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Leonard
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posted July 12, 2007 11:40 AM
Here is a REAL INTERVIEW with an illegal
> Mexican at a protest march in Texas.
> This is good! Below is a good example of a
> discussion with a master of circular logic.
Don't be logical,don't respect the truth or your adversary,
just say what you think makes a new case when
the previous case gets too difficult to defend.
> Jim Moore reporting for a Houston TV station on
> the streets of downtown Houston on May 1, 2006: read on~
> Jim:Juan, I see that you and thousands of other
> protesters are marching in the streets to
> demonstrate for your cause. Exactly what is your
> cause and what do you expect to accomplish by
> this protest?
> Juan: We want our rights. We will show you
> how powerful we are. We will bring Houston
> to its knees!
> Jim:What rights?
> Juan: Our right to live here...legally. Our
> right to get all the benefits you get.
> Jim:When did you come to the United States?
> Juan : Six years ago. I crossed over the
> border at night with seven other friends.
> Jim:Why did you come?
> Juan : For work. I can earn as much in a
> month as I could in a year in Mexico.
> Besides, I get free health care, our Mexican
> children can go to school free, if I lose my
> job I will get Welfare, and someday I will
> have the Social Security. Nothing like that in
> Mexico!
> Jim:Did you feel badly about breaking our
> immigration laws when you came?
> Juan: No! Why should I feel bad? I have a
> right to be here. I have a right to amnesty. I
> paid lots of money for my Social Security
> and Green Cards.
> Jim:How did you acquire those documents?
> Juan : From a guy in Dallas. He charged me
> a lot of money too.
> Jim:Did you know that those documents were
> forged?
> Juan : It is of no matter. I have a right to be
> here and work.
> Jim:What is the "right" you speak of?
> Juan : The right of all Aliens. It is found in
> your Constitution. Read it!
> Jim:I have read it, but I do not remember it saying
> anything about rights for Aliens.
> Juan: It is in that part where it says that all
> men have Alien rights, like the right to
> pursue happiness. I wasn't happy in Mexico,
> so I came here.
> Jim:I think you are referring to the declaration of
> Independence and that document speaks to
> unalienable rights... Not Alien rights.
> Juan: Whatever.
> Jim:Since you are demanding to become an
> American citizen, why then are you carrying a
> Mexican Flag?
> Juan: Because I am Mexican.
> Jim:But you said you want to be given amnesty ...
> to become a US citizen.
> Juan: No. This is not what we want. This is
> our country, a part of Mexico that you
> Gringos stole from us. We want it returned
> to its rightful owner.
> Jim:Juan, you are standing in Texas. After wining
> the war with Mexico, Texas became a Republic,
> and later Texans voted to join the USA. It was not
> stolen from Mexico.
> Juan: That is a Gringo lie. Texas was stolen.
> So was California, New Mexico and Arizona.
> It is just like allthe other stuff you Gringos
> steal, like oil and babies. You are a country
> of thieves.
> Jim:Babies? You think we steal babies?
> Juan: Sure. Like from Korea and Vietnam
> and China. I see them all over the place. You
> let all these foreigners in, but try to keep us
> Mexicans out. How is this fair?
> Jim:So, you really don't want to become an
> American citizen then.
> Juan: I just want my rights! Everyone has a
> right to live, work, and speak their native
> language wherever andwhenever they
> please. That's another thing we demand. All
> signs and official documents should be in
> Spanish. Teachers must teach in Spanish.
> Soon, more people here in Houston will
> speak Spanish than English. It is our right!
> Jim:If I were to cross over the border into Mexico
> without proper documentation, what rights would I
> have there?
> Juan: None. You would probably go to jail,
> but that's different.
> Jim:How is it different? You said everyone has the
> right to live wherever they please.
> Juan: You Gringos are a bunch of land
> grabbing thieves. Now you want Mexico too?
> Mexico has its rights. You Gringos have no
> rights in Mexico. Why would you want to go
> there anyway? There is no free medical
> service, schools, or welfare there for
> foreigners such as you. You cannot even own
> land in my country. Stay in the country of
> your birth.
> Jim:I can see that there is no way that we can
> agree on this issue. Thank you for your comments.
> Juan: Viva Mexico!
> Pass this along to every American citizen in your
> address books and to every representative in the
> state and federal government. If you choose to
> remain uninvolved, do not be amazed when you no longer
> have a nation to call your own nor anything you
> have worked for left since it will be "redistributed"
> to the activists while you are so peacefully staying
> out of the "fray". Check history, it is full of
> nations/empires that disappeared when its citizens
> no longer held their core beliefs and values. One
> person CAN make a difference. One plus one plus
> one plus one plus one plus one........
> The battle for our secure borders and immigration
> laws that actually mean something, however,
> hasn't even begun.
> If this ticks YOU off...PASS IT ON!
[ July 12, 2007, 11:41 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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Leonard
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posted July 12, 2007 11:51 AM
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onecoyote
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posted July 12, 2007 11:54 AM
I smell a war in the future. Mexico becomes the 51st state.
Hey, Juan I hope you read this. Oh I forgot, you can't read.
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Andy L
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posted July 12, 2007 12:22 PM
If we made a state out of it, at least we could use their oil. Good resorts. Good coyote callin for a while too.
However, from what I have seen of it, there would be a terrible heavy burden of welfare.
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Krustyklimber
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posted July 12, 2007 01:20 PM
I say we let 'em have Texas! ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
(Amen and pygmies, and all that)
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Leonard
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posted July 12, 2007 01:28 PM
If we did that K, they would be sneaking into Oklahoma. How weird is that?
Not a bad idea though? But first, let's invade, and when the Democrats surrender, go ahead and give them CA and Texas....as long as all the liberal Democrats are sent along.
Good hunting. LB
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Andy L
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posted July 12, 2007 03:34 PM
I got an idea. Lets swap em everything east of the Mississippi for Mexico. We can draw the line there. Let em try and swim that bastard.
Actually, the more I see whats developing, the sicker I get. Im about to give up and get ready for socialism. Im afraid its coming and theres not a damned thing I can do about it but head for the hills and hide.
I see no hope in winning this fight, not with the stage thats set for us in '08. If Hillary wins, Canadas gonna look free. If Obama wins, the UK will look free.
Nothing good can come of it.
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onecoyote
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posted July 12, 2007 04:00 PM
Have you ever seen the Mexican Air force? I have.....they have 1 DC3.
I also seen the Mexican Navy?.....5 adobe PT boats and one adobe sub.
The Mexican Navy is only 1 mile from the Pacific and has yet to lanch a boat?
I say we put the U.S. Navy in the Sea of Cortez and take over the mainland.
Take all there gold, oil, silver and all there beautiful women, then through all the left overs in the Sea of Cortez. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Paul Melching
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posted July 12, 2007 06:17 PM
Leonard
we cant use that box trap in az. its illeagal and would probably just catch the governor.
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Kelly Jackson
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posted July 13, 2007 06:11 AM
sneaking into Oklahoma........hell they been here for years....Kelly
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Cdog911
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posted July 13, 2007 06:23 AM
Hell yeah, they have. OK has so many they're starting to spill over into Nebraska!
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