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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 25, 2007, 05:36 PM:
After a vey long wait the pred. has finally come home. Once again SGR custom rifles has done a very good job of building the rifle. The rifles action is a Stiller Pred. action with a 1-9" Lilja barrel chambered in 17 Pred. A Mcmillan Sako hunter stock was used with molded in desert camo. Still waiting for the dies to show up and in the mean time i will make my own brass with some other dies i have laying around. Hopefully this week-end i can break it in and work up some loads..will post some pic's a little later..
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on September 25, 2007, 06:37 PM:
Tim,
Be sure to bring it to the campout, I really want to see one in action!
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on September 25, 2007, 08:11 PM:
Post a picture of the rifle if you get a chance, sounds like it will be a dandy!
Posted by Dusty Hunter (Member # 1031) on September 28, 2007, 08:58 AM:
Tim, I hope you do bring that to the campout. I have a .17Remington that I'm pretty fond of. What you have looks like a .17Remington on steroids. I'll have a few questions for you at the campout.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 28, 2007, 10:17 AM:
Dusty, if possible, can you bring that cage trap we talked about, to the campout? LB
edit: PS, 17 Remington? Oh, right. You are one of those darkside people, huh?
[ September 28, 2007, 10:19 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Norm (Member # 240) on September 28, 2007, 10:50 AM:
Dusty, hopefully that cage trap is big enough to Leonard to sit and sleep in... ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
raining on your choice of weapons...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 28, 2007, 10:59 AM:
I learned my "raining" technique on the knee of your buddy, Norm. A reasonable person might call it raining lite but I would label it, (at the most) playful ribbing.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Norm (Member # 240) on September 28, 2007, 04:02 PM:
no worries LB; I know where you are coming from... i am hoping to trade up the 17 Rem to the 19-223... but I have had the barrel for 2 years now... hopefully this fall I will get to break it in...
Posted by Dusty Hunter (Member # 1031) on September 28, 2007, 04:47 PM:
Leonard, That trap is doing a job in Oregon right now. My brother needed it. Here's a place you can get one. Mine was a 3 or 3A. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0006858220456a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=havahart+trap&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Nt x=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=havahart+trap&noImage=0
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on September 28, 2007, 06:46 PM:
Leonard,
I have one that I can bring you. But mine are the single door type. Will that be OK?
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 29, 2007, 01:15 PM:
Got rained out at work today so i had time to start makeing brass for the pred. I ran the 223 brass through a 223 die to make sure they where straight. Then i outside neck turned the necks and ran the brass through a 17 mach-4 die to get the necks sized down to 17 cal and also move the shoulder down a little. Then i turned the necks one last time to make sure they measured .194 outside dia.. I then ran all 50 case through the chamber of rifle to make sure everything was good to go. Well start loading them tommorrow so they canbe fire formed and gun can get broken in..
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on September 30, 2007, 08:08 AM:
"Then i outside neck turned the necks and ran the brass through a 17 mach-4 die to get the necks sized down to 17 cal and also move the shoulder down a little. "
If you really moved the shoulder with your Mach IV die, then either you don't have a .17 Predator, or you are going to have MASSIVE headspace problems with that brass. The shoulder needs to move up (forward) for the .17P, not down (back). You use the Mach IV die to size only part of the neck, to form a false shoulder to headspace on during fireforming. If you are expecting to use the existing shoulder to fireform, you'll have major problems.
Hopefully you just got your words mixed up. But if not, if you really moved the shoulder, and your rifle is actually a .17P, don't use that brass.
- DAA
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 30, 2007, 09:51 AM:
What i did was continue to screw the die down untill i could get the round to chamber in rifle. Maybe only the neck was changed and not the shoulder not 100% sure without measureing. Anyway the bolt closes with a little bit of pressure and no slack in the bolt...
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 30, 2007, 02:32 PM:
Well i got some brass made and loaded up today and took out to fire-form and do barrel break-in. Looks good and i did'nt loose any fingers or an eye in the process.LOL Here are a few pic's... enjoy.. http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/TA17Rem/IMG_0970.jpg[/IMG]] 
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Posted by Dusty Hunter (Member # 1031) on September 30, 2007, 05:10 PM:
I like it! A thing of beauty and nice shooting.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on September 30, 2007, 05:31 PM:
That'll work.
- DAA
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on September 30, 2007, 07:20 PM:
Doesn't look like that thing will shoot worth a darn, why don't you just give it to me, so you won't have to be embarrased by it! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 30, 2007, 09:29 PM:
I may let you hold onto it at nite while i'm sleeping Tim B. I have'nt had a nights rest since it came home. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by Dusty Hunter (Member # 1031) on October 01, 2007, 09:28 AM:
Hey, Tim B. Take him up on that offer! While he's sleeping, we can be night hunting in Nevada! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by stevecriner (Member # 892) on October 07, 2007, 09:05 PM:
FOlks, LIVE FROM NEW MEXICO!!!!!!
We have witnessed the first kill of the pred! Also the first " Knock him down, get back up, and run like the wind shot!!!
The pred has come home. Oh and there wasnt even blood.
Dont forget to ask TA about it at the campout.
Edit: To say you guys need to ask Geordie and Patrick about there 8 coyote day. It was a heck of a day for them. Just the two of them.
[ October 07, 2007, 09:08 PM: Message edited by: stevecriner ]
Posted by newbomb (Member # 888) on October 09, 2007, 11:18 AM:
Tim's "spinner" got its first kill! Tell him congrats for me Steve.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 15, 2007, 05:43 PM:
Yes the Pred. got the first coyote on the trip at 150 yards, (not sure of exact distance)The coyote was hit with a neck shot and went down clean. The second coyote i shot at was at around 50-60 yards and was hit in the shoulder area, the coyote did go down for a second and was back-up and gone before i could get a finishing shot off. As i stated in a earlier post i did'nt have time to get brass fireformed so i could use a Max charge, instead i had to use fire-form loads that where only putting out around 3750-3800 fps.
I also clicked on an empty chamber on one but i had Randy Shaw there for back-up and he did a very good job of putting the coyote down.. Futher testing willbe done this winter on coyotes with this rifle and cartridge and i will post the results good or bad and let you all be the judge..
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 30, 2007, 04:33 PM:
The first coyote taken with the pred. http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/TA17Rem/DSC00005.jpg[/IMG]] 
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