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tlbradford
Rimfires are MAGIC on COYOTES! If you do your part
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posted December 04, 2010 09:54 PM
Corporate taxes are not figured on bids. Why would a company add any money to a bid if they have no idea if they are going to make money for the year? Just to submit a higher proposal. Labor taxes are included in bids. That is it. Maybe this explains the class warfare, because you have no idea what your employer is actually doing.
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector
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posted December 05, 2010 12:44 AM
I don't know all the finer details but still know whats going on and how the company does things.
A daily progress report is sent in every nite to the office, equipement operator hrs. are document along with hrs and amount of fuel burned on each machine and amount of material moved. All this information is put into a computer to keep track of costs and production and is also used for bidding on jobs. No stone is left unturned so when bids are made they have a pretty good idea of how much to tack onto a bid for profit. The company I work for is'nt in the business to lose money. At times they even bid on jobs for a filler to just break even, but everyone is still working and the machines are makeing money. If a crew gets behind in production due to weather then a special crew is sent in to make up for lost time...
Alot of companies don't operate this way and thats why they are struggleing or no longer in business.
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JohnLK
Pro-Staff Great/Michigan Sector
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posted December 05, 2010 05:23 AM
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If the taxes are higher then the bid for jobs willbe higher, its all figured in on the bids... So tax away..
.So you are admitting that rising taxes on business causes the prices of goods and services to go up. That trickles down to the average Joe.
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Paul Melching
Radical Operator Forum "You won't get past the front gate"
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posted December 05, 2010 06:32 AM
Tim
You are by all acounts a great hunter , a great rifleman , A great trapper and fur handler , probably a great heavy equipment operator, how on earth did you accomplish all that witout a lick of common sense. Do you not see the connection between raising taxes and inflicting harm to the economy.Wealth trickles down poverty trickles up. When taxes go up investors hold on to thier capital,they can afford to wait for more profitble circumstances. Loans for growth or expasion are not available to the small and medium size bussiness owners they stop hiring and when things contiue to slow they lay off. what part of this are you missing.People that have had 99 weeks of unemployment payout are taking that money from you if thats okay with you send me a couple of grand just because I need it, didnt think so.If you are working think of your household as a bigger company than someone that is unemployed why should you fund the smaller company. I can understand the need for temporary assitance but at some point its got to end. I forgot who said it but it goes something like this ; The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money. Tim it aint that hard to grasp.
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6mm284
Knows what it's all about
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posted December 05, 2010 06:44 AM
The US has one of the highest if not highest coporate tax structure in the world. Where would you take your company.
Companies that are public are owned by the shareholders,any of us with a retirement account. I want them to make money.
Taxing the so called" wealthy " a bunch does not generate enough taxes to amount to sqaut as opposed to taxing the majority a fraction.. It is simply class warfare as LB says. Find and boogey man an attack him.
I think tax cuts should be given to all Americans paying any taxes not based on earning but based on being an American citizen regardless of income.
Corporations can expense taxes and therefore spread those additional taxes over per unit cost. Raising the cost of the product to the consumer who ends up paying those taxes.
God save us from the Liberals.
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Leonard
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posted December 05, 2010 07:38 AM
Yeah, I think I'm ready for a FLAT TAX. There is nothing the Liberals can do to it, the taxing. They will have to concentrate on the spending, their forte'.
Good hunting. LB
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Rich
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posted December 05, 2010 07:46 AM
A FLAT tax would be good if that so called FLAT tax was actually fair. I am just a simple old Fogey but when I hear the idiots in Congress speak of a 25 percent flat tax, I slap myself in the forehead. My God guys, that would be a tremendous tax hike for every single one of us middle class folks, WTF ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector
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posted December 05, 2010 09:19 AM
Paul you need to understand, I'm not in favor of raiseing any taxes, would like to see them lowered myself. All I'm saying is if the gov. needs more money and wants to increase taxes then get it from the big companies. If they can afford to give million dollar bonus then they can afford to pay a little more taxes...
If the owner of the company I work for can help get a fuel tax increase passed in the state house and it dose'nt bother him that he also has to pay this larger fuel tax maybe its not as badd as some may think..
Now lets get to calling. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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You are by all acounts a great hunter , a great rifleman , A great trapper and fur handler
As for this comment,Thanks! But no I'm just a hunter and nothing more... ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
[ December 05, 2010, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
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UTcaller
NEVADA NIGHT FIGHTER
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posted December 05, 2010 09:42 AM
Tim,
You ever think that maybe he wanted to get the taxes raised on fuel so that EVERYONE that buys fuel has to pay for those jobs to be created not just the rich business owners getting taxed at a higher rate to pay for those same jobs.
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Leonard
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posted December 05, 2010 10:13 AM
Well, you know the Democrats are going after our inheritance tax, our mortgage exemption, and our $250,000 real estate sale exemption.
I don't know what the amount of flat tax would be, but I assume there will still be deductions?
Them assholes need our money to do the social engineering things they are desperate for. Even if it costs them another election; it is that bad.
Good hunting. LB
edit: BTW, Paul what kind of weed you been smokin'? I dunno? Tim's still a road hunter, ain't he?
[ December 05, 2010, 10:16 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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TA17Rem
Hello, I'm the legendary Tim Anderson, Field Marshall, Southern Minneesota Sector
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posted December 05, 2010 10:24 AM
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edit: BTW, Paul what kind of weed you been smokin'? I dunno? Tim's still a road hunter, ain't he?
You would be surprised to find that some of youre closest friends shoot coyotes from the road. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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