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albert
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Icon 1 posted January 06, 2004 05:22 PM      Profile for albert   Email albert         Edit/Delete Post 
What is the scoop on tactical type stocks? good bad? seems to me a fair amount of interest in them.

Thanks again

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MJM
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Icon 14 posted January 06, 2004 08:34 PM      Profile for MJM           Edit/Delete Post 
Tactical stocks - I've got 1 actual tactical synthedic stock by MPI and 1 Bench Rest laminated stock that I've modified into a tactical configuration. I like this style very much but it has its limitations and it is somewhat specialized in a real world application.

Basicly, its not a good configuration for most predator hunting applications. Its a little bit big, its a little bit bulky, its a little bit slow for calling.

But if you want a P.D. or woodchuck type stock where accurate long range or rested type shooting is the norm, well then I can't think of a better configuration. After all this is really what the Tactical Configuration is designed for. Fairly serious steady accuracy from a fairly stable position.

Leonard, I've been staying close to the home board but lets face it variety is the spice of life! [Smile]

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Jack Roberts
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Icon 1 posted January 06, 2004 08:40 PM      Profile for Jack Roberts   Email Jack Roberts         Edit/Delete Post 
If you are thinking about that "Ultimate Sniper Stock" from Choyate (sp?), it is a total POS. Very heavy but still as flimsy as a wet noodle in a hurricane. I would not put one on another rifle if they paid me $200 to use it.

Jack

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Rich Higgins
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Icon 1 posted January 07, 2004 05:15 AM            Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Michael, welcome.
I have a Choate Ultimate Sniper on a Rem 700 with Douglas extra heavy 26 in barrel chambered for 22-250AI. The stock is heavy, rigid and strong. I don't know if I was lucky or Jack was unlucky. It will shoot in the 20s on demand, It has shot a 17. Weighs 18 pounds. NOT a carry rifle. Limited use but fun.

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Tim Behle
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Icon 1 posted January 07, 2004 05:45 AM      Profile for Tim Behle   Author's Homepage   Email Tim Behle         Edit/Delete Post 
Michael, Long time no talk to, How've you been?

Albert,

Take a look at the McMillan A5 stock. Everyone I've talked to loves them. I'm probably going to buy one for my next large rifle project.

Tim

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MJM
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Icon 1 posted January 07, 2004 07:11 AM      Profile for MJM           Edit/Delete Post 
My MPI tactical is more than likely a direct copy of the McMillan A2 configuration. I like the fact that this stock works well from the right or left side. The nearly vertical grip and heavily dished palm/thumb area creates a nice neutral grip, at least in my hands.

This is a picture of my rifles ripped off from another board, Tony I hope you don't mind [Smile]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted January 07, 2004 03:42 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Welcome to the New Huntmasters, Michael. Dittos on the long time, no see.

Albert, if it's any sort of conventional carry rifle you are considering, I'd forget about a tactical, unless you get something with an adjustable cheek pad, for a high mounted scope, and even then, it may be heavy and clumsy.

I think the A5 McMillian is one that I have? The underside of the butt is almost straight, and the forearm is extra long? Grip is almost vertical. It's one of those thousand yard stocks.

But, shooting at night, from a rest, I use a standard benchrest McMillian with a three inch wide forearm. I also have a McMillian Winchester Westerner. Now that's a nice configuration for moderately long range shooting.

Good hunting. LB

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tonlocus
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Icon 1 posted January 07, 2004 04:27 PM      Profile for tonlocus   Email tonlocus         Edit/Delete Post 
Hey Michael. I thought that pic looked familiar. I've been meaning to get back down to do another balloon shoot but just can't seem to get it done. Looking forward to seeing you in Globe though.
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Purple220
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Icon 1 posted January 07, 2004 06:01 PM      Profile for Purple220   Email Purple220         Edit/Delete Post 
One of my favorite stocks is McMillans Marksman stock copied from the Winchester Marksman. It is still light enough to get out and carry but has a semi flat forend that rides well in the bags.
Both of these 22BR's sport the Marksman stock. I also have two black stocks on some heavy barreled Swifts.
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DAA
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Icon 1 posted January 07, 2004 06:37 PM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
I like that Win. Marksman pattern too. That, and the Sako Varmint - both are decent enough to carry around, but still nice and stable in the bags as well. For heavier barrels, the Marksman is a better fit, but for medium to medium heavy, that Sako pattern is sweet.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted January 07, 2004 07:27 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, I was wrong about several things. I believe the stock I have on my 25'06 is a Winchester Marksman, don't know why I said westerner?

Also, I looked at that link that Tim provided, and I don't have an A5, at all, I have a Tooley MBR. Decent stock, anyway.

What a retard!

Good hunting. LB

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Jack Roberts
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Icon 1 posted January 07, 2004 09:14 PM      Profile for Jack Roberts   Email Jack Roberts         Edit/Delete Post 
Rich
You sure must have something different from mine. I made it work by using pillars and a 3 stage bedding job in the action area. The forearm is so flimsy I have 1/8" clearance to keep it from hitting the barrel. It is easy to twist the forearm at least 5 degrees. The adjustable point in the rear stock had such loose threads as to be worthless. I had to bore that out and press in an insert with tight threads. The bottom of the forearm is at an angle. The literature says that is so elevation changes can be made. Maybe so, but makes it worthless for shooting from any rest.

I have McMillan stocks that weigh 1/4 of what this does and are orders of magnitude stiffer.

It is by far the absolute worst stock I have ever encountered. The cheap injection molded stocks are at least as stiff, a WHOLE lot lighter, and cheaper.

Jack

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varmit hunter
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Icon 1 posted January 08, 2004 09:01 AM      Profile for varmit hunter   Email varmit hunter         Edit/Delete Post 
A modified H S Precision. Can change barrels in one minute with out any tools.  -

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MJM
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Icon 10 posted January 08, 2004 10:55 AM      Profile for MJM           Edit/Delete Post 
Hey varmit hunter - I hate to break this to you but your rifle is all busted up in peices all over the floor.

Sorry man I just had to do it, nice rifle. I'd love to see the looks on Airport Security's faces when they check that one out, all nicely placed in a form fit carry case. I can hear'em now, "Sir, Exactly what do you use this rifle for?"

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varmit hunter
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Icon 1 posted January 08, 2004 11:20 AM      Profile for varmit hunter   Email varmit hunter         Edit/Delete Post 
MJM, I have had the same thoughts as you about security. I don't fly (Very long story), Buy if I did. I think my new name would be "Detainee". I would probably wind up at GETMO in Cuba.

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