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George Ackley
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posted August 16, 2008 08:20 PM
Anyone know a guy that go's by the handle (Bob R) He used to frequent the Texas predator posse? i think he may have been a member of on PM also
i dont know if he spent any time here ..
we used to talk bear hunting and I haven't seen or herd from him in a long long time..
Just wondering what ever happen to him,
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Dan Carey
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posted August 16, 2008 08:31 PM
Well, if he knew anything about hunting they probably banned him. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Steve Craig
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posted August 16, 2008 08:37 PM
I know him. Good lion caller too, and as you say good with the bears. I have a pic of him somewhere with a huge lion he called and killed.
He had a good teacher! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Havent heard from him in a while though.
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brad h
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posted August 16, 2008 08:42 PM
Hi George,
I haven't seen BobR post anywhere in a long time, but I do know who you mean. I remember him from the TPP and I also remember he was familiar with an ADC man formerly from this area.
Let me see what I can find out and I'll be in touch.
Brad
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Leonard
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posted August 16, 2008 11:02 PM
Is he active on the black board? Maybe?
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Lonny
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posted August 17, 2008 08:44 AM
I used to stay in contact with Bob, but haven't seen him on any boards for several years. Bob didn't seem like a JH guy so I can't imagine him hanging out there.
I know Bob spent a heck of a lot of time in the hills learning about lions and bears. I remember in a post on PM I believe, somebody repeated the old statement that lions WILL NOT eat carrion and will only eat their own kills. Bob took a road-killed deer and placed it in a stategic location, set up a game camera and promptly got some picture of a lion feeding on the carcass. Blew that old theory all to hell.
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George Ackley
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posted August 17, 2008 10:22 AM
Bob R definitely knows his stuff , I been hunting bear along time,it always seamed he had the same trick and technics as I did ,,
If anyone talks to him tell him I said hi.
George Ackley aka rem223pa
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Bofire
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posted August 17, 2008 04:20 PM
remember the deer head he wore!!!
LOL
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George Ackley
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posted August 18, 2008 05:49 AM
Bofire,,
I kind of remember someone putting on a deer head as a decoy,,,, was that him?
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Bofire
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posted August 18, 2008 06:02 PM
I think it was George, there was a picture of him in a field, with the deer head sticking up. He said it was safe cause he was on private property, It was a Doe head as I remember. Ole Bearmanric went hunting with him once I think.
Carl
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George Ackley
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posted August 18, 2008 06:09 PM
It was a Doe head
I do remember that LOL
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Locohead
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posted August 20, 2008 06:16 PM
Sounds like a pretty cool that would have some great stories. I wish he would frequent here.
You know, I would love it if Steve Craig would take the time to post a tale or fourteen about his lion calling. Any great stories Steve? Scary moments? Snuck up on by lions? Seen them crouch and ready to pounch? Lions fascinate me! Funny stories about clients. Lions not running away after the shot? Anything...
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Rich Higgins
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posted August 21, 2008 06:56 AM
Danny, I've got a bunch of lyin' stories.
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Rich
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posted August 21, 2008 11:15 AM
I know Bob Ruse, and I was a guest in his home for a few days while I called for bear and lion. I did shoot a bear, but never recovered him. A black powder hunter found the remains of that bear quite some time later. Bob had saved the skull for me, but I guess the skull is still at his place. I also called a large animal that stood about two hundred yards away, just staring at me. I was 98 percent sure it was a cougar, but passed on the shot because I was afraid it may be a mule deer. Bob told me that I should have shot it. Bummer! I have his phone number around here someplace. Maybe I will try to call him. Real nice fellow. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Steve Craig
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posted August 21, 2008 11:37 AM
Here you go Danny,
I was set up on a really good stand. In fact I consider it the best lion stand in the state of AZ.
Perfect location and a natural crossing point for every lion in the country with several overlapping territories. And what makes it the best? Easy access for you and me.
Anyway, Me and a Olympic Gold Medalist in shooting(I wont say who) were on this stand. Tight location with only 30 by 40 yard opening. WT caller with a fawn decoy set in middle of clearing, client 30 yards to my right. 20 minutes into the stand I get a response from a large Tom. He starts barking at my sounds, then goes silent. I switch to a moose calf distress, and let here play. I catch movement out of the corner of my eye, and I see a HUGE Tom doing the belly crawl into my set up. He finally lays down and watches that decoy for a full 20 minutes. I peek over at client and he is like a statue. I think this is great, I am about to pick up a cool $500 trophy fee in a few minutes.
Lion finally gets up and starts easing towards the decoy. he stops under a juniper tree and client shoots. lion jumps 10 feet into the air....right into that tree and back down, and runs over towards me, and sits down not ten yards from me,and stares at that decoy! Starts licking his left front paw! I can clearly see a nice little cut across his pad! Meanwhile, client kicks a second shell into gun, lion looks at him!
Client shoots.......lion sits there and stares at client as he is kicking another shell into gun.
Lion decides that enough is enough. He takes off through the brush and a good lope. I watch as he climbs into a rock castle and is gone.
I ask Bill(not his real name) what happened? He says sights are knocked off! We set up a target at 40 yards(same as his shot distance), and he hits bulleye!
Moral of the story?..............
Just cause you can shoot the same hole on paper every shoot for days on end, doesnt keep you from getting a bad case of buck(lion) fever!
AND never count your Trophy Fee before it gets killed!
[ August 21, 2008, 11:40 AM: Message edited by: Steve Craig ]
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Locohead
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posted August 21, 2008 12:33 PM
AAAAAAAAHHHhhhhhhh!!!
What a huge change of emotions in but a brief moment. Bummer dude. How disapointing.
Suprised that the cat reacted and then went back to watching again. LOL
How does a situation like that affect the lion next time he hears a call? Will you not used the moose calf in distress again in that area, or will not make a difference?
Thanks for the story! And thanks that it wasn't a lyin' story!
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Steve Craig
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posted August 21, 2008 03:06 PM
A hound hunter friend of mine caught him a couple months later. 160+ pound trophy. He had the bullet crease right across the front foot pad.
I have called the same lion to the same stand, with the same lion vocals, many, many times. He is a cat. They do not get call shy like a coyote does.
Story #2:
I took a student that was having trouble calling the lions and bobcats. He was a good K-9 caller, but had trouble with targeting cats.
We set up on a high mountain saddle, at about 8 AM. Set the caller up, no decoy as i knew there was a female and a big cub with her using this ridge system.
He was here to learn, not shoot one. Turned the WT on and 10 minutes later the big female walks out right in front of us in the brush, pinion jays dive bombing her all the way. I turned around to see what student thought about this deal, and was looking square in the face of the big kitten! Student had his rifle on him, but was waiting to see what the kitten would do first. As soon as we made eye contact, he just turned and walked off following mama. Never knew that sucker was there.
On the way back home that afternoon, we stopped at that same stand, used the same sounds, as student didnt believe the teacher that said cat could be called back(big mistake), and I put mamma in his lap at about 30 yards. Some days are diamonds!
Steve
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Steve Craig
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posted August 21, 2008 03:27 PM
Story #3 for Danny,
Had a husband and wife come on a hunt.
The guy kills his bobcat right away, and wants to shoot other stuff. He also wants his wife to shoot some grey fox. She is carrying a 20Ga. After they arrived, hubby explains to me that his wife a an eye disease and is slowing loosing her sight. She can only see in a tunnel vision while there.
(why do they always tell you this stuff after they arrive)
Well hubby is shooting everything that comes in and not allowing wife to even get a shot. I tell him he is pissing off wife as she tells me this privately. I tell him dont shoot anything on next stand. Wife has to sit with me as she can barely see to even walk along, so I have to help her to every stand.
We set up on a small canyon rim in the middle of a cactus field. Prickly Pear all over. She sits right down on one to begin stand!
So here I am pulling needles out of here butt, and hubby dont even help. He is mad at me for telling him he cant shoot!
We finally get the caller started and out pops a grey fox at 20 yards in about 30 seconds. She cant see fox, so I reach up, turn her head slightly in right direction(I cant believe fox is still there), she sees fox, jumps to her feet and emptys her 20 at that poor dumb fox, blowing cactus off all around him!!!!!!!
No more shells!
Fox still standing there trying to figure out what in the wide, wide world of sports is going on!
Wife begins in a loud whisper to hubby: Bill...Bill..Bill....shoot the fox! shoot the fox!
Hubby yells back,.....Steve said i cant shoot on this stand!!!!!!!
We get up, fox finally runs off, and both are mad at me!!!!!!
The life of a guide!
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MULE
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posted August 21, 2008 03:31 PM
Thanks for the stories Steve. Keep em coming
I would imagine that "Lion fever" must be like buck fever times a hundred
How far away from your decoy/caller do you set up and do lions depend on thier nose to the same degree as coyotes? By that I mean, does the wrong smell spook them as much?
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Steve Craig
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posted August 21, 2008 05:40 PM
I set the caller anywhere from 30 yards to 250 yards away, depending on the situation and stand.
Most callers do not use the remote callers to full potential.
Lions like all cats have a pretty good nose. Better than most give them credit for. Trouble is(for them), is they dont use it!
I have had an Airedale on stands with me and it doesnt stop them from showing up.
They just dont feel the need to use that nose as they are sight hunters for the most part.
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rainshadow1
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posted August 21, 2008 08:49 PM
How many call-ins before the heart stops pounding in the ears?!?!?!
No, seriously! It's a real handicap!
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Leonard
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posted August 21, 2008 08:54 PM
I agree with that, 100% Steve. I'm positive that all cats have an excellent sense of smell. They sure don't take advantage of what they have, as does a coyote. I have yet to see a bobcat or lion circle downwind, unless it was purely accidental. Yes, sometimes they approach from downwind, and I think they react to mist, but if they decide to come in, it has nothing to do with scent.
I don't think I will tell about the time we had a lion in the headlights, (maybe 25 yards) just as we were pulling onto the road, after a stand. I was in such a hurry to get in the back of the truck that I failed to put the trans in PARK...it was between P and R and basically N. We were both in the back ready to shoot when the vehicle started rolling backwards downhill, pitch dark, at a scary clip. I managed to get back up front and apply the brakes, just before we would have gone into a fair sized ditch. Never able to light up that lion, afterwards? That was real close to disaster.
Good hunting. LB
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Steve Craig
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posted August 21, 2008 09:10 PM
"How many call-ins before the heart stops pounding in the ears?!?!?!"
It is one of the reasons(there are more), that I decided to shut down AzPredatorHunts.
When a guy begins to loose the high heartrate on a stand, it is time to take a break.
I actually enjoyed it more teaching others how to do it themselves.
Even that got a little old on me.
It is called burnout.
The last 2 Campouts we had, I didnt even leave camp.
I guess I just needed to take a break for a while is all.
i will be out there this year with the guys. I owe a couple a shot at a lion.
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Krustyklimber
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posted August 21, 2008 10:15 PM
I think it's easy to get into a mode of thinking, when dealing mainly with coyotes, that the downwind approach is purely defensive.
Most prey animal have an incredible sense of smell, the same as predators.
The downwind approach also assures the predator won't be smelled... same reason I point my nose into the wind leaving the truck, no?
Red still swears the lion I called had to have been following us. It definitely paralleled our course, which angled into the wind, from the downwind side.
It knew what we were. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Locohead
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posted August 21, 2008 11:19 PM
What a riot Steve! Story 3 was a doozie! LOL
I'm with el MULA!!! Keep the stories coming. And Steve, you have a real niche buddy. You really ought to write a book. The amount stories you can tell about lion hunting, I'm sure cannot be matched. I bet there would be a ton of interest!!! Heck, I'd buy a jillion and give them out as gifts.
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