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yotecaller
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Icon 1 posted July 07, 2003 05:42 PM      Profile for yotecaller   Email yotecaller         Edit/Delete Post 
I like to use my 222 Rem the most but I also like my Browning 12 gauge when calling in alot of brush.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted July 07, 2003 06:49 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Hmmm. Okay, I use, in decending order:

22-250 Ackley
220 Swift
6mm Remington
25'06 Ackley
12 gauge
22-250 Rem.
243 Win.
308 Win.
223 Rem.

Most guys I know, around here use 22-250, 220, 243 or a 6mm. Those would definitely be the top four, followed by the 25'06.

Good hunting. LB

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BillfMO
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Icon 1 posted July 07, 2003 07:09 PM      Profile for BillfMO   Email BillfMO         Edit/Delete Post 
I have used 22 mag's to 25-06's in rifles. But because I try to be fur friendy I like to stay on the lower end. If I am calling where I think there is fox and season is open I like to use the 22 mag and try to keep shots under 100 yds and like 50 better for a coyote. For coyote only calling I used a 22-250 last year, but this spring I got an AR 15 which will most likely be the gun of choice this next fall and winter. Over the years I have most likely killed more coyote with a shotgun than any other one type of gun. I would most like be ahead if that is all I carried but can't seem to leave the rifle in the truck so that is what I usally have in my hand on the stand.

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Icon 1 posted July 07, 2003 07:32 PM      Profile for Rob   Email Rob         Edit/Delete Post 
243

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Icon 1 posted July 07, 2003 07:59 PM      Profile for Hawkeye   Email Hawkeye         Edit/Delete Post 
Have mainly used 22-250 have tried 22mag,17rem,223,243,and 12guage found the 22-250 to be plenty adequate have made shot at 410 yds and several approaching 400 yds Im planning on skinning this season so Im gonna give 17 rem another try
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Icon 1 posted July 07, 2003 08:09 PM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
Most of my coyotes are taken with a 17 Remington. But I also will use a .223 rifle or a handgun or shotgun from time to time. It just depends on my mood when getting ready to walk out the door, or the terrain I happen to be calling in.

I used a 22-250 on several coyotes last year, I slowed them down quite a bit and you couldn't tell any difference between them and those hit with the 17.

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Icon 1 posted July 07, 2003 08:56 PM      Profile for Az-Hunter           Edit/Delete Post 
I use four main rifles for calling, a 17 Rem,17 Ackley hornet,22 hornet and the least used a .223.

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Icon 1 posted July 08, 2003 07:50 AM      Profile for Cal Taylor   Email Cal Taylor         Edit/Delete Post 
Most used to least used.

.243

.220 Swift

.25-284

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[ July 08, 2003, 12:17 PM: Message edited by: varmit hunter ]

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Icon 1 posted July 09, 2003 08:45 AM      Profile for UTcaller   Email UTcaller         Edit/Delete Post 
I have used and loved my 22-250 for many years,and many coyotes have fallen with this gun.I should have my 223 ackley in a couple weeks so I am going to use it this year,hope it works as well as my 22-250.GOOD HUNTING CO

[ July 09, 2003, 05:03 PM: Message edited by: UTcaller ]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted July 09, 2003 05:22 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I'm thinking of something, and I don't quite know how to present it.

See, on the one hand, I agree with a lot of attitudes and methods and opinions of a certain dude. On the other hand, we are so far away when it comes to proper coyote rifles that it's beyond belief.

Consider:

one guy uses:

22-250 Ackley
220 Swift
6mm Remington
25'06 Ackley

and the other guy uses:

17 Rem,17 Ackley hornet,22 hornet and the least used a .223.

The only point of agreement is that we both listed a 223 as a last choice.

But that's a world of difference! What's going on, here? [Smile]

Good hunting. LB

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Icon 1 posted July 16, 2003 09:40 AM      Profile for Chucker223   Email Chucker223         Edit/Delete Post 
A savage in .223. I hope to upgrade to a .223 AI soon.

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BillfMO
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Icon 1 posted July 16, 2003 10:32 AM      Profile for BillfMO   Email BillfMO         Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard we seem to disagree on not only what type of rifle to shoot but also on the caliber to use also. Again I think it has to do with where we hunt. I place the 223 in the same class as the straight 22-250 & 220 Swift, I see you use the Ackley, but even that makes no difference out to the 200-250 yd range which is what I think the 223 is. Some say 300 yds but I think that is pushing it alittle, you can make the 300 yd shot but it needs hold over with most sight-ins for that caliber. Myself I place the 22-250 and Swift in the 300-350 yd range rifle, again without hold over. If I had to fight the wind I would most likely move up the the 243 which I have used and like just makes a little bigger hole. I have never owned a 6mm but have heard good things and it may be a better choice than the 243. The only advantage I see the 17 caliber has it does not exit, you can load the 22 caliber with lead pills that don't exit either. Again myself I don't like to use them because if you hit something hard (bone) they do nothing but make a hole in the skin and maybe crack the bone. Anyway the animal runs off for you never to find. As I have never used the 17's I am assuming what I believe here and may be all wrong (if so it's not the first nor will it be the last time, as I seem to do that quit a bit.) I guess what I am trying to say is here I have no need for a rifle that will shoot more than 250 yds and at most of my stands fall in under 100 yds.

Bill

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted July 16, 2003 04:51 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, we disagree, but I'll get over it.

My standards may be looser in some aspects and a lot more stringent, in others.

I require bang/flop. The 223 fails. Some animals fuss, some move, some need another shot.

A 22-250 or better, you just don't see that stuff. I don't care about exits, it's better than surface splashes. If I hit a bone, I get more damage, but he's always dead; right where I expect him to be.

I cannot predict the range. Some animals are killed inside fifty yards and some are ten times the distance. I won't handicap myself with a marginal cartridge. I prefer heavy bullets and high velocity.

Bill, you may have found the perfect setup for MO, but it will be a cold day before (I) use a 223 on predators. Not when I have superior guns available. [Smile]

Good hunting. LB

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Icon 1 posted July 16, 2003 08:26 PM      Profile for Krustyklimber   Email Krustyklimber         Edit/Delete Post 
35mm...

The only thing I have shot coyotes with is a Canon FTb w/85-205mm zoom lense, with Fuji film.

When I am taking a gun for a walk, it's either a Remington model 722 in .222, or an Armsport 20ga O/U, loaded with a salt and pepper load of #4 buck buffered with reclaimed #2 shot (so after I have had enough of getting skunked hunting coyotes, I can get skunked hunting crows... at least I have fired on them)

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[ July 16, 2003, 08:27 PM: Message edited by: Krustyklimber ]

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Unlike my big game rifles, my predator rifle has been constant. I started off with a 22-250 and seen no reason to change. I have given in on a couple of occasions to different calibers but they have not seen hardly any serious use in the field.

Bill

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I use a Swift mostly (220 Swift for the newbies) LOL. I have killed yotes with every centerfire I have from 17Rem to 300's. The best gun is what ever I have in the hands at that present time. Did I say I really like the Swift??? [Razz]
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Terry Hunter
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The 6mm is the caliber I use 90% of the time.It will anchor coyotes before they can get into the thick woods.
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Terry, a man of few words! I couldn't agree more. My choice for daylight stands in heavy cover has always been a 6MM Remington. I love it.

Good hunting. LB

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Icon 1 posted July 20, 2003 03:06 PM      Profile for Curt2u   Email Curt2u         Edit/Delete Post 
22-250 and .223 see an even amount of use for me. Only times I've had a problem with the .223 is a couple times trying long shots with a 16", and that was more of a range issue. The only follow up shots I normally have to take is if I just plain miss or the occaisional spinner from a bungled shot that can happen with any caliber. The 24" .223 seems to perform as well as my 22-250. Bang, flop with monotonous regularity.

If I had to pick an all around favorite, I suppose it would be the 22-250 for the type of hunting I do. Then again I've had such consistently good results with my 24" .223 AR the last couple years it is an extremely close runner up. Especially in the multiple target arena. Then it outperforms my 22-250.

12 gauge semi-auto for the woods. Love it!

I really like the 220 Swift too. Plan on getting a replacement for the one I sold.

I use a .270 now and then. It always has performed admirably for me with surprisingly little fur damage.

Jury is still out for me on the .243. Haven't used it enough to accurately comment on it. I know it should knock a coyotes socks off but I've actually had more mixed results with it than any of the above mentioned caliber's. Been so happy with the other caliber's haven't set any time aside to work out the performance problems. I'm sure it will work fine when I do.

.308...the few times I've used it for coyotes it worked very well.

Being an owner and lover of Glock handguns I know what it is like to own a firearm that others either love or hate. For this reason the .17 has always intrigued me somewhat. There are a few guys that just love this cal and do good with it. Others hate it and condemn it as useless. I wish it was offered in more variations than it is. I'd probably get one to try out.

All said and done though, my personal feeling is that coyotes can be killed effectively with any of the caliber's mentioned in this thread (plus a whole bunch more) if the shooter knows his rifle, uses an effective bullet and most importantly, puts the bullet in the kill zone.

Take care, Curt

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Lets see
17 Remington
22-250 Remington
10 Gauge shotgun

For varied conditins.

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Longest shots has been with 270 and 243, bang-flop. However most coyotes have been with 222 and 223- always seemed like plenty of gun, had a few runners gut shot, but chest shots pretty much dropped. I just recieved my Rem 788 back with 6x45 Douglas barrel on it, time will tell how 75-80 grains does at 2700-2900 fps, not shocking but I probably couldn't hit them too far away anyway!!! I agree with Leonard the 6mm is a wonderful cartridge, much easier to reload than 243, used one for years on everything- never a loss, but never shot anything bigger than deer and antelopes with it.
Richard Grantham ps killed several coyotes out of cars with 22 pistol- but its too small really.

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22-250AI.
264 win-mag.
300 RUM
223

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243 with flop'em drop'em bullets. If that ain't enough turn up the heat with 6.5x55 blow'em a new one bullets. Catch and release program.

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Mainly 22-250's here, but occasional use of a ruger1 in 25-06, a .260 Rem and a 264 mag.

Ray
What's your blow him a new one bullet in the 6.5x55? 120's or above or do the lighter bullets do more damage from your point of view? Thanks

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