My Savage shot 55 gr. Sierra BTHP great. The results aren't as good with this one. I shot Hornandy 55 gr. VX factory loads just trying to find something so I don't miss any hunting this weekend. These shoot excellent for factory loads, about dime sized group at 100 yards. Anyone had any luck handloading these bullets? Also, is it worth messing with the trigger or should I get an aftermarket? Any suggestions on a good one? Posts: 8 | From: Indiana | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted December 21, 2004 02:19 PM                       Good choice. On a previous post, Tim gave you good advice on the trigger. The Remington 700 has a very good trigger, you just have to get it how you like it. First, of course, you need to understand how the sear and overtravel work. They are somewhat integral. Typically, you can safely get them as light as 1¼ pounds. Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31449 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged 22-250 Knows what it's all about Member # 36 posted December 21, 2004 09:04 PM                   I really like the Savage 24F. In my small opinion it a great coyote gun. The 223 is not the 22-250 but the 12 ga. under makes up for the under size 223. The 12 has save my butt a lot. Surprising how a 24 pounds animal can get so close without being seen. It would not be my choice for 300 yard calling, but for the desert, it great. Just my small opinion. -------------------- The coyote is a living, breathing allegory of Want. He is always hungry. He is always poor, out of luck and friendless. The meanest creatures despise him and even the flea would desert him for a velocipede. Posts: 108 | From: Longview, Texas, glad to be gone | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Jack Roberts Knows what it's all about Member # 13 posted December 21, 2004 10:05 PM                    The bullshit is getting a bit deep here. Dime sized groups at 100 yards and dissatified with them with factory ammo. Oh! a box stock factory rifle also. I might have been born at night but it wasn't last night. Jack Posts: 499 | From: Elko NV formerly MD | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted December 21, 2004 10:11 PM                       Heck yeah, Jack. I hear ya. If a gun can't keep three under a dime, send it back. Right? Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31449 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Tim Behle Administrator MacNeal Sector Member # 209 posted December 22, 2004 06:03 AM                       Jack, There's a fellow over on trapperman who declared last night that he and his two buddies have killed 176 coyotes in the last two years, shooting the 17HMR, and never lost one It's been all I could do for the last day to tell him to start turning them loose from the trap before he shoots them, and see how many he looses then. -------------------- Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass kickin'. Posts: 3160 | From: Five Miles East of Vic, AZ | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged Jrbhunter PAYS ATTENsION TO deTAIL Member # 459 posted December 22, 2004 06:14 AM                      I'm already on that case Tim, he's already backed his story down once or twice! I was going to ask if he is shooting them in traps but he referenced various ranges so I assumed he was calling them... then he "varified" that in his next post. Man I love those guys, what would the internet be without em'? When did we start using dimes instead of asprin? You guys must shoot freehand. [ December 22, 2004, 06:15 AM: Message edited by: Jrbhunter ] Posts: 615 | From: Indiana | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged INDIANADOGCALLER PAKMAN Member # 472 posted December 22, 2004 06:07 PM                   I didn't say I was dis-satisfied with the groups from the Hornady ammo, I would just like to know if anyone has had any luck handloading these bullets. It gets a might pricey paying 18-20 bucks per 20 rounds buying factory ammo. Jrb.... Any snow down your way yet? Posts: 8 | From: Indiana | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged Jrbhunter PAYS ATTENsION TO deTAIL Member # 459 posted December 28, 2004 03:52 AM                      Gonna Hi-Jack away here since this is INDY's thread anyways.... I guess this is a little overdue now, but anyways, yeah I'm walking through 34 inches of snow to get to my truck and back at the house. The driveway is plowed 5-6' deep (State plows knocked it closed from the main road) so I haven't even touched that... I'm driving through a hayfield out back and coming into the back yard. Pretty bad when a soupy field with 34 inches of snow on it is more navigable than your DRIVEWAY! I got out just before the storm hit... it was only 8-10 inches deep when I headed north and hunted up in Indy and Terre Haute. They only had about 12" of snow up that way... here are some pictures! CORYDON: 12/22/04 (Buried Conibear) TERRE HAUTE: 12/24/04 (Hunting with hounds) CORYDON: 12/25/04 (Calling in RiverBottoms) Posts: 615 | From: Indiana | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged

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