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Az-Hunter
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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 09:11 AM      Profile for Az-Hunter           Edit/Delete Post 
Andy, I have owned and been around livestock since age 13 till present. I currently have four horses now, three of which havent been shod in over three years. My gelding usually runs barefoot, unless like now, Im training him or riding him regularly. Ive trained three different horses Ive owned from green colts to fairly decent saddle animals. This doesn't make me an expert by any means, but paints a different picture than what you seem to have of me doesn't it, just wanted to qualify my experience.
Yeah, this thread got off the point I guess,christ, we have BB guns vs big guns, mouth calls vs electronics,camo vs no camo, dogs no dogs......and now we even get into horses! Goes to show hunters can argue about almost anything.....what an eclectic bunch.

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Andy L
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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 09:14 AM      Profile for Andy L           Edit/Delete Post 
One more thing. I re read what I wrote earlier this morning and so I dont get slammed some more for my hideous spelling and grammer, I am very tired and sore. I spent a long night in the woods with lights and guns, with several other people with lights and guns, chasing a desperate person with a gun that says he wont go back to jail.

So, I didnt proof read. Just a response. Maybe I can get some little bit of slack at least for my lack of attention to grammer and focus more on the subject at hand.

Andy

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Andy L
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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 09:16 AM      Profile for Andy L           Edit/Delete Post 
We must of have been posting at the same time.

Im good if you are. We can agree to disagree.

Subject dropped?

Andy

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 09:21 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Andy, I really think you are not giving Vic a break. And, I don't care if you killed a bear or rode some pretty country, or what happened; it's all good.

I suspect that his jungle telegraph down in "Peyton Place" already knew the basics of your hunt and he just wanted your personal impressions. You brought up the barefoot thing, and everybody has opinions, as you know.

As to hate. You may not believe it, but Mr Carlson has a lot of class. He could probably say a few unkind things, but he never has, and I don't expect he ever will.

Most of the genuine hate seems to come from a single person, and basically, it's directed at me. I don't have a bit of a problem with folks from the dark side posting here, none. And, I don't delete seventeen caliber testimonials, either.

I'm banned at CG and PM, for a reason I am not aware of, but Moderators and Administrators from both boards continue to receive the hospitality in this "house". So, I don't know where you were going with that one, but (with all due respect) it's a bad call. (BUT, I'm a Bushie, too)

But, this barefoot movement is going to generate a lot of ink, no doubt. I say, regardless of your opinion, you are welcome to state it, and your reason. I don't know a damned thing about it, but I still have an opinion. I'm not basing it on a personal relationship.

Good hunting. LB

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Az-Hunter
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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 09:34 AM      Profile for Az-Hunter           Edit/Delete Post 
We can drop it or talk about it for the next week, I hope my post didnt come off sound like an olive branch. I was laying out my experience for you, you seemed to infer that you didn't think I had enough experience to comment on horse matters, and I was clearing the air, so you understood my position.
Usually I keep my mouth shut on subjects I have little experience about, which is a whole lot of things! But firearms,shooting,hunting,horses and animals are things I know about becasue Ive been around it most of my life, so it's about the only thing I CAN comment on:) Now politics,religion, and all the rest......I try to stay mum on, no experience in any of it or give a shit about it.

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Andy L
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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 10:02 AM      Profile for Andy L           Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard,
And you think Vic is giving me a break? Come on. I mentioned the barefoot thing simply because I was amazed. I guess I gotta say it again, but we were in some places that I wouldnt have put a horse, had I not just had two go before me and I wanted to get to the destination. Mainly because I had only ridden horses with steel and I know exactly what would have taken place. It was more of a side comment to avert a good bashing, and talking of positive things I had experienced instead of the negatives that Vic was hoping for. I had no intention of making this thread focus anywhere around horses or barefoot. I was doing what was asked. Giving some details. And that was one of the things that I was really impressed with. Vics the one that discredited me, and in a round about way, everyone that was around me, and got the ball rolling. I think your wrong Leonard.

I know Vics a classy guy, or at least is in person, he contacted me by email about buying a rifle and shortly after we spoke by phone. I was very impressed. I thought he was one hell of a nice guy. At the time, I knew nothing of the status of him and JH. I had watched their video and I was even a little star struck at Vic. Never talked to a real live movie maker before. I am still very impressed of the stories I hear of his prowess with a gun, caller and pistols. On the phone, email and in person, he is one of the nicest guys I have ever talked with. But on these boards, he has more than once picked apart every friggin word I have said and tried to find a way to argue about it. He likes to start shit, with certain people and if you deny that, your lying. And with my hard head as well, its not that hard to get one going with me. LOL. But, I could really care less. I refuse to kiss ass to have friends. He can be the expert hunter or horseman or whatver he wants. I can plug along with what I got and can do and be happy.

You know its funny, as I was typing this, I scrolled down to see what exactly you had said Leonard and saw that Vic had posted again. Seems he wants to make sure I know that he doesnt want to drop this, just qualify himself some more. Thats typical. Goes right along with what I had just written.

As for the hatered coming from one place, thats BS too. If thats the case, whats all the snide comments over and over by various memebers about 17s, Airedales, and other various things? Lets pull up how many cheap shots have come from this board and how many from the other.

Also Leonard, Im not real sure that you are banned from CG. I think that may be in your head or self imposed. I could be wrong, but I think I overheard something one time that you were not banned.

As for the members, I see that Frame or Cat or a few others venture over on a limited basis. But Norm and Cal are the only two off the top of my head that frequent both. Both are very nice guys and very knowlegable. Cal is so well versed in so much having to do with coyotes and everything else related, I think he could speak anywhere.

I thought maybe I would give it a shot, but it usually ends up like this.

Vic started this with a smart ass post to draw what he hoped would be negative things from me. When that failed, he took a small part of it, that like I said was just something that was new to me and impressed me, from what I tried to make a very positive and cordial response, and ran with it.

No, I didnt take it as an olive branch Vic. Dont flatter yourself. I was just willing to drop it, but Im like you, I can stick around, as long as Im allowed and toss bombs back and forth with you. I dont care. I really wish I could have contacted the man that does know more than either of us, but I must have written his number down wrong. I may try to call his brother. He may not want to get in on a bunch of crap like this anyway. Tommys a very classy guy as well.

Andy

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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 10:12 AM      Profile for Jay Nistetter   Email Jay Nistetter         Edit/Delete Post 
Andy. No coy here. I scrolled through the thread skipping every other post and got lost on something I know nothing about but nonetheless caught my interest. Then the thread started heading south. Decided I had better start from the beginning and read it all but didn't have the time at the moment.

Something that I did wonder about was if a horse (or any animal for that matter) is predominately right-hooved or left like humans are.

As far as cheap shots? I pretty much dole them out to everyone and none are meant to be mean-spirited at a personal level.

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bucksnort
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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 12:13 PM      Profile for bucksnort   Email bucksnort         Edit/Delete Post 
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Im sure you couldnt have talked a "reputable" outfitter into letting you ride your horse that you forgot to shoe on the lion hunt. Im sure a "reputable" outfitter would have seen to it that you had another mount ready. Am I not right? I know, I know, he wasnt outfitting you, surely not, but since it was his gig, it would seem that he would have made sure that a good friend such as yourself would have been mounted properly, wouldnt he? I sure has hell wouldnt send one of my friends that I invited to hunt with me out on a four wheeler with one flat or four bald tires, even if he brought it.

Hey Andy, I do not appreciate your remarks above. So, what is your beef with me??????

Bruce A. Kennedy

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Andy L
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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 12:37 PM      Profile for Andy L           Edit/Delete Post 
No beef. Dont even know you Bruce. No more than you know me.

That was not a shot at you. That was just turning tables as the starter of this whole stupid mess had insinuted about me having a "premeir southwest guide/outfitter" and later talking that a "retputable outfitter" wouldnt have had us on barefoot horses.

I can see how you may have taken it that way, now. But it was nothing aimed at you.

You can thank Vic for that. He was the one that started that shit as well.

Andy

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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 01:15 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Andy, really, this is (will not be) a hostile remark or a cheap shot, in any way. But. You have been quarreling with a lot of people, of late; over there. As many people have observed, it takes (at least) two people to conduct a cat fight. So, you are not (exactly) letting anything slide.

BTW, Tesky is certainly welcome to contribute, if he has a mind. I don't know of anybody that has a beef with him, certainly not Vic?

As I read (your) comments about a reputable outfitter, I also took it as a dig at Bruce, although you are saying that it was not intended as such? That could be the limitations of the medium, as we are all aware. Vic's initial terms that he used were sarcastic, in my view, but not enough to put a burr under your saddle.

Did you know, Vic has been a pot stirrer for a long time? In fact, it was because he was arguing with me on another board, years ago ; that John Henry jumped in to defend his partner. That discusion got mean, and he never got over it. My version is that Vic started it. [Smile] But, at the time, we were going round and round, hammer and tong. Not anymore, no grudge, we are good friends. No so with JH. Bet you didn't know that?

Good hunting. LB

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Andy L
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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 01:46 PM      Profile for Andy L           Edit/Delete Post 
Your right Leonard. I havent let alot slide lately. Im tired of letting stuff slide. Im standing up for myself. I am arguing for what I thinks right. Im tired of being told whats right by alot of self proclaimed internet heros, only to find out they know no more, alot of times less, than I do. I sat quietly and bit my tounge while some of these dipshits shot off their mouths for years. So if I have a bad reputation, so be it. I talk enough in private with friends that I have made to know that they dont hold it against me. Thats all that matters to me.

See the politically correct thing to do would have been for piss ant me to take hero Vics ribbing and set quietly and lurk. Thats not going to happen. Then he got defensive and is still looking for some way to win his battle that he started.

As for Bruce, I admitted I could see where that didnt sound just right. If he takes offence, I apologize. That was not the intent. But I wont kiss his ass either, if thats what hes after.

Another thing with arguing, alot of it was over politics, and if I remember correctly, you were right there at my hip for a while, at least liking it that I was standing up for what I believed in, in that arena. I have had a couple of spats with others over there as well that I dont care for. Thats a whole nother story.

Ive noticed lately that its almost like you gotta choose sides. Either here or there. Thats nuts. There is enough talent and brains on both sides to be something great. Too bad egos and big heads wont let that happen.

Yeah, I know that Vic is a shit disturber. It took me a while to figure that out, partly because at first, I didnt know who he was on the boards, since he wont use his name anywhere and tends to change from time to time.

No I didnt know what happened between you and JH. JH never told me alot of anything, one way or the other, about you. He does talk of Vic, in good ways. Never heard him say a bad word about Vic. Never.

Ill tell you something else. As far as listening goes, Cal Taylor gets my respect more than anyone. This is not ass kissing, but my observation over the years. Cal know his stuff. No matter if its ADC work, trapping fur, calling fur, big game hunting, ranch work, horses, ect.... he is spot on, time after time. And he conducts himself well. Other than some playful jabs at various people once in a while, hes mostly business and accurate. I actually envy Cal. I wish things in my life would have worked out where I could have done things the way he has. I really respect Cal.

Leonard, you can say or do what you want. Show me where Vic cut me any slack or let anything slide? See, its like a double standard. He shouldnt have started this bullshit thread to start with. He was just fishing for a good bashing opportunity.

Andy

Edit: I found Toms number. Im not calling him now though. This thread not only got away from its orgininal intent, but also away from the barefoot intent. I dont think he would want anything to do with it now and I dont even want him to get his fingers dirty with this BS. Hes too good of a man for that.

[ September 28, 2005, 01:49 PM: Message edited by: Andy L ]

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Icon 12 posted September 28, 2005 03:20 PM      Profile for bucksnort   Email bucksnort         Edit/Delete Post 
Andy, NO, I am not a Guide and Outfitter, and you don't know what you are talking about. Vic called it a lion hunt, but it was no such thing. I had a new horse that I wanted to ride, just see how he was in the woods. I talked to Vic, and since he was going to the Predator Callers camp out, we decided to go two days early. His colt had never been in the woods and he wanted to see how he would do.

Vic told me the colt was not shod, and so we decided to make a short run up a road. We stayed in the road and was back in camp in 1 1/2 hours. Yes, I had two dogs with me, but only to get them out as well. We broke camp and headed to the Predator Callers camp.

If I have a friend that shows up in my camp, and I think he has a gimpy horse, I will ask, not tell him he has a gimpy horse.........that is his business, not mine. If somebody wants to ride a Shetland Pony, that is their business, not mine. Now, if I was being paid for a hunt, and somebody brought a gimpy horse, or a horse not shod, then I would talk to them and tell them what I think.

If you want to buy this notion of riding barefoot horses, then have at it. My horses are shod every 7 weeks, right on schedule. I am on my 15th and 16th horses right now. All of them have been ridden in the mountains. Not one single horse has ever come up gimpy, not one. They will be shod again in 3 weeks, and "Drill Tech" will be on their shoes, as that is a big safety factor in the conditions we endure. My horses are well fed, grained, and in condition. They are wormed on a regular basis and vacinations up to date.

My dogs are fed the best feed money can buy, and you will never see a worm hanging out of their butt!

Every night, when I come in from a hunt, I go over my dogs and horses with a fine tooth comb, to ensure all is well. Should I find a problem, I rest that animal. I try to rotate my horses on a daily basis, and my dogs are not run more than two days without a day's rest. If they make a hard run on day one, then we will rest the second day.

Vic is a very good friend of mine, and when Vic speaks, I listen to every word, because I know I am going to learn something.

Andy, I don't know what your problem is, nor do I want to know, but you seem to have a big burr under your blanket. Maybe you should take a walk in the woods; find a nice shady log, and sit and have a long talk with yourself. This post is not being critical or a shot at you, but just trying to tell you who/what I am......nothing more.

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Az-Hunter
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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 03:49 PM      Profile for Az-Hunter           Edit/Delete Post 
Andy; I was fishing to see if you killed a bear,and prefaced it with a little ribbing,which I read again, and for the life of me, can't see any real nastiness, unless I scratched a scab I didn't know was there?
You brought up the barefoot discussion,not me, I only disagreed,as well as a few others here that own and ride horses. My opinion was not to be presumed right, but to rightly state my thoughts on the subject.
You stated that neither you nor I had the experience to make any comment on the subject,and indeed you may not, but I do,and wanted to qualify my opinion with my history of experience.
From there, you ran with it,throwing every sucker punch you could muster. Im not one of the newbies that you try to rough up over on your side of town Andy. Ive seen your handy work over there,so don't play the victim over here. If you bring up a topic I know something about, and I happen to disagree, more than likely I'll voice it.
As for Dr Tesky,no, probably not a good idea to bring him into this conversation. We didn't ask about the new technique,you brought it up,I/we made comment, so it would be a dull choir for him to preach to. Kind of like having Jimmy Swaggart attend an athiest convention. Dr Tesky is a nice fella,he's done some vet work for me,and we have had casual conversation a time or two, not sure why you attempted to pit us against each other?
Ive never hunted with him Andy, or know him well enough to hold him in any particular regard concerning his views on any particular subject,so no....he might not "have me along" on a hunt, nor I him, We just don't know each other well enough. I presume your mention of that was to somehow put me down a notch, although Im not clear as to how?
Anyway.....Im out of gas on this one,I think you need to get a grip,no one is going to ban you, or name call;maybe disagree, but your free to stay and slug it out.

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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 04:00 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Hell no, Andy. Nobody's getting banned around here. In fact, I sort of like your spunk, so don't think you have to get back where you belong, or some such?

I just think you are being a little too sensitive on a couple issues. And, if I happen to agree with one man's position, I'm not "taking sides". See, I don't know anything about the barefoot issue, I'm only thinking of the millions of people that think otherwise.

Good hunting. LB

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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 04:12 PM      Profile for Andy L           Edit/Delete Post 
There you have it. Read back. Vic, I dont know what YOUR problem is. Your a great guy, other than on forums. I brought it up, for the umpteenth time, because it intrigued me. Nothing else. You ran with it. Pushed it. Because you couldnt get a rise out of anything else. Even in your first paragraph of your last post you couldnt help yourself but to dig a little deeper. Maybe you cant help it?

My intention was in no way to pit you against Tom. I thought maybe that if you heard and saw what I did, maybe, just maybe a little light could be shed and you may understand. I believe that you know a little about horses. But I dont believe you have any idea about the real nuts and bolts of what Tommy is trying to do. I didnt imply that Tommy wouldnt have you. I just didnt want to speak for him or set him up to do something without his permission. Like he told me, most people you can talk to til your blue in the face, but they will understand alot more if they see it. Both the trimming and riding.

As for slappin around newbies, yeah, Ive done a bit of it. You havent? Bullshit. Your as bad as anyone to jump on any subject you see that you can slap someone around with your wealth of knowlege.

Bruce, think what you want, I could care less. You mean nothing to me, to put it bluntly. I didnt know you before, or now and dont care what you think or say. Vic is the one that said he went on a lion hunt with you in some mountains somewhere, not me.

Vic, like I said, I still got alot of respect for you. I think everything I have ever been told about you are true. Thats awesome to say the least. But its mighty hard to command respect when you give none. I got a gut full of nothing but smart remarks and lack of respect in return. You must also hold very high feelings of yourself.

Leonard, Ill drop it. Let the boys get in their last punches. They gotta do that to save face. Ill stick around, but probably go back to lurk mode again. This is a good site. Too bad some of the folks got a big ass chip on their shoulder.

Good Day
Andy

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Andy, your right, this is a great site, the best im my opinion. I don't know of another site where so many, with so much experience and knowledge exists but right here at Leonards place. I will disagree(one last time) about big ass chips on shoulders, Ive not seen that displayed on this board? There are just to many savvy guys,with experience and knowledge about so many things, that if a guy tries to blow smoke, he's gonna get called on it. No one reigns supreme here,hell we have guys like ole Danny that have been doing this stuff as long as you and I have been alive!(big smiley face here Danny)
On a personal note,and take this literally like I was looking at you eye to eye, so as not to be confused with goading you ok. You owe me absolutely no respect, just as I owe you none. We only know each other thru this medium and one breif face to face meeting. Respect is earned, not given, it takes a long relationship and knowledge of a man to either give respect to him, or recieve it from him,you and I don't know each other well enough to do either.
I trust you'll stick around if you choose,and hope to see you contribute. Take no offense if I disagree with you, and I will take none if you disagree with me. Be a mighty boring damned place if all we did was nod our heads in agreement at every conversation that takes place here don't you think?
See you around the next thread, whatever it might be, hell, we might even be on the same page........or not:)

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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2005 08:06 PM      Profile for Andy L           Edit/Delete Post 
Good enough. No respect given, none expected. I like it better that way anyhow.

Oh, and I see you were trying to get in one more shot there. I wasnt blowing smoke. You asked and I answered. I didnt lie. I didnt blow smoke. You asked, I answered, it wasnt the answer you wanted and it went south from there.

I dont know why anyone is still talking about horses. That subject left the building long ago it appears to me.....

I must disagree with you one more time as well. Its about respect. I dont think your definition is quite detailed enough. With the age of boards like this and email, you CAN develope respect for someones opinions and statements. Thats my opinion anyway. Kinda like I used to respect yours....

Andy

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Icon 6 posted September 28, 2005 08:16 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
You guys need to work on your olive branches. [Smile]

(just a liter bit)

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Az-Hunter
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Andy, again, take what I said literal, I meant nothing about horses, or getting in some kind of precieved "shot"? If I shoot, you'll know it ok? I was speaking in general terms, about general subjects that arise here, nothing more.
Your reading something into, whats just not there. We are so close to being on the same page, I can feel it.
Ive picked this post apart word by word, tried to be as straight forward and to the point as I can. I trust the only response I will see from you is "sounds good to me".
There Leonard, my olive branch has been laid,and Im sincere....thats all I can do.

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Very good, too. Thanks

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Icon 1 posted September 29, 2005 04:05 AM      Profile for Andy L           Edit/Delete Post 
Ok, heres my branch too. Good Enough.

(**** *** *** *** ******) [Smile]

(Not worded verbatim as you wanted, but that is going to have to do)

Now we can argue in code.... [Wink]

Andy

[ September 29, 2005, 04:27 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]

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Andy L
HI, I'M THE NEW MODERATOR OF THE CENTRAL MISSOURI FORUM, PULL MY FINGER!
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Icon 1 posted September 29, 2005 04:31 AM      Profile for Andy L           Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard,
Does this mean, after what you said in an earlier post, that we are all going to be good friends now and later on when someone asks we can all say it was Victors fault? [Big Grin]

(That was a joke. Not to be taken literal by anyone. It was a weak attempt by me, at best, to bring some sort of light humor into the end of this whole thing. Any feelings that may have been hurt or upset would be purely by accident and this disclaimer can also be used as an apology.) [Big Grin]

Maybe I outta put that on my signature line?

Andy

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted September 29, 2005 07:39 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, exactly. We can, and should blame Victor. [Big Grin]

Maybe you didn't see the little bitchy dig that Vic put up in his Olive Branch? There, in the above post, I told him that I appreciated his effort, except for that one thing, and he went and edited it for us, which really was a nice gesture. So, that isn't code in the parentheses, it's just my (supposedly) humorous edit.

And, yes, it is entirely possible that the two of you will become friends. For example: at one time, Higgins and Carlson used to be at odds. Higgins and Huber used to be at odds. I like to think I helped repair those relationships, at least a bit. There's hope.

Good hunting. LB

edit: hope for all, except me and, you know who.

[ September 29, 2005, 07:41 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Andy L
HI, I'M THE NEW MODERATOR OF THE CENTRAL MISSOURI FORUM, PULL MY FINGER!
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Icon 1 posted September 29, 2005 08:20 AM      Profile for Andy L           Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, I saw the little "******" gig. I was thinking of what I wanted to do, but by the time I did, he changed it. So, I went to code. [Smile]

Have a good day. Hopefully better than yesterday. [Wink]

Andy

[ September 29, 2005, 08:23 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]

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2dogs
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Leonard...The Peace Maker [Cool] .

When I was in high school, I was getting into fist fights with the local bullies. End result, they, ie;[School Administration]. Would "stick" the two hooligans into the "Cooler Room". A small 6'x6' room off of the back of the library.

Hmmmm [Confused] , I guess their "theory" was either. You two will [kill each other]...or perhaps make [peace].

I'm still floppin,

ex-Cooler dogs [Big Grin]

edit; Only thing I had in common with these guys[thugs] were...[Old] National Geographic magazine, tribal woman [Eek!] . If ya want to call that "bonding" [Smile]

[ September 29, 2005, 11:13 AM: Message edited by: 2dogs ]

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