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BigO
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posted December 21, 2007 11:20 PM
I have a friend who is moving to Colorado and has excepted a job as a Tribal Police Officer. He says he has been hired sight unseen and told that he will have to attend a Cultural Awareness class.
I pondered what exactly a Cultural Awareness class is. I have come to the determination that it is way for some people to tell me why I should not care that they do things that I consider illegal or un-American. Simply because they are who they are.
These are the same people that complain about the American Government, but then take it's money for a free education and money for them to provide for their families. These are the same people who want to were a turbin and bow to the east in the afternoon to pray, in the middle of parent teacher confrences, then turn around and complain because their kids teacher has a Christmas tree in the class room.
Maybe, there should be a Cultural Awareness class at this contry's ports, and you should be told that if you are moving here or going to live here, that you are an American. You are no longer Chinese, Japanese, Jewish, Iraqi, ****** French, English or where ever else you come from.
There is agroup out there called The Ulster Project. This group takes kids from Northern Ireland and brings them to America to live for a year or so to show them that we can live beside someone with different religious backgrounds and not kill each other, And that they can too. That is some REAL Cultural Awareness!! Teach people how to live in peace and harmony or to better themselves not how to turn a blind eye to a groups short commings or illegal activity.
Once again, only in America!!!
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Leonard
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posted December 21, 2007 11:34 PM
Yeah, okay. I just heard that the Lakota want to renounce their citizenship and just be tribal members of their Sovereign Nation. That's great, no more free roads and schools, electricity, beer or anything else. And stay the hell out of the United States, too. Run your own friggin' Postal Service, and banking system, print your own money.
Good hunting. LB
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NASA
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posted December 22, 2007 03:28 PM
Yeah, you tell 'em, Custer. What the hell are they doing in "our" country in the first place? ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
[ December 22, 2007, 03:29 PM: Message edited by: NASA ]
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Kokopelli
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posted December 22, 2007 05:50 PM
Let's be clear on one thing; The 'evil white man' didn't do ANYTHING to the native tribes that they weren't already doing to each other. The tribes stole from each other, killed each other, and drove each other from their lands. The white man just did it better. Did the ****** get a raw deal?? You bet!! And it's long past time for them to get over it and get on with their lives. This on-going 'you took our land' pity party is getting old, so take some casino profits and start buying it back.
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JD
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posted December 22, 2007 06:02 PM
Amen!!!
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Locohead
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posted December 22, 2007 06:28 PM
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I have a friend who is moving to Colorado and has excepted a job as a Tribal Police Officer. He says he has been hired sight unseen and told that he will have to attend a Cultural Awareness class.
I pondered what exactly a Cultural Awareness class is. I have come to the determination that it is way for some people to tell me why I should not care that they do things that I consider illegal or un-American. Simply because they are who they are.
Sounds like you are making a pretty darn big assumption there.
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These are the same people that complain about the American Government, but then take it's money for a free education and money for them to provide for their families. These are the same people who want to were a turbin and bow to the east in the afternoon to pray, in the middle of parent teacher confrences, then turn around and complain because their kids teacher has a Christmas tree in the class room.
Assumption maybe?
I admit, I probably am misunderstanding your post...(although I read thru it a couple of times) but are you saying tribal people are Muslim? Sounds like you're saying the class will force your buddy to overlook peote usage and public scalpings or something!?!?
Maybe you should find out what a "Cultural Awareness class" really is. I don't entirely disagree with your opinions but I just don't see how all this (Cultural learning, people abusing systems, muslims etc.) ties together with your buddy taking a class to learn about the culture of the people living within his jurisdiction.
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Rich
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posted December 22, 2007 06:41 PM
We promised the ******* that we would give them a large piece of ground, and they could live there as long as the grass grows and the rivers flow. Then we placed them on barren ground where grass won't grow and there ain't no river that flows. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Paul Melching
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posted December 22, 2007 06:59 PM
posted December 22, 2007 05:50 PM
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Let's be clear on one thing; The 'evil white man' didn't do ANYTHING to the native tribes that they weren't already doing to each other. The tribes stole from each other, killed each other, and drove each other from their lands. The white man just did it better. Did the ****** get a raw deal?? You bet!! And it's long past time for them to get over it and get on with their lives. This on-going 'you took our land' pity party is getting old, so take some casino profits and start buying it back.
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Kelly Jackson
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posted December 22, 2007 07:50 PM
Mr Cronk - you arn't speaking of Oklahoma per chance??
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Tim Behle
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posted December 22, 2007 09:47 PM
I'm with you Loco, I think that a Cultural Awareness class would have been down right handy when I Moved from the Midwest, to a Border Town.
Cultural Awareness classes aren't to tell you to over look people who break the laws, they are to help you avoid pissing off everyone around you by making off hand comments or gestures, that may not be Offensive in your culture, but are extremely offensive to another culture.
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NASA
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posted December 22, 2007 10:52 PM
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The 'evil white man' didn't do ANYTHING to the native tribes that they weren't already doing to each other.
I think you could benefit from a remedial class in "North American 1ndian History".
[ December 22, 2007, 10:53 PM: Message edited by: NASA ]
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Steve B
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posted December 23, 2007 12:38 AM
Cultural Awareness classes aren't to tell you to over look people who break the laws, they are to help you avoid pissing off everyone around you by making off hand comments or gestures, that may not be Offensive in your culture, but are extremely offensive to another culture.
I gotta say, many of those folks are the same ones that want me to take Christ out of Christmas because it offends them and their prophet. It ain't gonna happen!
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Kokopelli
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posted December 23, 2007 01:26 AM
"I think that you could benefit from a remedial class in "North American 1ndian History".
OK.......So the tribes didn't steal from each other?? They didn't kill each other?? They didn't drive each other from their lands?? Odd that the Sioux ended up out on the prairie when their Pre-Columbian ancestral home was the Great Lakes region. Maybe the class will cover that.
I'm not saying that what happened to the 1ndians was right. They got screwed over big time. Most all of the land that we live on was at one time promised to the tribes "Forevermore" but I don't hear anybody saying, "My property was stolen from the 1ndians.....I'll give it back & move someplace else".
The fact is that any culture can use it's past either as a rudder to guide it into the future or as an anchor to hold it back.
End of rant.
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Leonard
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posted December 23, 2007 02:47 AM
Considering the way indigenous aboriginals (worldwide) have been treated, curently and historically, the Federal Government is good and honorable toward our native American tribes.
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Randy Roede
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posted December 23, 2007 06:04 AM
From what I've seen the more we help the more we hurt. It's over, all my ancestors homelands were conquered by someone at sometime. Good deal bad deal it's over!
A sound business foundation on our local reservations and it would be shocking how much money could be made. Whether it be ranching farming, or gaming!
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JD
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posted December 23, 2007 08:28 AM
Exactly right Randy, more free stuff won`t fix it.
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Bofire
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posted December 23, 2007 08:29 AM
Cultural awareness is a great tool for any Cop. Does not matter if you go from Mexico to Canada or Seattle to St. Louis.
The last thing any cop wants is to excerbate a bad situation out of simple ignorance.
Some folks dont want to shake hands, some avoid eye contact, some are not technichly aware. Some want to be really close to you when they talk, some feel they cant talk until allowed by an Elder or after an Elder speaks, never before. and Beleive it or not we ALL have these little quirks. Being aware of them is good for all of us.
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NASA
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posted December 23, 2007 10:26 AM
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OK.......So the tribes didn't steal from each other??
You're trying to paint "all" 1ndians with the same brush. Not all tribes were aggressive or defensive. Most of those tribes were the first ones killed off by the invading whites. You don't hear much about them though. You only read about the ones that tried to fight back.
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Leonard
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posted December 23, 2007 11:42 AM
Some credible evidence exists that they even "ate" each other, Tom.
Peaceful tribes? Yeah, I suppose, but they were all subject to getting thumped by their neighbors. So, some of that noble redman "spin" is pure BALONEY. Ditto, victims. Yeah again, some injustices....duly noted. But, think about it for a minute. Should America have become a pristine wilderness forever, only violated by film crews from the Discovey Channel? Like the Amazon, maybe? These people were primitive, with no defense against civilization. They have "lived long and prospered" in comparison to the hard realities of the precontact period. The "hand wringers" all like to heap guilt on us any way they can, but that's a friggin' RELIGION for some folks. I choose not to buy into the program.
Good hunting. LB
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NASA
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posted December 23, 2007 12:12 PM
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they were all subject to getting thumped by their neighbors
Yeah, kind of like the society we live in today, huh. Everyone with bars on their windows, raise your hand. Everyone with a home self-defense weapon, raise your hand. Everyone with a CCW, raise your hand. According to your version of history, we are ripe for an invasion and extermination.
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Leonard
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posted December 23, 2007 12:42 PM
My version, your version? Whatever. Like they say, history is written by the victors...and our faithful revisionists attempt to rewrite it.
Sometimes they just don't make sense? Like right now; I can't figure out what the hell you are trying to say? You seem to have a direct and mystic connection that validates YOUR version of truth, whatever it is? I'm real happy for you. LB
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BigO
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posted December 24, 2007 12:20 AM
I am not mistaking tribal people with muslims. I am simply mentioning different cultures than my own. I just thought it was funny that a Caucasion officer who is hired "sight unseen" was told that he has to attend a cultural awareness class. How do they know he needs it?? To me, it seems the assumption is that he is different and needs to learn how to deal with the locals.
I have been to cultural awareness classes. I can not ever recall any of them mentioning how someone can avoid offending me. It seems the class is based on how I can avoid offending someone else. It just seems one sided to me.
Just like when I went to college. I filled out my papers for student aid. Right on the packet it said, "If you are African American, Latino, Native American or Asian talk to the Finance Clerk because you may qualify for free education." I didn't have a dime!! Why wasn't I offered a free education instead of an education on credit?? Fair is fair, what gives??
I know I may sound like one, but please don't think I am a bigot. I like all people!!! I just think things should be fair. I don't think someone should get special treatment because their great-great-great grandfather was a slave, or was shot in a !ndian war by one of my ancestors. And I really don't think America should be giving free education and money to foriegners, when it wont give those things to it's own citizens.
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BigO
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posted December 24, 2007 12:30 AM
Locohead,
I do believe the purpose of my friend having to attend "another" cultural awareness class is to make sure that he knows peote and marijuana are both used in the Native American religious ceremonies, and that he should overlook these things.
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Locohead
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posted December 24, 2007 11:12 AM
Getting all the facts helps when formulating an opinion BigO. Let's just hope scalpings aren't to be over looked. I really hate short hair-cuts!!! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Thanks for clarifying. A cultural awareness class seems to me (an outsider) like a realistic thing to do. I just didn't know what it entailed.
I'm really confused still. I thought that tribal folks had their own laws (such as the legal peyote and mary&juanie). And I thought they had their own law ewnforcement to enforce tribal laws.
I'm still lacking in the "getting all the facts" department. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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posted December 24, 2007 03:24 PM
Kelly, Do you have a roll number?
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