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Leonard
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posted September 01, 2009 11:36 AM
This morning I have a couple invites. Hunting boards are multiplying like bacteria.
But now, something is wrong with monsters, or is it just me?
Good hunting. LB
[ September 02, 2009, 11:31 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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Kelly Jackson
SECOND PLACE/GARTH BROOKS LOOK-A-LIKE CONTEST
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posted September 01, 2009 12:01 PM
nope its not just you LB.
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Leonard
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posted September 01, 2009 12:24 PM
Whew! Thanks, Kelly. Was worried there, for a minute.
Looky here, another invite! (three more than I ever got for Pred Professionals)
Anyway, if GZ has hung it up, I can sure understand.
Good hunting. LB
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Kelly Jackson
SECOND PLACE/GARTH BROOKS LOOK-A-LIKE CONTEST
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posted September 01, 2009 12:28 PM
thinking this might be fire related...
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Lone Howl
Free Trial Platinum Member & part-time language police
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posted September 01, 2009 12:33 PM
My God!! I just quit PM a few minutes ago, where am I gonna go now?!
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Dave Allen
Hi, I'm SUPER DAVE, IN CHARGE OF Q STUFF (and Goat Leader) "I'm really not trying to be a dick".
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posted September 01, 2009 12:51 PM
Yeah,LH it took em' all of about 3-4 minutes to delete you're thread..Arkys & Nikonut still havent been deleted yet ??
Good for you..
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Lone Howl
Free Trial Platinum Member & part-time language police
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posted September 01, 2009 01:18 PM
Yeah, I knew it would, I just said that I was sad to see it get as bad as it has,thats considered bad mouthing, so they pulled it.
Oh well.
[ September 01, 2009, 01:21 PM: Message edited by: Lone Howl ]
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boomflop
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posted September 01, 2009 01:48 PM
I just went to pmonster and it is saying server suspended, oh well, trash talk or not it was fun to read
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Kokopelli
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posted September 01, 2009 02:22 PM
My Gawd........ First the Weekly World News and now the Monster. It just ain't right. What will we lose next......Rotten.com ????
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Leonard
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posted September 01, 2009 02:54 PM
Kelly could be right? Maybe the fires are heading up his way? I have ash all over the place, but whereas the tankers were flying over my house coming and going all week, none today?
If Lone Howl is looking for the new board by Randy Reeves, you can try here: http://www.thenpha.com/forum/ but, it's a respectable place, no personal attacks and no naughty words.
Since the monster is light's out, this is the only unedited, undeleting predator site on the net. (plug paid for by yo no say) edit: and where you know who you are dealing with.
Good hunting. LB
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Lone Howl
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posted September 01, 2009 03:47 PM
Thanks for the heads up LB. Appreciate it.
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Andy L
HI, I'M THE NEW MODERATOR OF THE CENTRAL MISSOURI FORUM, PULL MY FINGER!
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posted September 01, 2009 06:23 PM
GZ posted that anyone not updating their info would be booted. I checked mine and it was up to date and sent him a PM. He said it was fine.
I just got my computer back from the shop getting rid of virus and went there and it says Account Suspended. I thought maybe I got the boot for something but looks like its the site, not me?
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CrossJ
SECOND PLACE: PAUL RYAN Look-a-like contest
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posted September 01, 2009 07:23 PM
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it's a respectable place, no personal attacks and no naughty words.
Why is everyone so hell bent on being so politically correct? If you can't call BS on some of the asinine claims made, the board has no credibility. And while I'm on the subject, what is the need for a national predator hunting assoc? Is there really any benefit for the recreational caller?
Maintain
P.S. Reeves knows my feelings on it, I have shared them with him. Just interested in your opinions.
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rainshadow1
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posted September 01, 2009 09:12 PM
As to language et. al. : When my sons are old enough to read, I want them to read the boards. ( I already call them over to see certain pics, vids, and stuff like that. ) They won't read this board on their own. You've proven there's a need for LB's board here. That's fine. I enjoy this forum some too. But I don't want my sons exposed to that kind of stuff until they're mature enough to understand the concepts of profanity, flaming, boobie pics, and etc. I'm therefore an example of the need for some standards.
As to the association.... well, we can hope for the best, right? I mean my dept of Fish and Wildlife values input and cooperation from/with DU, and RMEF, and NWTF... and it's resulted in increased opportunity here. (Turkeys were virtually unhuntable in WA, but NWTF came along and now it's a great hunt. RMEF can be credited with getting F&W control of a ton of now public land here...) I know it's a long time in coming, but what if it worked?!?! I'd say that's worth trying for.
(Where's that little two cents thingie?)
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Steve C
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posted September 01, 2009 09:37 PM
Does anyone have direct contact w Gary from monster? I tried the last number I had for him and it came up disconnected.
PS Rainshadow... I just about lost hope in humanity until I saw that someone is trying to raise their kids right and taking responsibility, instead of forcing the community to take care of the kid. Much respect.
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Az-Hunter
Hi, I'm Vic WELCOME TO THE U.S. Free baloney sandwiches here
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posted September 01, 2009 09:39 PM
It's to late to change how I raised my son, it's done and old news. I never ever protected him from any element of real life. He saw life beginning with the birth of our farm animals, goats,sheep,hogs and horses, as well as witnessing their death, either from natural causes or the swift blow of a hammer or a .22 between the eyes, along with their butchering.
He was in our hunting camps from about age 8 or 9, and listened to randy old farts drink beer, talk about pussy and see the occasional joint of what he called "wacky tobacy" being passed around the campfire. I just didn't hide shit from him, he saw the good and the not so good, and I'd talk to him about it.
He is now a 36 year old man, a Master Sgt. in the USAF stationed overseas in the sandpit, holding down a demanding and prestigeous job for the Af. He is as soild a man as a father could ever ask for, and his mother and I am so very proud of him. He has a wonderful wife, a son, who is as tough as nails, with a love for the outdoors, and seems to be following his fathers footsteps.
Im not big on the sheltering aspect of raising kids,and just never really altered how I did my business around them, and thus far, I see no signs of any kind of repressed or retarded developement in either one of them.
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Steve C
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posted September 01, 2009 09:47 PM
Congratulations. I hope I get the chance to do the same when I (my wife) decides to have kids.
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rainshadow1
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posted September 01, 2009 10:11 PM
To each their own, Az... kinda my point.
Tell your son that specific individuals (as opposed to a general warm and fuzzy sentiments) here stateside sincerely appreciate his service.
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RainShadow Game Calls & Custom Knives
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Leonard
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posted September 01, 2009 10:20 PM
Okay, this is an predator hunting board for adults, plain and simple. We don't focus on, or encourage posts about boobies and/or potty mouth language, but if a member posts it, it probably will stay up. Even if I personally think it is in poor taste. I just don't much care for censorship, even with the best of intentions.
I can't stress it enough; be responsible for your own conduct here, I'm not going to police what people share with the membership. I have no quarrel with those that try to run a legit house, but I actually feel almost exactly as Geordie....what he said.
Good hunting. LB
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Joel Hughes
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posted September 02, 2009 07:49 AM
"Why is everyone so hell bent on being so politically correct? If you can't call BS on some of the asinine claims made, the board has no credibility."
I didn't see Geordie's comment so much as defending potty mouths or boobie pics at all. I see that quote aimed toward how places like PM have become...where you can't call BS on ANYTHING any more. Everyone is just forced to get along. So, for example, when you see a grown man chest pumping and hi-fiving about killing a summer time slicked out mama bobcat with a 17HMR and throwing and leaving it in the ditch, all in the name of "ADC work", the unbashful AZ-Hunters/ChileRojos/crossjs or whoever of the hunting community can't tell that person it makes him look like an idiot. IMO we need people to be able to call BS and tell them they make us all look stupid posting that crap on the www.
I signed up on the "bulletin board" for that purpose, and because I see some familiar names of respectable hunters. NOT for the "association" part. I pretty much agree with Geordie on that part.
Joel
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Chief
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posted September 02, 2009 09:35 AM
Vic - Didn't realize you had a son in the service. Next time you see him tell him that there is an old soldier up the road that appreciates his service and will buy him a beer, or two next time he's home. Kill all them bastards over there so that we don't have to kill them over here. Although I do think we have one living in D.C.
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Leonard
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posted September 02, 2009 10:21 AM
Funny thought. The only way Vic's son is going to kill any ragheads in the near term would be hitting a pedestrian while driving his neighbor's Ferrari in the Emirates. As usual, the Air Force has it all over us grunts, don't they?
Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for his service. Very much so.
And, Specialist Aaron J. Bosinski is leaving for home on the 4th of Sept. by way of Germany. How about that?
Good hunting. LB
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted September 02, 2009 10:31 AM
Since the subject has been brought up, and since I was part of the early planning stages for the NPHA, I'll take a moment and attempt to explain why such an organization has been formed.
First, understand that the NPHA is a non-profit organization. Therefore, there will be no political advocacy on their part; at best, they can provide and disseminate information to its members and member groups to assist them in knowing who to contact, when to make contact, and what to say when predator hunting comes under fire or faces political scrutiny at the local, state or national levels, but this is not their primary mission.
Nor has the NPHA been formed as a way to drop the hammer on any other online predator hunting community. Coincidental timing? Maybe. Intentional effort to shut down someone else? No.
That's what the NPHA will NOT do.
What the NPHA DOES do is recognizes that there has been remarkable growth in the predator calling community in the past decade and more. This is evident in the number of discussion forums that have been established dedicated solely to the art and science of predator calling. I submit this board as evidence of that fact.
For those of you in the southwest and west, the matter of calling predators is and has been old school for decades. Such is simply not the case for most areas east of Kansas where coyotes and calling are relatively new and show greater growth amongst the hunting demographics than any other form of hunting, and any other area of the country. In fact, the studies that have been done for marketing have revealed that states like Ohio and Pennsylvania are showing the greatest per capita growth toward predator hunting than any place else in the nation.
With the economy being what it is, and what it will likely be for the foreseeable future, it was the belief of a core group of individuals that the time had come to take action to find the means by which predator calling, as a community, could be stabilized. With fur prices in the tank, the allure of overflowing bank accounts ain't it.
What did this group of people see as the best way to recruit people into the sport and retain those already involved? Competition hunts - what those of you in CA, NV and AZ have known for quite some time.
Thus, NPHA has been formed. Amongst many different functions, NPHA's goal is to promote knowledge and education about calling coyotes and other predators, to promote the sport of calling predators, and to develop a system based upon the structures of current successful competition events by which competition hunts can be sanctioned and, IMO (hopefully) standardized across the nation.
Through NPHA, anyone in the country can promote and list your upcoming competition hunt events as well as serve as a place where callers from around the country can meet, connect with one another and correspond with others in clubs as they work to create and establish their own coyote calling clubs at the local and state levels.
I'm all about anyone here having the right to their own opinion, and I encourage you to form those opinions about NPHA, good or bad. Having said that, though, I also encourage you to do your homework and understand what NPHA is about rather than jumping to conclusions about what you think it might be about, and based upon those opinions and false assumptions, its value and whether or not it has any merit. If you're the non-joiner type, that's okay. But, if your reasons for not supporting others who wish to be part of this type of group are based upon false premises, I ask that you reconsider what you say.
In a nutshell, NPHA is hoped to be to predator calling what BASS is to bass angling. And, for people who have made their reputation on their history participating in competition hunts to criticize the formation of a group like this is truly ironic, if not hypocritical.
Don't take this as me going off on anyone about their opinion. Your opinion is your opinion and I respect anyone for where they stand on this. I just ask that discussions be based upon the facts about NPHA and its reasons for being created, rather than being allowed to wander off on tangents based upon conjecture. A lot of decent people - many of whom are not listed anywhere on that site - have worked many long hours over the past several months and committed many resources to seeing this project launch. I can assure you that this effort was not some wild-hared thought a few days ago.
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skoal
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posted September 02, 2009 11:19 AM
I am hoping that the Npha would be more akin to NWTF , RMEF , DU , Than B.a.s.s. I just cant see ARshaw in a bowling shirt Emblazoned with sponsors and heavy metal flake on his truck. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) On a more serious note.
We have people with the desire to promote hunting and appreiciate input from organized groups at Az Game and Fish , something like this could help with such things as night hunting in Az. and shot guns for long tail cats ect. Is this
part of the plan for npha or is it strictly for competion hunts.
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted September 02, 2009 11:28 AM
As a federal non-profit, NPHA cannot engage directly in promoting or lobbying one side of a political or legislative issue. But, through NPHA, I hope a network can be established by which, using your issue as an example, AZ hunters can work directly with other hunters in states that do allow artificial light to develop their case and assemble the right information and testimonials to support their cause. Like you in AZ, night hunting is something I would like to see opened up in Kansas. But, up to now, the KS Dept. of Wildlife & Parks has been opposed to the idea. I got some excellent information from Randy Buker the last time I took a shot at this, but I can't say for certain that our commissioners even saw what he sent me. But, it contained some excellent information to support my position. This last unsuccessful attempt, along with help from others who have fought this battle, will only better prepare me for the next one.
I personally hope that now that we have a national group, state and local groups will form and a readily accessible network with easily accessible contact information will be assembled so that when I need to get information from, say, a night hunting state like Texas, I don't have to sit here trying to route out a credible source in Texas to help provide me with information. Rather, using information provided by the NPHA, I can go directly to the Texas group and they can hook me up with the credible sources I need for the information I want. Where it goes politically will be up to me, as NPHA cannot function in that capacity as I understand it.
As far as ARShaw in a bolwing shirt festooned with sponsor logos, ..... yeah, I wanna see that! LOL
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