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Melvin
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posted April 29, 2005 06:26 PM
When hunting alone i always had trouble keeping my rifle or shotgun ready for a shot without making to much movement,so i gave velcro a try.I put a strip"the stick on kind"on the butplate of my shotgun and rifle and put a strip on my shoulder strap on my hunting vest..It works well so far and thought i would mention it to those who never tried it.It keeps the gun ready and your hands are free to do the calling.you can also use a leg strapon rest for the front of your rifle or shotgun.
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Melvin
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posted April 29, 2005 07:06 PM
Those that may try velcro...you try at your own risk...because i have no problems don't mean it is fool proof...Some velcro don't hold as well as others.
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TheHuntedOne
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posted April 29, 2005 10:21 PM
If you have an old bike inner tube, or even go buy a new one, they are only a couple of bucks, you can make a "sling" to hold your rifle at the ready.
I took a bike inner tube and cut it in half. Then I took it and doubled it so it formed a loop. I pinned the ends to the back of my jacket or hunting shirt, and pull the loop over my shoulder. The but of the rifle goes in the loop and the forarm goes on the shooting sticks or monopod. The gun is always up and ready. There is a company called Little Bighorn that makes a holder that you pin on your vest or shirt to hold your gun up. That is where I got the idea. I was too cheap to pay 10 bucks for it when I could make it myself.
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posted April 30, 2005 09:01 AM
I'm a little worried about the noise velcro makes. Doesn't it make noise if you move at all?
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Melvin
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posted April 30, 2005 01:10 PM
I use it on my shoulder strap on my hunting vest....the strap moves to the direction i turn my gun...Only time i have noise is when i pull the gun from the velcro.my vest also has a adjustable strap that snaps in front and this helps the weight of the gun from pulling my vest downward
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Leonard
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posted April 30, 2005 01:13 PM
I can visualize both of you guy's solutions. I'll give it some thought. Thanks for sharing.
Good hunting. LB
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Greenside
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posted April 30, 2005 01:26 PM
I can visualize it also, but I not real sure it will save you alot of time.
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Az-Hunter
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posted April 30, 2005 08:45 PM
The only thing I can visualize...is an accident waiting to happen. Just not sure of any advantage, to glueing a rifle stock to your shoulder?
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TheHuntedOne
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posted April 30, 2005 09:39 PM
AZ Huter, ever set up in the prone position? That rifle stock is glued to your shoulder then ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
The advantage is in not having to lift your rifle or shotgun to take the shot. A lot less movement.
When I sit like this, the gun is on safe, the forarm is on a monopod and the gunbutt is in my shoulder. All I have to do is move my arms and hands a bit to take the shot. This works well for me in the cover I hunt in because the coyotes come in quite close most of the time and movement gets them going in the other direction.
If I am hunting in wide open spaces, I don't need to do this. I have lots of time usually to get the gun up and take the shot.
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Leonard
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posted May 01, 2005 09:54 AM
Well, that's just Vic, being Vic, I'm sure he understands what you are doing is supporting the rifle fore and aft, as you would when shooting from the bench.
But, in this case, you have the stock or barrel supported on shooting sticks, and the butt, which is normally cradled, in some fashion, instead, you have it supported in the shoulder position, thereby leaving the hands free to (perhaps) work a hand call, or a remote?
Now, is this an advantage? Some cases, it may be? In other cases, I can see that it may put the hunter at a disadvantage, if he needs to swing into a different, and unexpected position.
Everybody has their own technique and it is good to share.
Good hunting. LB
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Cdog911
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posted May 01, 2005 11:21 AM
I'm with Vic on this one to an extent. I just don't think having both ends of a loaded weapon essentially at the mercy of an unexpected movement is all that safe. Sure, I use sticks, not a mono pod. The fore end of the rifle is cradled in the sticks while the butt is on my left hip or in my lap. The sticks serve two important roles: they keep the rifle halfway to ready for when the shot presents, and they keep my rifle out of the ground litter and dirt.
I just can't recall any instance where I had to be that ready for a shot. (In fact, my experience has been that if one controls their movements, a resonable shot will usually present itslef without having to move that fast.)
I can just picture me out there with my e-caller blaring and me, rifle shouldered, looking like special foirces "clearing" a a cedar patch. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Tim Behle
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posted May 01, 2005 12:42 PM
I use the Harris 27" bipods from time to time. When I do, I but the rifle but in my right shirt pocket.
It keeps the rifle in a near ready position, and frees up my hands to work the call.
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Rich Higgins
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posted May 01, 2005 03:22 PM
I do just as Tim does. When it is my turn to call to the rifle and we are on one of the many stands that a coyote can pop up out of a wash or the heavy brush 40 yards or even closer, I always set the barrel on the sticks facing one of the probable entrances, place the butt in my right pocket and snuggle into it. When they appear, it is with all three sensors zeroed in on me while I have both hands on the call. I can slowly move my hands just a short distance to get on the coyote.
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Leonard
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posted May 01, 2005 04:45 PM
My guess is that Az won't be hunting with either of youse guys.
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Melvin
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posted May 01, 2005 08:11 PM
Rich it couldn't be said better"Facing probable entrances".If someone would cut all these trees down and mow the brush out of the way i could go more to the bipods or shooting sticks,i do use them but i'm not out in the open very much.Rich you will do very well here filming...Do you and Tim replace very many shirt pockets?...If you do its worth it.
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Locohead
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posted May 01, 2005 09:11 PM
I use the 27" inch Harris too. (When I'm not toting a Canon) My approach is way off in wierdo land (what else is new) according to you guys. But for those that don't know...My solution to this dilema is to use the Harris, use my hands to shoulder the rifle, keep my hands near the trigger, stick the call in my mouth, and forget about the ol' waa waa hand effect thing. You boyz only use your hands for the waa waa effect thing because you think you sound cooler! You can do it with your voice fluctuations too you know!!!
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Leonard
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posted May 01, 2005 10:03 PM
There might be some truth to that, Danny?
On the other hand, have you tried a diaphragm?
Good hunting. LB
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TheHuntedOne
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posted May 02, 2005 10:02 PM
Shirt pocket - now that would work. But then I would have to take my coat off and by the time the coyote arrived, I might be froze to death.
I think I need to move to a much warmer coyote climate
Cdogg - I understand about the "special forces clearing a cedar patch" - but what about these AR 15 toting, camo clad coyote boys? They sure don't look like the chaps from the Sunday Trap League
Heck, this isn't anything new. Turkey hunters have been doing this for years. Oh well, it works for me and I haven't shot off any vital parts yet.
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Az-Hunter
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posted May 02, 2005 10:34 PM
I was referring more to "field" shooting conditions, where I guess, the idea was geared more to sitting, with the aid of a bipod?
Really wasn't being contentious Leonard:)
In the event of a slip or misplaced foot that might make me stumble, or even fall, when shooting off hand. I want a butt stock to be able to move away from my shoulder, as quick or quicker than how it got there. Then the rifle can be dismounted, pulled to my chest, muzzle up, arms around it, while I slip and slide, and bust my ass in the rocks:)
I picture the same scenario with the rifle velcroed into my shoulder, and I see a $500 tomatoe stake:)
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Leonard
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posted May 02, 2005 11:35 PM
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Really wasn't being contentious Leonard:)
:Az
I know. I think I was?
Good hunting. LB
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TheHuntedOne
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posted May 03, 2005 05:23 AM
Ah heck AZ - that would never happen to me - I can't shoot offhand anyway so I wouldn't even try it. I have way to much ballast that works quite well in the sitting position, no sense in wasting it standing around. You know us eastern boys are not all that good of shots anyway - which is why we use shotguns in the first place
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