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Cal Taylor
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posted March 02, 2006 11:17 AM
Here's 15 cats about ready to go. I sold 9 early, so the grand total was 24. I sure wish I had the 9 that I sold still, prices have gone through the roof.
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Leonard
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posted March 02, 2006 12:08 PM
Good deal, Cal. Wow, that one next to you is a monster! Do you average?
Good hunting. LB
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Cal Taylor
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posted March 02, 2006 01:13 PM
Average? I'm not sure of the question Leonard
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Leonard
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posted March 02, 2006 01:25 PM
I mean that some buyers suggest averaging all your pelts and claim you get a better overall price than by grading each pelt separately. I don't know how I feel about it, but getting top dollar for an especially fine specimen is hard to resist. Maybe you don't do it that way, but I'm guessing you have heard of it. What's your take on either method? Better for coyotes than cats?
Good hunting. LB
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Tim Behle
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posted March 02, 2006 02:58 PM
Cal do you ever ship to NAFA or one of the other big houses?
I've sold a lot of coons and rats by Average prices. As long as you have a good idea of what you fur is worth, you are alright doing it that way. But if your idea of what it is worth is to high and you pull it out to take to another buyer, and he won't pay what you want either, you can bet the first buyer will drop his bid when you bring it back.
Selling furs is always a gamble, the only one on your side is your wife, and she ain't buying anything.
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Cal Taylor
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posted March 02, 2006 05:02 PM
The buyers that come around here usually write them down individually. So you may have one cat bring 250 and one bring 475. I figure my average by taking the total divided by the number or cats. This 15 will be going to a fur sale that they have in Kaycee. Several trappers get together and have several buyers there and they place sealed silent bids each lot of cats. High bid wins. I would have liked to save all my cats for that sale, but bills need paid. So far I think that sale will have about 250 cats. I have never sent any fur to the auction houses, but if I don't get what I want at the sale, I may try it. This is a pretty exceptional bunch of cats.
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posted March 02, 2006 07:45 PM
Hey Cal, nice bunch of cats! About how many sq mile area you trapping in to collect those cats? I have seen exactly one bobcat this season? year before I called and shot seven, this year, I cant buy one!
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seeinspots
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posted March 03, 2006 05:42 AM
cal,
very nice bunch of cats. let us know how the action goes, you should do well.
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Cal Taylor
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posted March 03, 2006 06:43 AM
AZ, Its hard to say in sq miles. Most of the land around here is private, and all I trap on is. So I kind of hop around between several ranches that let me trap cats. Alot of ranchers won't let me. They all want some coyotes thinned but some of them say no on cats, and I go elsewhere. I will gladly help them with a few coyotes in exchange for some cat trapping. But acreage wise I have a couple hundred thousand acres, but alot of it doesn't hold cats. I know it's pretty easy to put a couple hundred miles a day on while checking stuff.
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Leonard
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posted March 03, 2006 11:24 AM
So, Cal. Sounds like you are not shooting any of these cats on stand, or rarely?
Should be a nice check. Congratulations, that's a good season in any man's book.
Man, I just have to let my tongue hang out thinking about the potential, with that access; re: night hunting.
Good hunting. LB
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Cal Taylor
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posted March 03, 2006 02:51 PM
I only shot 2 this year Leonard. It's not all that common to call one up here. As for night hunting, legal for coyotes on private, but a big no no for cats. That will land you about a $700 ticket. Or so I have heard. I haven't got one of those tickets and don't intend to. The local warden told me the other day that with cat prices being high, he was writing two or three of those tickets a week. Mostly high school kids.
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Leonard
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posted March 03, 2006 04:18 PM
I know you have no part in it, Cal. But, there is absolutely no good reason for your big no no on night hunting cats. I hate all the worthless, jump through a hoop regulations in various counties and states. Not just night hunting, or fur bearers, or big game. There is many codes and regulations that don't make sense. Even "seasons" on predators, in general, is mostly bogus....in my opinion. They always get together in some back room and decide things based on considerations that mostly escape logic. Big game for non residents in Nevada, but no non resident bobcat hunting, in Nevada. Of course, it never was that way, but now it is.
No night hunting (even coyotes) in Arizona, even though there is no legitimate reason?
Texas, almost anything is legal, and the world has not come to an end because of it.
California; possibly the phonyest law is protecting lions. But, only from legitimate sportsmen. Therefore, all the depredation complaints are handled by contract, paid for by taxpayers.
None of these things make a lick of sense.
Good hunting. LB
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Cal Taylor
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posted March 04, 2006 07:23 AM
I'm with you most of the way Leonard. I actually am kind of glad that they don't allow night hunting of cats here. When prices get like they are, everybody and thier dog would be out night hunting, and I'm not talking about guys that would hunt predators anyway, I mean the "lets grab a couple cases of beer and shoot the shit out of everything" guys. I was talking to a fur buyer the other day and he went and looked at a batch of cats the other day that he suspicioned to be shot at night. 5 or 6 nice cats shot to hell and bloody messes. Then left out for several days and unskinned, and they wanted the "big money" that cats are supposidly worth. He said they were already starting to slip and he wouldn't touch them. So it was a total waste all the way around. [ March 04, 2006, 07:24 AM: Message edited by: Cal Taylor ]
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Leonard
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posted March 04, 2006 07:38 AM
You have made a valid point, I'll grant you that. I hate to always use Utah as an example, but I see a lot of jerks with Utah license plates road hunting in Nevada. Waving a spotlight, shooting at eyes. I like to think my methods are a little more responsible, and professional. It's the same, everywhere. A few dipshits ruin it for everybody else.
Good hunting. LB
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posted March 04, 2006 12:55 PM
Hell Leonard you think you've seen it in Nevada,try being a predator caller in Utah.We have plenty of dipshits here,doing god knows what in the name of Predator hunting,definitely gives Real predator callers a bad name.That's why I don't hunt predators around here much any more.Good Hunting Chad
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Alaska Dave
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posted March 09, 2006 11:24 AM
Real nice pics of your cats. Here in Wi. there is a season on them. You have to put in till they draw your number. Would be nice to be able to hunt somewhere where you have a good chance at calling a cat.
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