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Locohead
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Icon 1 posted February 11, 2004 09:08 PM      Profile for Locohead   Email Locohead         Edit/Delete Post 
I was talking to this guy on the phone up in Wyoming last week. He told me that in some areas he hunts, he won't touch a killed coyote because the Plague has killed a bunch of prairie dogs and coyotes. He even mentioned something about a Fish & Game guy being hospitalized because of it.

I'd never heard of such a thing.

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DAA
Utah/Promoted WESTERN REGIONAL Hunt Director
Member # 11

Icon 1 posted February 12, 2004 06:07 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
Yup. In p-dogs, it's called sylvanic plague. Same fleas bite us, we get bubonic plague. I don't know how coyotes fit into the picture. No doubt those same fleas could hitch a ride on a coyote though. Two years ago, I know the plague was hitting the p-dogs in Thunder Basin pretty hard. The ranch I was shooting on, is on the north edge, and he was pretty excited that "the plague was coming". Called him last year, and he said he didn't have any prairie dogs left to speak of.

I know there have been several people in the last four or five years come down with plague from contact with p-dogs over closer to you Loco.

It definitely happens.

- DAA

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varmit hunter
Knows what it's all about
Member # 37

Icon 1 posted February 12, 2004 08:25 AM      Profile for varmit hunter   Email varmit hunter         Edit/Delete Post 
In 67 the Army gave us plague shots before going to Nam. I wonder if they are available for civilians?.

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RayG
Knows what it's all about
Member # 9

Icon 7 posted February 12, 2004 11:39 AM      Profile for RayG   Email RayG         Edit/Delete Post 
varmit hunter
Plauge shots are available, talk to your doctor. Tell him that you often go into areas where the plague fleas are common and he can get you that shot.

Have a Safe Hunting Day [Smile] [Smile]
Ray

[ February 12, 2004, 11:40 AM: Message edited by: RayG ]

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Leonard
HMFIC
Member # 2

Icon 1 posted February 12, 2004 01:40 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
We have plague down around Parker, once in a while, ground squirrels, but it's not a huge problem, as far as I know?

I didn't know there was a vaccine? The buzz, the past few years has been Hanta Virus. That's a serious problem in certain areas of the southwest, including right here in California.

HEY RAY!

I replied to your email, a few days ago, but I didn't get the link I requested, to the new CVCA site?

Good hunting. LB

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onecoyote
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Member # 129

Icon 1 posted February 12, 2004 03:18 PM      Profile for onecoyote           Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard, is this the one? http://www.thevarmintcallers.com It's the old site Frank put together and I think Ray got it back on line, thanks Ray. [Wink]

[ February 12, 2004, 03:19 PM: Message edited by: onecoyote ]

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RayG
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Member # 9

Icon 1 posted February 12, 2004 06:37 PM      Profile for RayG   Email RayG         Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard,

I didn't receive a reply from you. Hmmm wonder if my spam catcher caught you.

Danny has it right, www.thevarmintcallers.com and it is what Frank built. I hope I can get every element working properly and start adding to it.

Ray

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Barndog
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Icon 1 posted February 13, 2004 12:26 PM      Profile for Barndog   Author's Homepage   Email Barndog         Edit/Delete Post 
Where I grew up the Utah prairie dog is highly endangered. A big NO-NO to shoot. The government would set live traps, and relocate the animals to a new area, they nearly wipped out the entire species by doing this. They were mixing the animals up from different colonies to diversify the species, but what they were doing was spreading the plague, some colonies could tolerate different strands more than others but when exposed to everything they had entire prairie dog towns dieing. So then 10 years later they decided not to relocate them, That little varmit starting taking over the entire town. The new post office building to be built down town was delayed for two years while they brought in earth quake machines to scare away a pair before construction. A furniture store paid the government $50,000 in mitigation for a 1 acre parcel. An entire industrial park sits in weeds waiting to be built. When something is built a biologist is required to monitor for any prairie dogs killed in the construction. When an animal is found its bagged and sent off for autopsy. Two years ago they nearly took over the city golf course, until some brave soul(s) put a fix to the problem. Come spring when the government did their count, not one prairie dog could be found on the course and that was the largest known colony. Soon the federal boys from Washington showed up, knocking on doors, accusing husbands, trying to get women to confess for husbands, starting spreading a bunch of stories and pointing fingers. Two weeks later the town folk had enough, 4:30 a.m. the S.W.A.T. team knocked on the feds door showed legal papers for herassment charges and asked them to pack their bags. It's too bad the plague didn't finish the job ten years ago.
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DAA
Utah/Promoted WESTERN REGIONAL Hunt Director
Member # 11

Icon 1 posted February 13, 2004 01:29 PM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
Amen to that Barndog.

I feel real sorry for that guy they charged with killing some of those golf course dogs. It would be about like bringing someone in New York City up on federal charges for killing a stinking rat. Bunch of BULL CRAP.

- DAA

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