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Leonard
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posted June 20, 2006 09:04 AM
*editorial*
You know, it seems to me there is something wrong with this PC world, when we are bending over backwards to cater to every bleeding heart liberal ACLU idiot what wants to prosecute GI's for mistakes within a context of the "Fog of War.
Now, we have these two soldiers that were found beheaded. I think this will lead to another round of (justifiably) trigger happy troops. That's what I'd do.
Then, as sure as night follows day, we will have more assholes calling for a troop pull out. More assholes concerned with terrorists welfare than American Servicemen. What kind of political philosophy cannot condemn brutal beheadings, but these same antiAmerican Americans scream torture when they read a bogus story about flushing the Koran down a toilet.
It's time to start revoking citizenships and sending these protesting assholes to France.
It's also time to take off the velvet gloves. War is war.
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Rich
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posted June 20, 2006 10:05 AM
Leonard,
Although it is interesting to watch the news and see what is happening with the war, I believe that the news media should never be allowed in to military business while we are at war. It seems to me as though the news media does us more harm than good during these times of conflict.
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Andy L
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posted June 20, 2006 10:41 AM
Im with you LB.
I cant for the life of me figure out where the media, save FOX, gets their info. I have talked with many soldiers soon after getting back from Iraq and talk to some that are still there, via email. I get the same thing from every single one. Were doing very good things. The people as a whole love us and what we have done/doing. They are shocked and pissed the first time they turn on CNN. Just cant believe what they are seeing. I dont get it.
As far as some that eroding from wihtin, Im gettin pretty sick of that too. I know of several in particular that need to evacuate the country. They obviously are not happy here and need to go where they will be happier. One of which is my old buddy.
Im sick and friggin tired of the BS.
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posted June 20, 2006 11:53 AM
I had a bad feeling when i first heard about that kidnapping. I just knew the new guy was going to do something dramatic to draw attention to himself. Don't be surprised if a video of the beheadings comes to the surface soon.
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UTcaller
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posted June 20, 2006 12:35 PM
I couldn't agree more Leonard.That's what gets me so pissed on the black board.Liberal thinking bastards.They really believe if we pull out of Iraq,then everything will return to normal(pre 9/11).Complete Idiot mentality if you ask me.The media and liberals are ready to crucify these soldiers before they even finish the investigation.But then the same S.O.B's will turn around and blame Bush and the War happy republicans for the two soldiers murdered and beheaded.Just retarded way of thinking from where I sit.Hunt those Al Qadea Bastards down and take care of business,Collateral damage or not. Bush said it along time ago.There exists an Axis of Evil (Iraq,Iran,and North Korea).And we're taking care of one of them and the other two are trying to get in the spotlite.But do you think the Liberals and the Bias media see's it.Hell no, and they won't until it's to late.That's what scares the hell out of me,getting a liberal Democrat back in the White house.FWIW Good Hunting Chad
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Az-Hunter
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posted June 20, 2006 01:44 PM
Andy; you've been around long enough, to have encountered the kind of people that absolutely have to be the smartest person in the room at a party or whatever.
When your in the KHDs house, you have to remember; it's his party:)
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Leonard
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posted June 20, 2006 01:55 PM
oxymoron, dude. Andy can't forget, you can't forget, and I certainly never forgot. How can anyone forget that brilliance?
It's not so much how smart he is or how much he knows. It's like Reagan said; it's how much he knows that isn't so.
Good hunting. LB
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Andy L
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posted June 20, 2006 02:36 PM
No, I havent forgot...
You know, this is really hard for me. Honestly. I have had alot of fun with JH. He has done some really nice things for me. I have enjoyed his company several times. He, and I guess you too Vic, created a place that I met some great people from all over the country (world?), via the board and rondys, that I would have never had the opportunity to meet otherwise. Made friends that I will most likely (hopefully) have from now on.
But, I am about at ropes end. JH has taken his hatred for George Bush and the Republican party so far that I just cannot stand it. I can live by his convictions when it comes to coyotes when in his house. Hell, I hold alot of the same convictions, dont impose them as hard as he does on others (not nearly as hard). But this political thing is out of control. Its to the point where there just arent any hunting related topics, other than a few pointed questions, anymore. Just one political statement after another. All about the same basic thing and all just hatred. No action or suggestions to make things better, just bitching and moaning. JH, and a couple of his liberal buddies are the culprits. Most of the arguments he makes arent even valid points. Bullshit topics with bullshit sources to back him up. Very sad.
You hardly ever see a post anymore by Harter or Shawn or Ken. Three of what I consider the "backbone" of the board. Not only knowlegable, but fun to talk to. I suspect some of it is due to the bullshit, off the wall politics. There are several others that have gone into lurk only mode for the same reasons. They have told me either by phone or email.
I argued with him about it for a long time out of my convictions and beliefs. And, I had some fun with it for a while. But Im about done. I cant stand for slamming our veterens that have and are fighting for our country. Laughing about people dying on 9/11 and hardships brought about by natural disasters, ect... (all of which are Bushs fault) These things are inexcusible, IMO.
Im not saying I wont ever go back. I really hope to go to more rondys as that is the only time I get to see some of these guys and that would really suck to never share a fire with them again. But I have enough stress in my life to put up with that bullshit anymore. Im taking a break, at the least. Hell, I might not have a choice after one of the kiss asses (yeah, there are a few, not as many as some believe, but a few) copies and pastes this to an email to JH in an attempt to piss him off at me while gettin some brownie points.
I dont hate John Henry, actually, just the opposite. When he is off the politics, hes a great person. Overbearing at times, but a great, big hearted person. But hes not off the politics hardly at all anymore. Its consumed him.
Anyway, I got enough work related stress right now, not to mention I am going to bury my grandfather Thursday. I dont need that shit, not at the moment.
Sorry for rambling on.
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posted June 20, 2006 02:50 PM
Andy,
I totally agree with what your concerns are.I feel the same way.I have no problem going toe to toe with JH whether it be politics,or shooting coyotes,but NO good is coming of it,he is so bitter against both the "Publicans" LOL and Bush that he is totally blinded by his outrage.I have decided to give it a rest over there myself.Good Hunting Chad
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Tim Behle
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posted June 20, 2006 03:05 PM
Andy, sorry to hear of your loss.
But don't worry about JH canciling out anyone's votes. I happend to be in line behind a fellow named Peters at the last election, and I couldn't help but peek at the book when they signed him in.
The only two Petrowski's registered to vote are his parents, And JH's Dad doesnt' much care for liberals. I'd bet you lunch we don't have three registered by the next election.
So what's with this big Memorial day post that he wrote? Everyone keeps asking me about it, and I thought I had ready it. But that we the weekend I was really sick, then I wen't on the pain pills and I can't recall what it was about. ( And I don't care to give the SOB the time of day long enough to go and look it up myself. )
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Andy L
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posted June 20, 2006 03:31 PM
Thanks Tim.
You got email.
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posted June 20, 2006 03:44 PM
Andy...ya just got to let it go,and be more like the "backbone" boys. They usually never get involved in the political discussion if you notice,and for good reason.
Harter did make possibly the finest,most sincere,reasoned post that board has,or will ever see, regarding the M-day discourse.
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posted June 20, 2006 04:11 PM
Sorry to hear that you lost your Grandfather, Andy.
And I sure hope your stress level comes down, a lot, soon. I know how it (stress) can just eat you up.
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Andy L
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posted June 20, 2006 04:20 PM
Thanks Dave. Seems alot has piled up lately. Im in a high stress line of work anyway, but its really been gettin to me lately.
My grandfather has been really sick for quite a while. It doesnt make it much easier though. Thanks for the thought.
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Leonard
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posted June 20, 2006 05:34 PM
Sorry to hear about your grandfather, Andy. You have my condolences. LB
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posted June 20, 2006 05:48 PM
My condolences too. Andy.
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Andy L
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posted June 20, 2006 05:55 PM
Thanks LB and Rich. Means alot.
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posted June 20, 2006 07:02 PM
I enjoyed talkin` with you today buddy, life is hard to swallow somedays & I understand completely what stress is all about but to have a loved one pass on top of everything else just seems cruel, you`re in our thoughts & prayers. Other things in life seem to work themselves out eventually but take the time to grieve your loss, it`s good for the soul.
I`ll call you in a couple days.
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Andy L
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posted June 20, 2006 07:28 PM
Thanks a bundle JD. Means alot. Great talkin with you too. Your good people.
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posted June 20, 2006 07:54 PM
Andy, grandparents are special people. We continue to see them thru a childs eyes, no matter how old we grow. My condolences.
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posted June 20, 2006 08:32 PM
Andy,
I'm down to just my wife, kids, a brother and sister and their familes. My folks and grandparents are all gone, and I'm only 41. Never thought I'd be making all the big calls on my own with no one to ask for advice by this time in my life, but here I am.
My condolences to you, and just know that things do get smoother over time.
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Andy L
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posted June 20, 2006 09:00 PM
Thanks Tom and Lance. Thanks to all of you.
Ive been lucky. I still have one grandmother and both my parents. I couldnt imagine Lance. Thats gotta be tough. Ill be 39 shortly. I couldnt imagine.
My grandfather was a good man. Yes Tom, I have been thinking for the last 24hrs just what you said. All the things we did when I was a kid. He was a rancher. County commissioner in the 70s. Worked hard his whole life, until the last ten years. He was 85. His kidneys shut down two years ago and has been taking dialysis three times a week. That was hard on him. He fell and hurt his back a month ago and has been in alot of pain. I saw him last friday and I could tell time was short. He was tired and ready to go home. Im sure hes in a much better place tonight.
He raised five kids and six grandkids. One thing a little different, his mother out lived him. Shes 97 and still going. She was 12 when she had him and raised six kids of her own.
Your never ready for it and its sad. But, at the same time, it really hurt me, and the rest of the family, to see that big, strong, proud man in the shape he has been in lately. Hes in a better place.
Thanks to you all.
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Leonard
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posted June 21, 2006 08:28 PM
Meanwhile:
The New York Times wants Gitmo closed. The San Jose Mercury News claims that Gitmo nurtures a culture of death. The Cleveland Plain Dealer wants Gitmo closed. Journalists and editorial staffs are up in arms that there might possibly be some kind of torture occurring.
So what do they say when torture OBVIOUSLY occurs? How do they react when two U.S. servicemen — in Geneva Convention-approved uniforms — have their hearts cut out, their testicles cut off, their penises cut off and stuffed in their mouths, arms contorted and eyes gouged? THIS is torture.
But WHERE is the outrage?
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Andy L
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posted June 21, 2006 09:05 PM
Sorry LB, didnt mean to hijack the thread....
Did all those things take place? I havent seen much news the last couple of days.
You know the outrage puzzles me as well. For instance, the same folks that were pumping their fists in the air on 9-11, calling for Muslim heads to roll in rivers of blood are the same ones that are doing the loudest bitching about GW and the war. WTF?
I think the right side may still have a fighting chance this fall and in two years. Things are starting to come in line and hopefully folks will wake up and realize how bad these folks really are.
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Leonard
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posted June 21, 2006 10:24 PM
I cut and pasted that from FOXNEWS website.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200419,00.html
(another little gem I found)
Leading the students was U.S. anti-war campaigner Cindy Sheehan, who lost her son in Iraq and energized the anti-war movement last summer with a protest outside Bush's Texas ranch. Demonstrators waved black flags, blew whistles, beat drums and shouted, "Hey, ho, Bush has got to go!" Others carried banners and signs that said "World's No. 1 Terrorist" and "Islam is not the enemy."
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