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Topic: Best AR platform for predators?
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Cranky Farmer
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posted August 11, 2008 10:24 PM
There are a ton of new calibers available out there for AR's. What do you think is the best one for predators?
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DanS
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posted August 12, 2008 02:08 PM
For factory chambered AR's, I'd go with a 204 or 223. 223 would still be cheaper to shoot.
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TA17Rem
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posted August 12, 2008 02:12 PM
243 or 308 win.
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Paul Melching
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posted August 12, 2008 02:14 PM
I'm currently playing with a .204 I'll let ya know if it works out. so far bolt guns are looking good.
Paul
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Cranky Farmer
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posted August 12, 2008 03:32 PM
I just recently completed a 6 x 45 build which I will start using this fall. I am shooting 55 Nosler's through it. If I were going to ever build another it would be a toss up between a 17 Remington and a 6.5.
If I went with an AR-10 I think a 260 Remington would be fantastic.
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DanS
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posted August 12, 2008 04:30 PM
I had pretty good luck with Sierra 60 HP's and I think H322 in my AR15 6x45. Noveske contoured it pretty light, simular to the M16A1 contour.
I hardly ever use it, I may have to dig it out and start shooting it again.
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MULE
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posted August 12, 2008 09:12 PM
I'm with TA
A AR in 243
But last I knew the only one was Armalite and they wanted more than I wanted to pay for one
I have a AR bushy in 5,56
A Cetme
A Armalite 180B
AK47
Those are defensive weapons to me. I have thousands of rounds. All FMJ
Give me a AR 15 platform in 243 or 22-250 with a 18 inch barrel and I'll try it for hunting
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Leonard
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posted August 12, 2008 09:19 PM
Best AR platform for predators sounds like a contradiction in terms, if you want my opinion.
Good hunting. LB
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Cranky Farmer
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posted August 12, 2008 09:32 PM
Thanks for your contribution, LB.
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TOM64
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posted August 13, 2008 01:21 PM
I have 5 AR's all in .223/5.56 they just seem to work for me.
My cousin has one in 204 and one in 17 Rem he's gonna play with but I'm not tempted.
Leonard, they may not be for everyone but they work for me. I use carbines though, can't stand heavy varmint type AR's.
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posted August 13, 2008 04:34 PM
one of my ar15s is chambered in .243wssm I load my own since they only seem to factory load 50 or 95 grain bullets I prefer the 70grain nosler works great on lions.
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Paul Melching
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posted August 13, 2008 07:17 PM
Took the .204 to the range this afternoon,
.75 " group at 100 yds with 32 gr v-max 28 gr. benchmark,best so far still havent been able to find the 35 gr. bergers at any place close.guess I'll end up at cabelas but thats damn near in Ca.
Maybe I'll keep it.
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Az-Hunter
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posted August 13, 2008 09:51 PM
Ditto what Leonard opined....maybe R Shaw could add some levity to this topic?
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R.Shaw
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posted August 14, 2008 12:59 PM
In my opinion, they were designed to protect yourself and kill men in the process. Usefull when you bust in a door and clear a room.I would assume they would be really handy in a firefight. Slung in the front, they are always ready in these situations.
The ones I shot were not balanced and I felt awkward with it in my hands. I hunt with a few guys who use them and have seen several coyotes escape due to the bolt not being all the way forward? At least that is what I was told.
I blame BS for their popularity.
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Leonard
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posted August 14, 2008 01:08 PM
Yeah, Byron gets it from all sides. Probably jealousy?
Tell you the truth, every time I see a hunter with a black gun, I unconsciously do a little reevaluation. Can't help it. (sorry Cal)
Good hunting. LB
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Az-Hunter
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posted August 14, 2008 02:28 PM
Well put Leonard, I view them with the same jaundiced eye I give the guys, that you can tell dressed "into" their camo, to make a run to Sportsman World or Cabelas....something ain't right with them.....in both instances.
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Paul Melching
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posted August 14, 2008 02:29 PM
I think that so many have them for the cool factor, they look real neat,I had one before There was a BS. They are front heavy fun to shoot neat to look at , but as a hunting tool I keep thinking of my bolt guns as more comfortable definately more accurate just more familar to me in that situation.I would have to spend time deliberately trying to get used to one for regular use. But if a person enjoys one for hunting thats great I have no objections at all .
For me its gonna tke some getting used to.
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Scott F.
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posted August 14, 2008 02:47 PM
Personally I don't spend 2 seconds worrying enough to make a negative comment about the weapon someone else choses to hunt with. That's their business, not mine.
I found the price of .223 ammunition and it's general good performance reasons to buy my to AR-15s in that caliber. I think my new Cavalry Arms AR is a fantastic coyote gun.
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Leonard
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posted August 14, 2008 03:10 PM
Scott, I promise not to reevaluate you for your honesty.
But, you know. Some people don't like certain words, such as yote, or song dog, etc. when refering to coyotes (as in Ky Yotes)
I like to think in terms of sporting arms, and prefer to call them rifles, shotguns and pistols, rather than weapons when used in a hunting context.
Soldiers have a use for a weapon, but I would rather not see sportsmen refer to their firearms as weapons. Semantics.
Good hunting. LB (no offense!)
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Dan Carey
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posted August 14, 2008 03:58 PM
I agree, a rifle or shotgun is used to kill or end the life of a poor hungry defenseless little animal.
A weapon is used to defend yourself against the attack from a poor hungry defenseless little animal. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Leonard
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posted August 14, 2008 04:24 PM
ah, nice spin. thx
edit: hey, how can you be in two places at once?
[ August 14, 2008, 04:24 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
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Dan Carey
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posted August 14, 2008 04:44 PM
I have 2 puters..I'm like sh1t, I'm everywhere.
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posted August 14, 2008 06:09 PM
No need to apologize to me Leonard. I never dreamt I'd like the AR like I do. The 223 isn't my cup of tea in any platform, but since I got my .204 it has killed alot of coyotes. I still shoot my bolt gun all summer. My AR is my winter time "truck gun" for the trap line and I used to take it to some contests as long as the partner was carrying a real gun.
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TRnCO
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posted August 14, 2008 06:55 PM
Up until just a few years ago, I never thought I'd ever use an AR. But once I got a chance to borrow my buddys Armalite .243, I was hooked. I don't mind the weight of them, even though I walk further in one day calling coyotes than some guys do in a winter. That Armalite only weighs 10.5#'s, my .204 D-Tech is only 1# lighter. With either of them sitting on shooting sticks, there is no "front heavy" feeling. They are as accurate as any of my bolts, and could be more accurate if a better trigger operator was handling them.
I've been with guys that forgot to load thier bolt guns, no different than failing to latch an AR. About the same out come.
The AR platform is not for everyone, but for me, I much prefer them over my bolt guns these days. I do like my .204 better than my buddys .243, probably only because I spent good money on mine, and................it's mine!
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R.Shaw
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posted August 14, 2008 07:12 PM
When I am hunting with a stranger, I am doing a lot of evaluating. I'm looking at everything from what rifle he is carrying to how much gunk is under his fingernails. Helps me answer some questions.
Do I walk in front to the stand without his bullets in my pocket or do I trust the bolt isn't in battery, so it dont make no difference anyways?
Do I square-up on every coyote that shows or do I let the other guy do his job?
Do I hand him a knife to skin or do I just say screw-it and do it myself?
Call me old-school, but there is just something about carharts and a bolt gun that lets me breath a little easier.
Randy
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