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Topic: Which caller is best for me?
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Cal Taylor
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posted December 21, 2006 03:08 PM
Chad, the new remote takes a little getting used to after running the other ones, but overall I would say it is better. It has 4 pre sets for your favorites and it has a timer that lets you know exactly how long you have been on stand. Switching sounds and mute work instantly and it even has volume control from 0 to 40 so you know exactly where your volume is. So far mine has worked perfectly. I'm glad I switched.
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UTcaller
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posted December 21, 2006 03:15 PM
Cal,
That's exactly what I'm looking for, especially the volume indicator.Thanks Good Hunting Chad
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Cal Taylor
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posted December 21, 2006 05:26 PM
Hopefully I can post this link. FoxPro
[ December 21, 2006, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: Cal Taylor ]
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Greenside
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posted December 21, 2006 05:55 PM
Cal,
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If you operate a caller this way, your success rate is sure to tumble.
Speculation? Or proven fact?
Dennis
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Cal Taylor
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posted December 21, 2006 06:53 PM
Dennis, Obviously I didn't write that, so I'm sorry I don't have that answer for you.
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Norm
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posted December 22, 2006 05:46 AM
Tripp, I hope you were able to get the information you needed.
I would say that there are plenty of callers out there that will meet your needs.
All of the manufactures have people that love them and then don't. All are continually looking to improve their callers as technology becomes affordable for them to do so.
It is like any given Saturday. All football teams are created equal. they all have a chance to win and loose. But then everyone seems to have their favorite and a list of reasons why.
Good luck in your decision making.
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Kokopelli
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posted December 22, 2006 07:14 AM
All true, what Norm pointed out, plus you may want to consider this...FoxPro has the 'new, improved, double speaker, all of the bells & whistles' model out. A fine unit, I've been told. So.....there should be some used 416 FoxPros around for sale by people who have upgraded. If you're not in a hurry, it might be worth your while to look around ebay & other sources for a 416 w/remote and the recording adapter.
Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Greenside
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posted December 22, 2006 10:46 AM
Sorry Cal, Just had a question. Wasn't nessacarily directed at you.
I'm a little confused on this amp clipping, and if it really has an effect on calling coyote. or is the concern about burning up a speaker with a under-powered amp?
What gets clipped out of a ARROOOO.WAAAAAA or an OOWWWWW? Do they become a loud arrooo,waaaa or oowww? Will it greatly reduce my success if the top and the bottom of that sound wave are missing.
[ December 22, 2006, 10:47 AM: Message edited by: Greenside ]
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Rich
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posted December 22, 2006 11:39 AM
Greenside,
Click on the foxpro link that Cal posted. I don't know how true that the statements found after clicking said link are actual fact. I can tell you that I will be finding out real quick though. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Greenside
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posted December 22, 2006 12:33 PM
Rich, I have alot of questions on that one also, especially the part about playing one to loud and seeing your success rate tumble.
Does a 7:1 power advantage mean that one would be 3.5 times louder with the same speaker? Or in the case of two speakers running on the foxpro would that make it 7 times louder at max volume.
How concerned would I really have to be about the clipping and distortion?
Wouldn't all callers have some clipping or distortion and if so, do some handle it differently? Thinking that an amp pushing a mid range speaker might be clipping differently that one pushing a high range speaker?
Do most prey distress sounds have mid range harmonics?
Dennis
[ December 22, 2006, 12:43 PM: Message edited by: Greenside ]
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Rich
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posted December 22, 2006 12:45 PM
Greenside,
The foxpro guy who wrote that information you find after clicking the link is talking about what can happen if you try to crank an AMPLIFIER higher than it was designed to handle. I have new knowledge that I can not reveal just yet. What I can tell you is this----Never underestimate the wonders of evolution. Long live Minaska callers!
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Greenside
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posted December 22, 2006 12:59 PM
Well Rich, You might say that I was only a phone call away from owning one. I called them last week and got the answering machine stating to leave a message and number and they would call back as soon as possible. My message was I wanted to order a BC. So far no return call.
Dennis
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Rich
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posted December 22, 2006 01:07 PM
Greenside,
Sorry to hear that Dennis. I called them today and had no problem getting through.
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coyote whacker
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posted December 24, 2006 07:01 AM
Rich you have "new information" but can't post it yet? Come on the answer to many questions are in those words? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Dan Carey
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posted December 24, 2006 08:01 AM
The Foxpro is a good unit, I have one. The down side of Foxpro is they want your money every year when they bring out the new model. The 532 was the state of -their- art model in 2004, in 2005 it was their FX3 and you guessed it, in 2006 it is the FX5. They say you can convert the FX3 to an FX5 for 200+ dollars. What does 2007 hold for the varmint callers. What ever it is it will be 200+ dollars, if you have a FX5 and 400 if you have a FX3 and 1000 dollars if you have a 2004 model.
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UTcaller
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posted December 24, 2006 09:06 AM
There are not to many companies out there anymore that would let you upgrade from one model to the next years,for the price difference in the new model.You don't have to do it if you don't want to but the option is there.I think that's just good business on Foxpro's part.
Plus I like the fact that they are continuing to upgrade the technoligy and making a better unit year after year.I guess it's all in how you look at it "the glass is half empty or the glass is half full."LOL Good Hunting Chad
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Cal Taylor
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posted December 24, 2006 09:23 AM
Yep, they all do it, car companies, gun manufacturers, call makers etc. etc....
I think the e-call business will just keep upgrading just like the rest and that is great for us. Some, like Loudmouth will fade away but it seems like FoxPro and Minaska are here for the long haul and will have new products every year. That doesn't mean that last years model still won't work. I'm driving vehicles that are several years old, but they still get me where I want to go and a 532 will still call coyotes. So will a Tally-Ho. I really don't understand why some people complain about advancements in technology. I don't see the need to upgrade vehicles every year and can't personally afford it. I would love to have a brand new Toyota Tacoma double cab for a trapping and coyote hunting truck, but as of now I have a 96 Dodge Dakota. But I don't mind that Toyota has a new model Tacoma with 4 doors out. The bow business is another and some guys have to have the new model every year. I'm shooting (gasp) a 4 year old model BowTech. I'll trade up one of these days, but I'm not going to worry about my 4 year old bow being able to kill stuff, it seems to do fine. My favorite rifles are still built on old Sako actions, even though they have newer ones out that are supposed to be improved. I'm gald I have an FX5, it has some really neat features, but I could go back to a 416 or 532 FoxPro tommorrow and still be perfectly happy with thier performance.
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Rich
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posted December 24, 2006 10:20 AM
coyote whacker,
I have been sworn to secrecy. One of those trade secrets that Field Staff learn about before the hottest new gizmo hits the market.
I agree with Cal Taylor. Upgrades are good for the consumer. My old Bandit works just fine the way it is. Electronics is one area where advancements in technology are happening very quickly. There are a few upgrades that I plan to have them install in my old Bandit that will make it even better than it is now. I may just drive down to Lincoln and drop it off. There is always the chance that I can talk Steve or Todd into buying my lunch while I am there.
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Tim Behle
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posted December 24, 2006 11:55 AM
Cal,
You don't want a four door double cab for hunting and trapping, the wheel base is to long, you'd drag and get high centered everywhere you went.
I want one of those little Toyota or Datsun mini trucks, the things go anywhere, and last forever.
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Cal Taylor
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posted December 24, 2006 04:23 PM
I know that the short wheel base is great Tim, but I have too much junk. And seems like coyote hunting more often I have 1 or 2 other people along. That and then rifles etc. it is hard to have too much room. I have a 3/4 ton Dodge diesel double cab for guiding hunters and pulling a horse trailer and it is a hell of a truck, but way to much for trapping and calling. I hunted this summer alot out of our old 4 runner and like it pretty good but it's not much of an outfit for trapping. I have all my trapping stuff loaded in my Yamaha Rhino and have been pulling it around to trapping spots, and am going to have to figure something new out soon because my county got some extra money and I am officially hired for some trapping and aerial hunting from now into the forseeable future right on through denning so I am going to be putting on a ton of miles in the near future.
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Rich
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posted December 25, 2006 06:43 AM
"I am officially hired for some trapping and aerial hunting from now into the forseeable future right on through denning so I am going to be putting on a ton of miles in the near future."
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Shut the hell up Cal. I'm as jealous as a tom cat that just lost his pussy to the cool cat on other side of the tracks.
Lord I apologize for that right up there, and please be with the starving pygmies in Africa--Amen
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Cal Taylor
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posted December 25, 2006 07:31 AM
It's not all that big of deal Rich, I have denned for them for several years. They just got a little extra money to spend and wanted me to do a little other work. It will mostly be snares and M44s till den time. They also contracted a pile of helicopter time.
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Rich
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posted December 25, 2006 07:55 AM
Cal Taylor,
I think that it is nice that you can scratch out a living by doing the things that you like to do. Not many men are able to do that.
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DAA
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posted December 26, 2006 09:42 AM
Chad, just to chime in and agree with Cal on the new FX5 remote... I am REALLY liking this new remote. For me and how I use my Foxpro, I think it is a big improvement. I use most of the new features on just about every stand. The presets are great, and I love being able to see whether I am muted and what my volume level is on the screen. Range and responsiveness seem improved too. I give it two thumbs way up.
- DAA
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UTcaller
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posted December 26, 2006 09:48 AM
Thanks Dave.I think I will send my FX3 in after February for the upgrade.From what I've seen in the advertisements that new remote is very imppressive.Thanks again Dave and Cal.Good Hunting Chad
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