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posted October 28, 2005 09:03 AM
Just wanted to see how many of you guys will be in Rawlins? It's kind of nice to put the faces with the call sign
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Leonard
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posted October 28, 2005 10:33 AM
When?
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Cal Taylor
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posted October 28, 2005 07:46 PM
Next Friday and Saturday Leonard. Get you a partner and come on up! It's a good time. Calcutta and check in on Thursday night. I'll be there.
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Leonard
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posted October 28, 2005 08:05 PM
I "thought" retirement would allow me to do more of these out-of-state things? I guess what I found out was; who is in charge.
Good hunting. LB
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Kokopelli
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posted October 28, 2005 08:23 PM
What IS that Calcutta thing??
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Leonard
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posted October 28, 2005 08:39 PM
An Auction. What it means is that you can bid on Cal's team to win. A separate pool.
Good hunting. LB
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NASA
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posted October 28, 2005 09:10 PM
An auction, or a side bet pool for the winning team? Is it called an auction as a shield for gambling?
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Jack Roberts
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posted October 28, 2005 10:20 PM
NASA
Yes! And the odds, as usual, favor the house.
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catskin
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posted October 28, 2005 11:13 PM
Gimme $20 on Cal to Show, I'm good for it - promise.
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Cal Taylor
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posted October 29, 2005 07:01 AM
Yep, it's gambling. And we drink beer too! It can get pretty entertaining, with the better known teams bringing some large $$$$. The unfair part is that some of the lesser known teams are just as good and don't bring much money and can buy themselves far cheaper and that just ain't fair. But I do my best to see that doesn't happen. Just ask ND!! We always try to buy ourselves, but it can get rather pricey and last year was no exception. At Rawlins, they donate 10 or 15 percent to a scholarship fund and the rest goes back into the pot for the top 3 teams. It usually pays several thousand dollars to win.
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NASA
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posted October 29, 2005 08:29 AM
Not being at all familiar, I have to ask. Several thou to the winning team, or to the winner of the Calcutta? Or, is the Calcutta the jackpot awarded to the winning team? In 40 years of killing coyotes I've never been in a contest, so this is all foreign.
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Cal Taylor
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posted October 29, 2005 09:28 AM
Nasa, Whoever buys the winning team in the auction collects the calcutta money. Most teams try to buy themselves, but not all. It is an open auction and anyone there is free to buy any team they wish, sold at auction to the highest bidder. For example, if you were there, and wished to buy the Johnson team you would have to be the highest bidder in the auction, then if they happened to to place in the top three, you would win. The calcutta pays three places. The hunt entry fees are seperate, $200 per team, and placed in a seperate pool, and the teams are also competeing for that money. They usually pay eight places in the hunt pool. So if you have 80 teams at $200 a team you have $16,000 in that pool.
[ October 29, 2005, 09:31 AM: Message edited by: Cal Taylor ]
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NASA
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posted October 29, 2005 09:53 AM
Thanks Cal, I wish I could get there in time for the bidding process. I'd like to see it in action. I may be able to get there by Fri. night, though. Is there a check-in each day? If so, where and what time. I've been to Rawlins a few times, so I kinda know the town. If you see a big Ford with FURDOWN plates, that's me. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Cal Taylor
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posted October 29, 2005 10:59 AM
Nasa,
There is a checkin by 7:00 p.m. on Friday night and then again at 2 or 3 pm on Saturday. Then another beer drinking contest on Saturday night. Everything is held at The Lodge (motel) on the east side of town.
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Leonard
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posted October 29, 2005 11:11 AM
It's a little like a horse race, Tom. If you have an experienced team, hunting good area, they have a good chance of winning. When you kill everything you see, it boils down to ; how many did you see?
Of course, how are you going to know this, cold?
Maybe we could get together and pool our money on Cal's "Huntmasters Team"?
Actually, what it is all about is your contacts. If you can get behind locked gates, it's a step in the right direction.
Now, if Cal shared his previously negotiated hunting area with me, I might roll? I bet he has more area than one team can use? Hunting cold is tough. That is where locals have the upper hand.
Good hunting. LB
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NASA
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posted October 29, 2005 11:33 AM
Sounds a lot like a horse race, in more ways than one. ![[Wink]](wink.gif) I plan to do my best to get there in time for the Saturday check-in and beer bash. Then dash back to CO on Sunday morning. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Byron South
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posted October 29, 2005 01:24 PM
Cal,
We used to have calcutta's at the bigger bullridings around. Here is a tip on how to buy yourself a little cheaper at these deals. You'll have to tailor it to coyote hunting but the effects will be the same. Show up wearing stupid looking clothes and getting around on crutches. I woukld think maybe an eye patch and maybe one arm in a sling would help as well. Plaser is cheap and a cast to your hip could save some money as well.
Good luck, and kill a bunch.
Byron ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Cal Taylor
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posted October 29, 2005 04:35 PM
I'd try it Byron, if I thought it would help. But I'm too close to home and we've placed there before. But we didn't place last year, so that may help, well actually about 5 or 6 teams tied for about 6th through 11th or 12th, and ties are broken by check in time, and we were the last to check in so we didn't place. Leonard, if I had the ground I'd share, but we have an on going battle with another team for the same territory. Hopefully this year we will have most of it to ourselves. Last year we thought we were the only ones with permission in certain areas, and found out we were wrong. I hate it when that happens.
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Rich Higgins
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posted October 30, 2005 08:27 AM
Cal, do you take your dogs on the contest hunts?
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Cal Taylor
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posted October 30, 2005 10:12 AM
Nope Rich, They are pretty specific about that. No Dogs, No night hunting, no snowmobile hunting, no airplanes, partners must stay together (ask Scott Huber about that one) etc. etc..
If it weren't for all these damn rules, I might have a chance.
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Greenside
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posted October 30, 2005 10:35 AM
Cal,
Do you have to be checked in by the given time frame or is that when they start? If you weren't concerned about a tie breaker what would the latest that you could show up.
Just wondering about how many miles from Rawlins a guy could actually hunt and still make checkin.
Dennis
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Leonard
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posted October 30, 2005 11:38 AM
That's a big part of it, Dennis. One more stand equals one more dog. Maybe two more dogs? But you lose a couple places in line. A judgement call. You can be disqualified for reckless driving, too. Some guys might hunt two hours drive, if they think it's worth the downtime? More, maybe? Judgement call. A close in hunting area with a lot of animals is worth a lot.
Good hunting. LB
edit: there is no allowance for being thirty seconds late, you are disqualified, period. Lots of teams trade an extra animal for arriving a minute or two too late. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Doggitter
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posted October 30, 2005 12:17 PM
I and a friend hunted the Elko game a couple years ago and I never did get a straight understanding to what the hunting together part menat. Do you have a clear understanding of exactly what the rule there means? Within sight of each other, 10 yards, out of the same vehicle, teamed up????
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posted October 30, 2005 03:33 PM
Doggitter, I believe that means a two person team must hunt together, it does not mean you have to make stands together. Example...Drop off one guy to make a stand as the other one goes down the road a 1/2 mile and makes a stand. You are not hunting together, but you are as far as a team goes.
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Cal Taylor
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posted October 30, 2005 03:50 PM
At Rawlins the way they explained it to me is that the truck can't move without both hunters in it. So you can't drop one guy off, and travel down the road to make another stand. Supposedly you are supposed to pretty much be on the same stand, but that is a pretty grey area, as to how far you can be apart.
As for the check ins, you can be early, but you can't be late.
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