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Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on August 31, 2006, 12:24 PM:
Another secret admirer of Cal's on PM posted that we are again sitting around here telling each how great we are. So why not?? There really is a lot of talent here.
Vic is Vic Carlson,
one of the original "Coyote Gods" and a pioneer of all this internet predator hunting stuff.
Ronnie Robison
is a Goldstaff for Lohman Predator Calls. He has been in the American Hunter twice, Alabama Sportsman, Predator extreme twice. Cover of the 25th anniversary addition of Trapper & Predator Caller, plus a couple of articles and three or four side bars in T & P. Also was invited to judge the NRA first Worlds All-round calling contest were each entrant had to be proficient in calling seven different species. He has appeared in three Lohman videos, and three of their TV shows.
Cal Taylor
is a caller of many accomplishments. It would be best if Cal lists his own resume.
Everyone here is great, tell us how.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on August 31, 2006, 02:42 PM:
Leonard B. is the greatest of all. He even went to Africa and came back with several exotic trophy's to prove it. He is better looking than most great hunters, and he even invented the famous magic mist.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 31, 2006, 02:44 PM:
Sounds like the makings of a democratic convention to me.
Anyone who knows me knows why I'm great. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Seriously, a lot of talent whose experience and resume's speak for themselves.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on August 31, 2006, 03:01 PM:
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Seriously, a lot of talent whose experience and resume's speak for themselves.
Lance, you have an impressive resume. It will not speak for itself. You do it.
Rich Cronk. you have accomplished much since you began calling with Noah. List it. I honestly want to know. The weight of accomplishment of our members will astound the ACCs and the 'yotehunter2000s and quite probably most of us. The hell with anonymity, SHOW ME.
Too bad Les Johnson hasn't registered here. His resume would blow our socks off.
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 31, 2006, 04:29 PM:
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Anyone who knows me knows why I'm great.
Are we talking waist size, tallywhacker length or experience in killing coyotes?
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 31, 2006, 05:06 PM:
I'll vouch for two out of three. WHich two is a matter of opinion.
Most people don't know it, but Noah managed to get two of everything on that ark only BECAUSE of Rich. Cronk was more than happy to help the youngsters get their project up and going.
Higgins,
I got nothing. I just write, and Scott says that don't mean much because some guys call coyotes, some guys write about it.
And another thing, is there something to most of us referring to one another by our given first names? Would it show respect and an unwillingness to refer to each other by our slang names??? Or, could it be that we just know so much about one another? Mutual experts, if you will.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on August 31, 2006, 05:21 PM:
Rich Higgins,
My Lord Higgins, do you actually believe that I can remember that long ago? I can tell you that the very first achievement of mine that is written in record books took place in 1969. I was very active in judo at the time, but only had five years or so of training and held brown belt first class (IKYU) when I drove to Des Moines, Iowa and entered the midwestern judo championship. I defeated a black belt from Kansas City and I won the 204 lb championship. During that same tournament, I fought the unlimited heavyweight champion and defeated him also.
In the hunting world, I had the reputation back in the 1970,s and 1980,s of being a guy who bagged his deer every year with bow and arrow. On Oct. 30th, 1985 I arrowed a ten point (eastern count) whitetail buck that is recorded in Pope& Young record book. He measured 171&3/8" Pope and Young points.
Going back a few years now. I got married july 30th, 1960. During that first ten years of marriage, I mostly scratched out a living with hard work and lots of sweat. During mid 1960,s, I learned to weld and so my wages started to climb. Welding was considered a "skilled" type of work back then. When I joined the Police Department in Febr of 1970, I took quite a cut in pay. It was there at the P.D. when I started earning a different type of reputation. Guys down at the cop shop knew that I would be there when things got rough. I can't tell you much about the blood and guts stuff that I was involved in, but I can tell you that I was sued for brutality a time or two.
I believe it was around the early part of the 1980,s when I became intested in calling coyotes. I had read an article in a hunting magazine about Murry Burnham and his calling expertise. I ordered an enclosed reed Burnham brothers fox call right away. A friend down at the cop shop had a 45 rpm record of a screaming cottontail. I borrowed that record and copied the sound over to a cassete tape. One moonlight night after a fresh snow, I borrowed a cheap tape player from one of my kids. My son-in-law Mark Stuart and I took the tape player out to a farm which is about 30 miles north of here. We walked along in shadow of a tree line that bordered an open field. We picked a spot in the shadows of the trees to make our first stand. I walked out into the open field, set the tape player down in the snow about twenty yards from our chosen hidey hole and hit the go button. I had barely made it back to the tree I had picked to stand beside, when a coyote ran full bore out of the tree line and tried to take a bite out of the tape player. Mark bowled him over with a single shot ten gauge. I was hooked for life on coyote calling. Deer hunting was no thrill at all compared to the experience of calling a coyote in close.
I remember that the first couple of years that I called coyotes in western Iowa, they came real quick. Most of them came in just like a domestic dog would come to a whistle. Then I started observing that the coyotes were not coming like they once did. I drove down to texas and hunted with Murry Burnham for four days. I told him about how my calling wasn't working as well as it once did. Murry just smiled and said "They teach their young". The hunt with Mr. Burnham was a real honor as well as a learning experience. I will never forget the nice texas bobcat I took while on that hunt.
During my first couple of years of calling, most of my coyotes were called with a Burnham Brothers enclosed reed call, and a small harmonica type of call with cellophane reed that was called a "mini-squeal". It was made of a special plastic called tenite. The mini-squeal was a simple split sticks type. Just two flat sticks of plastic with that cellophane stetched between them. Then I decided that it would be even more of a challenge if I could call coyotes with a call I made myself. My first home made call was from a short length of deer antler that I drilled out and fit a JC products reed in it. The little call brought coyotes in just fine. After that, I decided that I may as well try to make a few calls and sell them. I used to make up a few calls and take them to trapping conventions, bow shoots, black powder shoots and etc. I would set-up a card table, lay out some calls, blow on em to gain attention and that is how I got started in call making hobby.
I can't remember what year that I went to the N.T.A. convention, but I have it written down and filed in my steel file cabinet. I believe it was in mid to late 1980's. I rented a booth inside one of the dealer's buildings, because it was raining cats and dogs outside. An old trapper stopped by my booth, and he wanted one of those cow horn howlers realy bad but didn't really want to shell out the bucks. He sat and talked for probably over an hour. He told me that he lived in Arkansas, but trapped down in texas all winter. He told of the thousands of acres behind locked gates which he had the keys to. He spoke of trapping and snaring coyotes for the live market. He told of live trapping bobcats with use of live roosters for attracter. I told the old boy that I would flat GIVE him a howler for free if he would invite me to stay at his trapping camp, and do a little calling down in texas. He agreed, and the old boy drew me a map which directed me to his trapping camp. My trip down to that trapping camp was the beginning of my glory days of texas, and it's many virgin eared coyotes.
Wayne Soper was a mountain of a man. Something over six feet tall and probably weighed over 300 pounds. His trapping camp was a rented farm house in Collingsworth county, Texas. He shared the camp with trapping legend Monte Dodson. Monte had not yet travelled from his Oklahoma home to get settled into the trapping camp for the winter, so it was just old Wayne Soper and I out there for a few days. Wayne taught me how to snare coyotes in the CRP fields, how he built his live traps for bobcat and how he setup the live traps with live roosters. To say that Wayne was a gold mine of trapping knowledge would be an under statement. He gave me a clock that he had made for me out of a #4 Victor longspring. I still have that clock. Wayne was killed in a traffic accident that same winter, and I inherited the keys to all of those locked gates on his texas trapline.
[ September 03, 2006, 06:29 AM: Message edited by: Rich ]
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on August 31, 2006, 05:38 PM:
Where is this wonderous post you are refering to Higgins?
Posted by Brad Norman (Member # 234) on August 31, 2006, 05:53 PM:
Does staring a thread about grubworms and getting 23 replies qualify as greatness?
Cal, I also want to see this resume.
Posted by PAyotehunter (Member # 764) on August 31, 2006, 06:27 PM:
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The weight of accomplishment of our members will astound the ACCs and the 'yotehunter2000s
Well just let me know when because so far I'm not filled with bewilderment.
Rich H.
You started this thread because of a post on PM.
Why did you drag ACC and myself into this??
Where is your list of accomplishments? ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
I would love to read them, maybe I will read something in them that would explain your bloated head. I seriously doubt it, but what the hell just post them for shits & giggles.
I will commend Rich for his accomplishments in Martial arts(I studied Judo also) and being an LEO.
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 31, 2006, 06:43 PM:
I can give you just a few of Professor Higgins highlights.
He is accomplished both in Ballroom Dancing and Martial arts. He hand crafts the most beautiful howlers that I have ever seen.
And he not only make the howlers, he is the most knowledgeable and best howler whom I have ever heard. He can tell you how a coyote will respond, before he blows a call.
He and his son take several novice callers out each year and introduce them to the sport of coyote calling, and when they enter one of the Phoenix club contests, they almost always win, or place in the top 5.
He spends a ton of his own money each year, traveling the country to visit with callers from all over, and learn the methods that they use in their home areas.
He has made several coyote hunting videos, that will probably never become top sellers, simply because they are educational videos, not a bunch of blood, guts and exploding "Dogs" videos that most guys put out.
Rich spends a ton of money each year, to increase his knowledge of coyotes, and then he comes here and shares that learned knowledge with all of us for FREE.
Anyone who would ever slight the man and what he's done for the world of predator callers, has obviously never met the man, and doesn't have a clue of who they are talking about.
Besides that, he's got a hell of a good sense of humor and didn't kick Vic and I's collective asses when we buried a week dead coyote under his bed last fall.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on August 31, 2006, 06:52 PM:
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Why did you drag ACC and myself into this??
ACC chided us for not existing on Google. That is why I included him. Coyotehunter2000 wrote a post less than flattering regarding all of us at this site who sit around and tell each other how great they are. It would be entertaining and informative for our members to learn about each other by sharing their acheivements. I didn't mention you.
quote:
Where is your list of accomplishments?
I would love to read them, maybe I will read something in them that would explain your bloated head. I seriously doubt it, but what the hell just post them for shits & giggles.
Does this mean I'm no longer invited to hunt with you in PA?
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on August 31, 2006, 07:01 PM:
Tim B.: Out standing resume on Rich.
Rich you have done well and i take my hat off to you sir.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on August 31, 2006, 07:20 PM:
Tim, a man rich in friends is rich indeed. I haven't forgotten sleeping on a dead coyote, so you owe me, now post your list, please.
Rich Cronk, that was very impressive. Thanks.
Cal I wish you would post your list also. It is something to marvel at.
TA thank you for the kind words, Sir. Now post your list.
Posted by PAyotehunter (Member # 764) on August 31, 2006, 07:25 PM:
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Does this mean I'm no longer invited to hunt with you in PA?
I am a very openminded person. Yes, you are still welcome to hunt with me. All it will cost you is your flight and a meal or two.
In the last two threads it seemed like it was ACC & PAyotehunter vs. the "huntmasters". So yeah, I felt "the ACCs and the 'yotehunter2000s" was directed towards me.
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Anyone who would ever slight the man and what he's done for the world of predator callers, has obviously never met the man, and doesn't have a clue of who they are talking about.
You are right, I never met him just as he and many others on here never met me.
I leave for vac. in the morning and will not be back untill Tuesday(9/5). I just wanted to let you all know so you did not think I ran off. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on August 31, 2006, 07:44 PM:
<------ Half-assed coyote caller and wannabe outdoor writer. Just happy to be learning from those who really know how it's done.
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on August 31, 2006, 07:47 PM:
Well, there was this one time......
at band camp.........
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on August 31, 2006, 07:51 PM:
My resume? I graduated highschool and got my deploma, i don't know why i was'nt in school half the time. Went into the service and recieved a expert-marksman ribbon, spent one tour in Texas and three in North Dakota. After the military i went to work with my father building concrete highways while i was with the company they recieved two national paveing awards and a bunch of state awards. While i was in construction i got to work in many states like Wyoming, Neb. North and South Dakota, and Iowa. While i was in wyoming i was able to hunt and kill my first mule deer which was a fork horn. I would of shot a record book muledeer but i did'nt see any. I also called in my first wyoming coyote while i was there also. I have a wall full of white-tail deer racks, only one of them makes the book. The deer i shot where some of the nicest taken from my area. I also hunted antelope in South Dakota for a few years most of the bucks taken averaged around 10 1/2". They where the biggest in the herd at the time of hunt. I maybe could of taken a record book antelope if there would of been one to shoot. I spend my winters hunting for red fox and coyotes ( 5-month's)I have'nt shot thousands of fox or coyotes, i just shoot what there is. If we had more of them then i would have shot more. I spend 2-weeks a year in S.D., that is where i met Dean Badger. Dean was a gov. trapper and expert denner for the state. Dean taught me the way of the coyote and and the rest i picked up from actual exsperiance and alot of reading. I have a binder full of articles from anybody that would write on the coyote or fox, most of them date back to the 70's. I have learned alot about the coyote from my own experiences and i'm still learning. I know how to work the dumb one's and at the moumement i'm learning a little bit each year on how to get the educated ones. I started out with a Burham Bro.s call and then switched to electric and now i'm in the process of going back to the hand calls and howlers. I had good luck the last two years and i hope i continue to improve. I'm not great but i'll settle for 2nd or 3rd.
I would also like to add that i am a member of the I.B.S. Ass. I've been shooting 17 cal.s since the late 70's and use them on fox and coyotes. I also spend many days in the fall hunting and calling ducks, and hunting pheasants with my dogs. anything to keep me busy and put food on the table till the snows hit. I also do a little bit of trapping for beaver,raccoons, and red fox. I'm also a member of the Varmint hunters ass. since the beginning.
[ September 02, 2006, 11:26 AM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on August 31, 2006, 07:53 PM:
I'm a trapper, have been since I was a little kid. Used to do a lot of night hunting of fox, then coyotes moved into Indiana and I started hunting them.
I ran my own Nuisance animal control business for about 10 years before moving to AZ. I got involved with the Indiana State Trappers Association and with the help of some great trappers, we turned the organization from collapse, into one of the fastest growing Sportsman's groups in the state. I was also one of the founding members of the Indiana Animal Damage Control Association, and sat on the Sportsmen's Roundtable to represent trappers in the State.
Part of my work with the ISTA led me into the political arena, and I loved lobbying in the Statehouse. My State Representative was weak in her support of outdoorsmen, so I went to my local Republican Committee and ask for their help to run against her. They told me that if I could win a county Office, they would support me in the next election. They gave me $500 for signs, and I raised another $320 to run against a "Shoe in" Democrat. He spent over $80,000 to lose to me. Then the local Republicans found out that I work a Union Job. I was told that I would have to quit the job that fed my family, or they would never support me again.
I had gained too much notoriety as a local trapper, the phone was ringing nonstop. Folks kept asking "Is this the Crittergetter's house" ( For those who remember, I used to post under that name for years, it was a nickname I was given by many, not one I picked for myself ) I now live in the only house on Crittergetter lane in McNeal.
Will Craig, Cindy Seff and John-Henry Piotrowski had been bugging me for years to move to AZ. So I found a job paying $10 more an hour than I was making, in an area thick with coyotes and a lower cost of living, and on the Saturday before Labor day of 2000, I moved my family to Arizona.
So far, my only two regrets are the lack of Beaver to trap in Arizona, and not moving here sooner.
Posted by stevecriner (Member # 892) on August 31, 2006, 08:23 PM:
Im 27yrs old and a owner of as construction company. I’ve been calling coyotes for about 10 yrs and am not even close to being as knowledgeable as i want to be. Ill just keep absorbing everything i can. And keep learning all I can.
I’ve been married for a year to a wonderful woman named Kerri which I’ve been with for 5 yrs and now we are expecting our first child.
I grew up in a small town raisin hell with the best of em. Spending most of my time on the twenty acres my grandparents had, I acquired my livelihood. After realizing that hunting was my livelihood I spent the rest of my childhood chasing squirrels, rabbit, deer, and turkey. Reaching the old age of thirteen I started bow hunting whitetails. After 5 years bow hunting hard I found coyote hunting at the age of 17 and continue to hunt all these animals today.
While hunting all these critters I also started riding bulls at the age of 14 Spending most of my weekends going to rodeos and getting bucked off. After realizing I wasn’t a good bullrider I started fighting bulls which came to me like a sixth sense. I continued to fight bulls till the age of 21. I made it to the ACRA finals twice as alternate, and won several buckels along the way but really nothing to show for it. I did aquire my first wife during this time which I got rid of. After rodeo i tried several sports like roping,racing,paintball, and about everything else competitive. But now i just hunt and rope a little, and play on a tournament paintball pump team.
After I got out of school I tried to be a trucker like my dad but didn’t like it as well so I started working construction. I started my own company in 2002 and still roof houses today, and recently started building houses.
I really think this is a good thread and I hope I did ok. Hard to write about myself, lol.
So im great cause i get to hang with you guys and tell stories and raise hell. IM GREAT,,,i think? Plus im going to the campout.
[ September 03, 2006, 07:07 PM: Message edited by: stevecriner ]
Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on August 31, 2006, 08:36 PM:
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I would of shot a record book muledeer but i did'nt see any.
That is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time. LMAO Aint it the truth though. LOL
This is a great idea Rich, I really enjoy hearing a more personal side to screen names. PM has a thread that pops up every once in a while called “Tell us a little about your self” or something to that effect.
I am still a little shy so I will read a few more before I jump on.
Good hunting.
Q,
[ August 31, 2006, 08:37 PM: Message edited by: Q-Wagoner ]
Posted by ACC (Member # 903) on August 31, 2006, 08:41 PM:
Glad to see I am still in Rich Higgins thoughts.
ACC
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on August 31, 2006, 08:48 PM:
Rich C. Please finish yours. Rich H please start on your's. If both of you type real fast just maybe you will have them finished by the time PAyotehunter gets back on 9/5.
Cal I will chip in a $100.00 so you can start to hire the three secretaries it will take to finish yours by that date.( I happen to know there was more than one time at band camp).
I don't think DAA can list the number of rifles he has built by that time. Much less what he has accomplished with them.
Vic. I know some of you're deeds are chiseled in stone. So drag them on top of the scanner.
Tom. I happen to know you won the first thee match lock events.
Now we all know how long I could keep at this. So the rest of you drag out you're merit badges.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 31, 2006, 09:25 PM:
Im just plain assed lucky to be accepted among this bunch of guys. Pick the first 6 or 7 guys that come to mind on this board;Rich Higgins,Leonard Bosinski,Rich Cronk,Cal Taylor,Quinton Waggoner,Dave Affleck.....christ man, those are some tough acts to follow!
Probably the finest,most knowledgable bunch of guys assembled on the 'net concerning coyote behavior and hunting. After that, we have several resident gun gurus, DAA and Jack Roberts to name a couple,so much talent,experience and knowledge here,it honestly makes your head spin. We have resident trapping gurus to boot, Tim Behle,and Lance H, come to mind, so there's expertise to cover every base here.
Im an above average rifle and pistol shot,which luckily off sets my average ability as a hunter and caller,and even less than average knowledge, concerning predator behavior.
Im just lucky enough to be able to spend many more days afield then some guys who have to nail down a five day a week job. In the winter I get out on average, 3-4 days a week, so it's a numbers game, more chances to call something, usually results in more animals called to the rifle. Im lucky to have good health, good country to hunt,and the opportunity to rub elbows with some of the best in the field, right here in Leonards place!
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 31, 2006, 09:50 PM:
I lurk a lot and post a little,Ive learned alot from this and other boards. Just a new guy at this predator calling thing and I cant get enough of it.first time I called , coyotes came and Ive not wanted to do much else since. it has ruined deer seaason for me.finding the boards Ive asked questions and you all have been good enough to answer and share some of what you know.Think Ill just hang out with all the pompous ass know it alls. With a little effort I'm about average.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on September 01, 2006, 06:28 AM:
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"Rich C. Please finish yours."
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Varmit,
I have to take my mother to the doctor here in a few minutes. In the meantime, try going over to Google and type in Rich Cronk. That should keep you busy for awhile.
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 01, 2006, 08:56 AM:
I feel alot like Vic does,just damn lucky to be able to listen to and sometimes pick the brains of all the experience on Huntmasters.I really don't think there's as much coyote experience anywhere else on the net.Period All the guys Vic mentioned plus add guys like Danny B.(onecoyote)and Scott Huber(Wiley E) I really think we have the cream of the crop over here.FWIW Good Hunting Chad
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on September 01, 2006, 09:43 AM:
UTcaller,
I agree with you. The very best way to increase your knowledge about calling however, is to trick those guys into taking you calling with them. I haven't hunted with Cal Taylor or Danny B. yet, but Scott Huber was kind enough to take me out and show me what good decoy dogs can do. I also was lucky enough to take a four day coyote hunt with Murry Burnham.
Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on September 01, 2006, 01:13 PM:
My name is Quinton Wagoner known as Q, on the boards but am registered as flatlander on a couple as well. “Q” came about as a quick sign off that stuck. Not sure if I am use to it yet but “hey” I have been called worse. LOL
Athletically I am a black belt in Tae-kwon-do and a 4-year letter winner in football and track. My senior year I went to state in shot put, discus, and high jump and was an alternate in the 400-meter relay. I set an overall state record in class D and held the State meet record in Discus with a throw of 181 feet one inch. I took a full ride scholarship to NJC in Sterling Co as a decathlete but a back injury at practice put an abrupt halt to that. At NJC I also received an athletic academic award. I was set to transfer to a private college in Eastern Nebraska my sophomore year but realized that my dreams and aspirations lay elsewhere. To the disappointment of my parents I backed out at the last minute.
After collage I fallowed in the family business of concrete construction and with out regret have done that ever sense. That career choice works out perfectly with my lifestyle as it frees up my winters to pursue my passion in life. Coyotes.
I hunt coyotes for only 3 and a half to 4 months of the year and have maintained an average of around 125-130 per season for the last 13 years. My best season to date is 212 and my worst since graduation was 100 or so. My best day on coyotes is 12 and my best night on jackal is 12 also.
I have also been fortunate enough to have hunted Alaska and have made 3 trips to Africa. In Africa I have called in and shot Black back jackal, Side Stripe Jackal, Caracal, Cape Fox, Genet and African Wild Cat. I have called in but not taken Bat-eared fox, aardwolf, spotted hyena and the very rare Black-footed Cat. In all thirty six species have been collected in Africa so far and hopefully there will be many more to come.
Currently I am a columnist for the Fur Taker Magazine. This month I will have held the position for a year. “Calln’ with Q” is what it is called. Go figure. Anyway right now I am neck deep in concrete work and slowly counting down the days till fur season arrives.
Good hunting.
Q,
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 01, 2006, 03:11 PM:
While we're all waiting for Higgins to edit and copyright his resume, I'll throw in my .02 worth. Gimme a minute to slobber up my horn before I start tooting.
Okay,...
My name is Lance Homman. I'm a third generation coyote hunter having learned to chase them from both my granddad and dad. My first experience with a coyote was at the ripe old age of three while tied to the front seat of my dad's pickup truck, which means I've been chasing coyotes for 39 years.
In my early years, we coursed them with greyhounds and trailhounds and I spent many a lazy afternoon barebacking around my grandpa's backyard atop his coyote dogs. If I'd only known what kind of throat hungry killers they were, I'd have been scare to be around them. LOL
I've never had any training in martial arts, but I once had my ass kicked and my nose broke by a guy wearing a belt that did. On the plus side, he caught me wrong as I dodged his jab and ended up breaking his hand on my face, if that counts for anything. On yet another sidetrack, and coincidentally enough, I've only broke bones twice in my life, that I know of, and they were in my left and right hands, both from wrecking my dirt bike while chasing (you guessed it) coyotes.
I started trapping at 15, and learned how to call coyotes about the same time in a seminar conducted by F. Robert Henderson and that Boddicker guy.
Later, I got involved with the Kansas Fur Harvester's Association, became an officer, helped re-write a bunch of Kansas laws pertaining to trapping and calling and assisted in restructuring and re-organizing their organization into its present day form.
I graduated from Kansas State University in 1987 with my degree in wildlife biology where I spent four years studying the developmental behavior of avian predators, specifically great horned owls, golden eagles and Mississippi kites, none of which translated into a decent career later in life.
I started writing for publication in 1992 after convincing myself I knew so damned much about hunting and trapping that I was obligated to share it all with the world. My first article appeared in T&PC later that year and was a piece on making braintanned buckskin. Since then, my work has appeared in T&PC, The Fur Taker, American Trapper, Trapper's World, Buckmaster's Whitetail magazine, Taxidermy Today, Trapper Yearbook, and Ocean, Field and River, an Aussie periodical similar to our Field & Stream. Presently, I am a Field Editor for Trapper & Predator Caller magazine, and am part of the team of writers that make up T&PC's "Answer Men", and contribute regularly to the new "Predator Hunting" magazine, approaching its third year in print.
I am a taxidermist and a custom callmaker being the CEO and sole share owner of Predatr Custom Calls in addition to my regular job.
Of all these things, I am most proud to boast of my accomplishment as a husband and father, having married the most beautiful woman in the world and sired the two best kids possible - one of each. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Seriously, though, I've managed to gain a lot of ground in my pursuit of coyotes, and can honestly say that the biggest, shiniest trophy I boast about to my friends and family is the friendships and camaraderie I have found within this community and around the country and the people I have been privileged to hunt with and alongside. I may not be the best there is, but I know who is, several guys in fact, and I'm proud to count them amongst my friends.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on September 01, 2006, 03:15 PM:
What Vic and Chad said!
Not a whole lot to tell about me. I'm lucky enough to be married and have two awesome kids. And believe me, I MEAN it when I say LUCKY.
Been hunting coyotes since I was a little kid. Sat on my first coyote stand with my Dad when I was about 8 years old. I didn't get to actually carry a rifle and shoot on stand until after I saved up and bought myself a rifle a few years later though. My main job at first was just carrying my Dad's big ass reel-to-reel tape deck . Those trips out to the Utah West Desert and Nevada with my Dad back in the day sure cast the die on me though, I'll tell ya.
I'm uneducated. Having never made it past the 9th grade.
I make hunting videos, two out now, two more coming soon.
Got lucky again and joined the Foxpro field staff a few years ago. I've really enjoyed my association with Foxpro. Good people and good products.
That's about it.
- DAA
Posted by Yellerdog (Member # 356) on September 01, 2006, 04:40 PM:
Well I've talked to Rich Higgins on the phone a few times. I figure that right there qualifies me as a "Pampass Know-It-All".
Beyond that I guess I've never accomplished much. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by CBGC (Member # 643) on September 01, 2006, 05:57 PM:
Titles, magazine covers, TV shows and what ever else looks good for boosting egos??? I replaced Ringo Star in the North American debut of The Point (via Harry Nielson), made Time Magazine with that one, worked with Tori Amos, flee from the chili peppers, toured with Doc Holiday, toured with 3 dog Night and so on and so on. Dose this make me a great musician???? I don’t think it does, just makes me seasoned. Google my name U will not see shit about drumming, but if U put predator behind it U will see I spoke at the largest outdoor show in the world last year about callN coyotes. Does this make me a Higgins or a Taylor, not even close! Moral of the story, every little town has there hero!
[ September 01, 2006, 06:09 PM: Message edited by: CBGC ]
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 01, 2006, 06:24 PM:
CBGC, accomplishments do boost egos and well they should. Some help to mold and even define your character and that is why we are interested in all of your experiences. Speaking at the largest outdoor show suggests a certain level of expertise and we would really like to hear about that and your call business and your calling acheivements in Pa.
Lee, gimme a break. You are loaded with stories. We've seen your pics and heard your calls. Time to come clean, Yellerdog.
We are all fellow members and this is our board, all of us. I would like to know all about the person behind the name. Accomplishments big and small are valuable and interesting to all.
Don't be shy, please.
edited for spelin.
[ September 01, 2006, 06:25 PM: Message edited by: Rich Higgins ]
Posted by CBGC (Member # 643) on September 01, 2006, 06:58 PM:
RH,
Accomplishments R cool but are overrated in my mind. Here is a link to the show I spoke at http://www.easternsportshow.com/App/homepage.cfm?appname=100280&moduleid=3451 Not to sure why they call me YB, don’t even carry a gun anymore, well maybe during big $ hunts? I am known as ½ decent caller in the east ask Sherri B (crow woman), she will speak for me. Going to participate in a study like U did at the end of September. The coyotes are wired and we will see how they react to my callN. Will be in 4 countries next year callN predators! Life is good , come out this way and enjoy it!
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 01, 2006, 09:20 PM:
I didn't know you are Dave Dunbar, and Sheri has spoken of you. This is one reason this thread is good. Which four countries are you going to call in this year? Camera only?
Save a tree eat a beaver
[ September 02, 2006, 08:12 AM: Message edited by: Rich Higgins ]
Posted by Jack Roberts (Member # 13) on September 01, 2006, 10:28 PM:
My greatest accomplishment has been staying alive. Looking at the odds, I should have been dead 40 years ago.
Played with dynamite when I was 10. That really was lots of fun. Setting off explosives really is a power trip for a 10 year old.
That teenage drinking, driving, and girls thing.
Playing soldier in a war zone for 15 months, airplanes I was in got shot up but not me.
Racing motocross, broke probably 50 bones, thankfully mostly just ribs although an occasional collar bone, wrist or foot. As long as you are winning, motocross is worth the pain, until it takes too long to heal.
Built a few experimental aircraft of my own and a few for others. Did all my own first test flights and many for others.
Flew an airshow aerobatic routine for years.
Had 5 engine failures and forced landings and survived them all with only bending one airplane.
On top of that history my wife still loves me but has drawn the line at any more single seat aircraft.
Jack
Posted by Joe Manes (Member # 686) on September 01, 2006, 10:50 PM:
Well Im not going to go into a lot about myself, as I do feel my greastest accomplishment has yet to be revealed to me.
I would like to talk about my friend, Lochi.
He posts under "Lochi from Africa" on most of the hunting boards that people like us frequent.
I had the pleasure of hunting with him for a week.
We had a great deal of fun chasing coyotes all over Arizona.
Lochi is a very accomplished hunter, he hails from J-burg. It is a very different place, this part of the world. Over there a 338 Win Mag is considered a little rifle. Here in America, most average shooters will never fire anything approximating that round's power. He has told me stories of his hunts, and sent me may fine pictures of animals I cant even spell or pronounce. From little birds to large game, he is probably one of the most versatile hunters I have met.
One day, God Willing, he and I can hunt again together.
Posted by Okanagan (Member # 870) on September 01, 2006, 11:38 PM:
Some really interesting bios. Thanks.
I've been calling wild animals since about 1965. Have called more than 30 kinds of N. American critters not counting waterfowl. You begin to see patterns. Grey fox and moose are the dumbest and easiest to call IMO. Lynx and cougar are fairly easy to call but hard for most of us to see when they respond. Whitetails and coyotes tend toward decisive and quick. Bears are kind of erratic, especially blacks, which usually just means we haven’t figured out how to consistently call such a critter yet.
There are some odd ones in the mix, like hummingbirds, rattlesnakes, blue grouse, brook trout (technically tolled visually to shore rather than called) and a Ventura County Sheriff patrol car. If we count totally different sounds to selectively call males or females, such as a mule deer buck with one sound and a mule deer doe with another, the count goes up. It’s been a life long hobby, never super serious though I went at it a bit when fur was really high.
Have traveled quite a bit. The Gold Coast of Africa has the best pineapples. Thailand has great mangoes. Istanbul has fabulous bakeries and Budapest has some great ones. OK, I like to eat. Afghanistan is the dusty country with bullet holes in everything, and Liberia is the wet jungle country with bullet holes in everything.
Have written a fair amount that’s made publication. Probably shouldn’t mention bad stuff as I’m also lazy, a poor finisher on too many projects and mechanically inept. Caught a 28 lb. Chinook salmon two evenings ago, and am blessed with a super wife, great kids and now grandkids.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on September 02, 2006, 06:00 AM:
Ain't that Jack Roberts feller great? I once told Jack about my idea of building a helicopter out of a galvanized wash tub with motorcycle engine for the go power. I asked him to do the test flight but he turned me down. He said something about his not doing helicopters.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 02, 2006, 08:08 AM:
Jack, what kind of plane that you were in was shot up. Were you piloting?
Okanagon, what have you had published? Books and articles. What subjects?
Joe, let's have your bio. I'm asking Lochi to provide his.
Posted by doggin coyotes (Member # 914) on September 02, 2006, 08:29 AM:
Just a little about me. I don't claim to be an expert or know-it-all about much of anything. My real name is Larry, 54 yers old and I have been a resident in the great state of Colorado all my life. Married to a wonderful woman. Raised 3 kids who are now all growed up and living in Houston TX. of all places. lol. I've made a living as a welder/fabricator/machinist with CDOT for 29 years.
My #1 pleasure in life is calling coyotes, although I'll hunt anything in season and have been know to catch a few fish now and then. I only call/hunt in the winter (Oct thru mid Jan) months. Due to my job, I only get weekends and whatever vacation/holidays to partake in this pleasure. Retirement is about a year away and I can't wait!
I still look back to the day I called my very first coyote and laugh to myself. I think I was 12 or 13 years old. I had an old Circe wooden mouth call someone had given me. It had been broke and had black electrical tape holding it together. The guy that gave it to me said it would call coyotes and kinda showed me how to blow it and what I should kinda sound like. So I talk my Grandpa into driving me out and dropping me off on an old gravel road. "Come back and get me in a couple hours Gramps" I tell him. So off I go walking out through the chico brush, carring a old Winchester 22 pump. I had NO clue what the hell I was doing. NONE! So some distance from the road I spot this old freezer or refrigerator (don't really remember what it was) that somebody had dumped many years ago. I remember it was a 3 sided thing with a few bullet holes scattered through out it. Me, being the bright kid I am, decides to get in this thing, blow on this old taped up mouth call and watch through the bullet holes. Well I start blowing the call somewhat like the guy told me to do. As far as I remember I blew on that thing until I got tired and then looked out of one of the bullet holes. OH SHIT! All I see is what looks like an eyeball looking back in through the bullet hole! It was so close I had no idea what it was. All I could see was an eyeball. Remember I'm only 12 or 13 and all by myself. It scared the shit outta me. Well it finally smelled me or something and started walking away. I could tell then it was a coyote. But now what. I can't shoot because I'm behind this thing. I finally decide to quickly stand up, rifle ready and hope to shoot this coyote as he's walking away. As I jumped up I ran my left arm against one of the jagged bullet holes in this sheet metal and cut it wide open. Never saw the coyote again after I jumped up. Now I'm bleeding like a stuck pig and Gramps ain't going to be back for awhile yet. I walk back to the road and start heading in the direction I know Gramps will be comming from. Long story shortened up, Grandpa did finally show up and he was damned sure I had shot myself at first. A trip to the docs office for numerous stitches and a tetnus shot and I was ready for my next adventure calling coyotes. LOL. True story I swear.
More about me later if anyone is interested. The wife has a few plans for me right now. Later fellas.
dc
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 02, 2006, 09:00 AM:
Larry, good story. Junk in old dumps make good blinds. I believe that Jay Nistetter took a photo of me sitting in an old recliner in the desert with a coyote in front of me. Post your bio when you can.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on September 02, 2006, 10:09 AM:
Rich Higgins,
I have been adding to my bio by editing the original post.
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 02, 2006, 10:57 AM:
I originally thought the call for bio’s was intended to reflect the professional predator calling/hunting aspects of an individual’s career. In this context, I could only anticipate a very short list of contributors. In my mind, to be considered as having made some sort of “professional” contribution to the sport, one would be expected to have a related achievement to be recognized for.
Using this crude definition as a guideline I immediately disqualified myself. I have never produced, or “starred” in a video. I have never published a book, magazine article, or made other (hunting related) literary contributions. I’m not, or have ever been, a predator hunting club member of any notoriety. I don't practice commercial exploitation, and I have no ambition of being a media whore. I’m not a lecturer, spokesperson, or seminar presenter. I cannot claim any killing contest achievements, nor am I a high volume fur taker of renown. I am not a call maker, sponsor, endorser, or hunting product manufacturer. I’ve never guided entertainment celebrities on hunts, and I can’t be found on Google. In fact, I have never even stayed at a Holiday Inn before.
But I enjoy the company of those that do. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
[ September 02, 2006, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: NASA ]
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 02, 2006, 11:23 AM:
Im with you NASA. I dont feel like I even belong posting on this thread..... Proud to be allowed to hang with those who do.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 02, 2006, 11:26 AM:
Well, Tom, I count you amongst my friends and know a few things about you that are interesting. So why not share them so we all get to know you better.
As far as accomplishments not meaning much, this whole thing began because someone had the gall to ask what the hell any of us ever did that made us special. Sounds to me like quite a lot. The sum totals of what we've done in our lives is, in fact, what makes each of us special and if, in fact, accomplishments mean nothing, then the Constitution was right after all. We were each born, and after that, no one ever got any better at anything than anyone else. There's not a danged thing wrong with being proud of what you've worked hard to accomplish in this world.
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on September 02, 2006, 11:42 AM:
Dave Dunbar is NOT a 1/2 decent caller in the East... He is in fact a phenominal Caller! I would love to hear just five minutes of him, Higgins and Tyler do a coyote chorus on tape!
Come on Dave, tell us all about your calls. Folks they are walking, talking pieces of art in the music category that I have seen yet made back here. And does he EVER know how to make them sing!
Higgins, this guy is definately one for you to interview sometime on tape... he's an amazing guy. But what I like best about him, is he is true.
Speaking of... true is what you get here with all of you! I have been blessed to be in the truest of company. I take my hat off to ALL of you.
Very few people leave deep impressions on me. I'm usually left thinking whether or not I should have passed a kleenex to them to finish wiping the BS that was dripping from around their mouthes.
Ronnie, Leonard, Higgins, Tyler, Tim, Vic, Bryan W. and a few more come to mind that I have met in person or spoken to on the phone... all I can say is Thank You!
Edited cuz I'm tire'd and cant speil
[ September 02, 2006, 11:45 AM: Message edited by: Crow Woman ]
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 02, 2006, 01:32 PM:
quote:
(I) know a few things about you that are interesting.
Interesting, amusing, entertaining, but relevant?
My life has been anything but dull. Maybe even verging on bizarre, by some peoples judgement scale. But all my interests and undertakings have been for my own personal benefit. I chose a profession that I thought would support me and mine comfortably. Then I pursued an education path that would qualify me for that profession. It was a good choice, and has allowed me to indulge in a myriad of other pursuits. These experiences and knowledges have given me much personal satisfaction. And that's where they've remained, for the most part.
Posted by bigben (Member # 864) on September 02, 2006, 03:02 PM:
I am 21 live in south central pa. I am the dist 4 coord. for the PPHA. I am a eagle scout with 43 merit badges. I am still active in the BSA. no I have never killed a coyote. but have called em. just have not been able to lay the hammer down on one. I have listened to dave speak and I have heard him call. he is a very humble caller that just loves to call coyotes. there are others here in pa that know tons about coyotes but everytime they get on the internet to help out other hunters they either get their info copied and put into a mag. or they get harrased by some know it all. anyhow just mainly lurkin and readin. tryin to get as much info as I can while I cannot get out there to hunt. take care everyone.
Posted by CBGC (Member # 643) on September 02, 2006, 05:20 PM:
This is a cool thread and Sherri U are way to kind. My calls are pretty bland, just a cow horn with some delrin or a piece of antler with a JC in it. I do make some of the howlers with bison horn and a antler voice. I am real anal about the reed (like to sand the mylar to my liking) and the air channel in the voice, the combination of the 2 make the call. I don’t make many calls anymore and if I do they are for a donation or given to a friend.
Rich asked what countries: I will be in Mexico, callN cats and coyotes, Zimbabwe callN jackals, hyenas and wild dogs and Canada callN whatever will come in. Most of it will be carrying the camera, but in Zimbabwe I will pullN the trigger???
BB
I would guess U will get your coyote this year and more. U pay attention to detail, U are committed and U are a good caller. Patience and confidence is the key in this part of the country, just stick with it.
Posted by Jack Roberts (Member # 13) on September 02, 2006, 05:45 PM:
Rich Higgins,
I was in a Caribou at the time. No I was not a pilot in the army, I was a radio operator and we would load a bunch of FM radios in a Caribou and set up an airborne radio relay. It was a good job because the only time I had to work was when there were communication problems. Sometimes I only worked one or two days a month.
Jack
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 02, 2006, 06:40 PM:
Jack, is the Caribou the same plane as the twin Otter?
NASA, too bad you won't share your experiences. Anyone who raised a litter of 5 coyote pups for 3 plus years has some adventures and some knowledge to share.
BTW this thread is for all members not just the "pros" we want to know all of the members, of long experience and of short.
You too ACC. All of the tweaking and needling aside, you must have an impressive resume. Share with us.
Posted by ACC (Member # 903) on September 02, 2006, 08:12 PM:
I will play too.
First I grew up with three siblings, all girls. Surviving that was a challenge in itself. I was also born a hard oiler. For those who don't know what that is, I was born were the oil was first discovered and produced in North America.
My parents owned a bakery for 22 years and I grew up working in the bakery all my life. So yes I can bake and cook.
I once fell in love with a girl and to get closer to this girls heart, I took up coyote hunting. Yes that is correct. To get out of working for my parents and to get closer to my now wife, I decided to ask her dad to take me out coyote hunting. Her father was an avid coyote hunter and there were plenty of coyote hunting going around. At that time, the technique was chasing with dogs. We used Whipits.
I chased coyotes and fox around for years until the old guys I hunted with didn't want to go anymore because they enjoyed the coffee shop talk more. It was at this time, I decided to take up calling. "Calling" the guys would say! "Who's ever heard of that."
That started my coyote calling career. I have been at it for a while now. I took some time off chasing coyotes while I went to college to learn about geotechnical engineering and geophysics.
I graduated from college and started to be a productive member of society. I found a job that allowed me to travel to far and away places completing both rotary wing and fixed wing geophysical surverys. I have worked in all provinces of Canada except PEI. I have worked in the US, the high artic by Santa's house, Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, Borneo, Peru, and Ghana.
I have been a member or our Armed Forces as an officer in the reserves. I am a card carrying legion member. I have climbed Canada's highest mountain. I have taught whitewater canoeing. I am in the process of raising two children, and still raising a beagle of 10 years that most would have done away with after 2 years.
I have held supervisor positions in the construction industry. I have supervised the quality control of 144,000 cubic metres of concrete poured in 1 1/2 years at a major oilsands project in Northern Alberta. I managaed a ready mix plant for 2 years.
As for hunting, I am pleased with my calling skills enough and can consistently call coyotes, however sometimes my killing skills need sharpening. When fur season comes about, I hunt pretty much every day. So much, it does put a strain on my work and personal relationships. I try to make three stands on the way home from work every day. I also try to introduce new kids into hunting and shooting and actually did that today as a matter of fact.
That is me in a nutshell. I am just a plain ol coyote hunter. I am not on the top of the list, nor did I start yesterday. I usually keep my mouth shut on these websites but sometimes something burns my ass enough that I have to say something.
There has been some good quotes on this topic so far. I think my favourite is that "every little town has its own hero" Hopefully, I am that.
ACC
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Posted by keekee (Member # 465) on September 02, 2006, 08:32 PM:
Dave,
You have my respect if Sheri speaks that highly of you!
We should swap some eastern stories sometime!
Brent
Posted by Jack Roberts (Member # 13) on September 02, 2006, 08:59 PM:
Rich Higgins,
The Caribou is a much bigger plane than a twin otter and older although still made by DeHaviland. It had twin R2000 engines and a gross weight of 28,500 pounds IIRC. It could haul about 35 troops in full battle gear with supporting supplies easily. A newer version came out around 1970 with twin turboprops called the Buffalo. It is a cargo hauler with a rear ramp for loading things like jeeps. It is an amazing short field airplane for it's size. We routinely went into strips way less than 3000' long.
Jack
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on September 02, 2006, 10:33 PM:
Jack, is the Buffalo anything like a C-17, or am I way off base. My brother used to be a navigator for the Airforce on them.
Posted by LionHo (Member # 233) on September 03, 2006, 12:24 PM:
Name is Ivan J. Eberle. Been calling critters to the camera since the mid 80's. I've written a number of (published) magazine articles, and I'm trying to finish a humor novel I've been writing for ~a dozen years.
Internet-accomplishment-wise, I picked a memorable if not cool screen name awhile back, and relentlessly agitated for the use of cone speakers in e-callers before the Borlands and the Dillons jumped on the bandwagon (That oughta count for sumpin..)
While I don't call in too many coyotes, I do call a few cats to the camera now and again with lipsqueaks, recorded mouse squeaks, and so forth. Oh, and I also do a fairly credible ML-in-heat call, by voice.
LionHo
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 03, 2006, 01:57 PM:
Speaking of airplanes; I got my gear loaded up and ammo reloaded and i'm ready for the camp out. LOL http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/TA17Rem/planes001.jpg[/IMG]] 
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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on September 03, 2006, 02:15 PM:
Well since this is for everybody and not just experts, I will post so that I will never be confused with one.
I'm 42 years old and have been hunting all my life but took up a facination with coyotes and calling coyotes about 25 years ago. I make some calls out of antler and get a thrill out of calling a coyote with a call that I made out of an antler from a deer that I killed with a shell that I loaded out of a gun that I built. Yes I make calls, reload and love to work on AR-15's but it's all just for fun and I am constantly trying to learn more about my obsessions.
I graduated high school and didn't need college to get rich in the oilfield but after the oilbust I stayed at my current occupation as an automotive electrician, I also did some ranch work on the side that opened a few more places to hunt and last year I bought the shop that I've worked at since 1986. The last 2 years have kept me tied up during hunting season but I still manage to kill a good deer and call a few coyotes, hopefully this year will be different.
I'm married with 2 step-daughters that I'm very proud of and I found it very "helpful" to be working on a "machinegun" when they brought home some feller for me to meet. I've taught both my girls how to shoot but they didn't want to hunt so I never pushed it. Basicly I'm just an ordinary guy but I wouldn't change a thing about my life.
Posted by Buffalobob (Member # 825) on September 03, 2006, 04:21 PM:
Well if we are now down to the acknowledged bottom of the barrel, I will put up an introduction. I have been coyote hunting twice, long ago in Utah. First time I just parked the truck and walked about 50 yards and started calling. I was shocked that that no coyotes came. I decided I would do better if I hunted at night so I went down to the auto parts store and bought a swivel search light and four sets of bumper mounted lights and wired them up. That night I drove out into the desert and turned all of the lights on and the cab promptly filled up with smoke and the fuse box melted down and shorted out the engine. I decided at that time that I would not hunt coyotes anymore and I would not mess with the wire in truck motors either.
When I retired this year I thought I would take up coyote hunting as a summer time effort but as it turns out most of the people seemed to feel that coyotes were “game animals” and should be treated as such. That was interesting to me that the coyote hunters were actually trying to self regulate themselves so I thought about that a while and decided that was fine with me even though I am very little threat to any coyote’s well being.
I grew up in backwoods Alabama on a farm, went to the University of Alabama in the days of Bear Bryant. After graduation I was commissioned an officer and a gentleman by act of Congress, went through Special Forces school and then off to RVN, where I ran a recon/sniper platoon. Came back and found that the coal company had strip mined the mountain in front of the farm and that the pasture was ruined with silt and sediment from the runoff. I spent some of the money I had saved in RVN on rehabbing the little stream that ran through the pasture and re-gradeing and re-seeding the place. That experience convinced me to go to graduate school and study environmental engineering and so I spent the rest of my money and the GI bill becoming a professional tree hugger. Some thirty years later I am retired.
I am leaving on Tuesday morning for two months of knocking around Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho hunting elk, deer, black bear and antelope.
Friday as Ernesto blew through here I went out and shot these doves. Went back Saturday and shot some more.
Posted by CBGC (Member # 643) on September 03, 2006, 04:55 PM:
Kee,
That sounds like a plan. If ya ever need a place to stay and hunt out of in PA U give me a call. I am sure we can make something happen and this invitation stands with others on this board also.
Posted by Jack Roberts (Member # 13) on September 03, 2006, 06:02 PM:
Crow Woman,
The only similarity between a Buffalo and a C17 is that they both have hydraulic cargo ramps. The Buffalo is a twin engined turboprop of about 30,000 pounds gross weight and the C17 is a very large 4 fanjet engined plane of probably around 400,000 pounds gross weight.
Jack
Posted by ouachita (Member # 941) on September 03, 2006, 06:26 PM:
This seems to be a good time to jump in here.
My name is Bill Mims, I am 66 yrs. old and I have absolutely nothing to offer this forum. I would like to hang around and ask a question from time to time. This bug bit me kind of late in life but bite it has.
I have no great accomplishments in life except a great wife, 2 great kids, 3 grandkids and 1 great grandkid. My goal in life has been to enjoy it and that I have.
I have been a bird hunter most of my life and love my dogs. Not long ago I discovered guys using dogs as coyote decoy dogs and that is when this thing grabbed me.
The closest I have come to coyote fame is email conversation with Cal, Rich H., Rich C. and Brent. These fellows probably don't remember, but I do. I use to talk with Rich Higgins over on PM until he got his ass ran off. Got some good info. from him and Brent. I sound just like Brent on the power howler by the way.
Hope you will let me sit in and learn a few things.
Thanks
Posted by stevecriner (Member # 892) on September 03, 2006, 07:11 PM:
Alot to learn about folks on this thread. Ill have to read it three times to remember it all.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on September 03, 2006, 07:25 PM:
ouachita,
Welcome! You sound like a good enough feller to me.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 03, 2006, 07:45 PM:
LOL. Hi BIll, welcome to Huntmasters. It's good to have you here.
Posted by RagnCajn (Member # 879) on September 03, 2006, 08:33 PM:
I have really enjoyed reading all this. Thanks Mr. Higgins for starting it.
I hope this thread is up a few years from now. I would like to accomplish something to post here.
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Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on September 03, 2006, 10:34 PM:
Wow Jack... thanks for that info... I was WAY off!
Brent and Dave... I seriously think you two are a great couple of guys to pair up I can't wait to hear the stories and see the pics! But just promise me to save me a few eastern coyotes after you get done, will ya?
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 04, 2006, 05:14 AM:
Bill Mims, I do believe, actually pretty positive, that yesterday morning while I was sitting here eating breakfast, I saw you on TV. My boys were watching hunting shows and I think it was Larry Cszonka (sp)? Anyway, he was bird hunting with a fella that has your name and about the same age.
Was it you?
Edit: Regardless, welcome. I sure do love that lake you use for your screen name. Fished there in Central Pro Am, and on Lake Hamilton. Did fairly well. Also, on Ouachita, I had the BEST day of fishing ever. My partner and I caught 65 stripers between 8 and 38lb, all on topwater. It was unreal. Been wanting to come back ever since.
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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 04, 2006, 06:26 AM:
Not to fan the flames of an already simmering board-er feud, but I found this response to a thread on another board this morning where a new caller was asking for advice on what equipment to purchase to get started.
quote:
I HAVE ONLY GOT 2 COYOTES AND ONE WITH A HAND CALL I MADE AND LAST YEAR AND A THE FOX PRO YESTERDAY. TO ME THERE IS A TIME FOR HAND CALLS AND THERE IS TIME FOR ELE. CALLS. SO WHAT I TELLING YOU IS I LIKE HAND CALLS AND ELE. ALL DIFF. TYPE OF HAND CALLS AND A REMOTE ELE. CALL.
The point being is this: the responder has two coyotes to his credit. Lifetime tally. We can only assume that he's been in the business for a relatively short amount of time to have only killed two coyotes, and therefore, his experience with either genre of calls is limited as well. If he has, in fact, been calling for many, many years, one would think he would conclude by now, with only two coyotes, that this game doesn't work.
I'm not trying to harp on this one guy or call him out as an example of what's wrong with him. Instead, I'm just reaffirming my earlier point that Rich's thread allows people to see the qualifications of those people on this board to answer your inquiries and for you to see and assess the validity of their information. I challenge you guys from other boards to pose the same questions there and check out the credibility of the folks on those boards before anyone starts calling us braggarts and egotists that like to stroke each other.
Second point - any and all information gleened from the web should be taken with a grain of salt after full consideration of the source as well as after comparing that information with your own personal experience and what you know to be true.
Still waiting for Higgins' resume.
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Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on September 04, 2006, 07:57 AM:
Cdog911,
You just hit on a very important point in your last post. It is nearly impossible for a beginner to sort out the good information from the B.S. when reading the information on the various boards. On the internet, a person can be whoever he chooses to portray. If we can help those that are hungry for knowledge by pointing out a few GOOD sources of information, then we have accomplished a goal well worth fighting for.
Posted by ouachita (Member # 941) on September 04, 2006, 12:27 PM:
Thanks for the welcome fellers.
Mr. Cronk, I am well aware of your contributions to the beginner from PM. Thanks
Mr. Higgins has more knowledge of coyotes than anyone I know. I don't know if he knows all that stuff or if he has a coyote library sitting next to his computer. He made me feel better about asking stupid questions. He said your questions aren't stupid, your just ignorant.
Hi Andy, I bet you do like Lake Ouachita and on top water, that had to be alot of fun. This lake has had a down period (for largemouth) the last few years but is coming back strong.
Been on several bird hunting shows. Was he a good looking guy, young for his age and great physical shape? Yeah that was me and old Larry.
No just kidding. Felt good to have a little claim to fame though.
Good talking to you
Bill
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 04, 2006, 05:47 PM:
Well thats too cool Bill.
I havent fished Ouachita for bass in 9 yrs. Used to be down there at least once a year. That striper fishing trip was in 2002. I would love to go back next month. Dont see it happening, but would love to.
You know a feller named Doug Hill? I fished with him one time. He was guiding for a guy named John Hall. George Cochrans boy worked for him too.
Bass fishin used to be good on that lake. I liked going there in June, post spawn. That lake has lots of humps in it. Fish used to gang up on them, gorging on shad, after spawning and really made it good fishing. Lake Hamilton is alot like my home lake, Lake of the Ozarks. Lots of docks to flip. I felt right at home there.
That striper trip wasnt rocket science. Just take binoculars and look for splashes that looked like someone dumping concrete blocks out of an airplane. Go to them sneaking the last little bit on trolling motor only. We were throwing Red Fins in Rainbow Trout color and Zara Spooks. When one got it, it was hang on for dear life til you got him tired down. Big fun. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on September 04, 2006, 07:01 PM:
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The point being is this: the responder has two coyotes to his credit. Lifetime tally. We can only assume that he's been in the business for a relatively short amount of time to have only killed two coyotes, and therefore, his experience with either genre of calls is limited as well. If he has, in fact, been calling for many, many years, one would think he would conclude by now, with only two coyotes, that this game doesn't work.
BUT then we could remember Krusty!! He would be the acception to this rule, NO!!?
My name is Tim Richard. 40 years of age, married/ no children? I guess God has other plans for our money I started coyote hunting on the farm in KS. at a wee age. My dad had grey hounds at one time, and then bought an airplane to use as a spotter to chae coyotes. I got to witness, from the air, how coyotes can be pretty slick and get away from the speed of the grey hounds. Sometime, back then, my best friend took me callin', although we didn't call in any predators. I thought he was full of crapola! Now, he is the makin' calls and videos known as the "Verminator". I love to hunt most everything, love to eat it all too, with a few exceptions to that rule. I moved to CO. back in '86 and at that time, learned to call coyotes, since I couldn't chase them with grey hounds any more. Was self taught, and have been callin' ever since. I do dabble in makin' a few calls from horn, have helped design a few mass produced calls that are currently on the market, and do some video taping of calling action, more so than shooting these days, which is fine by me. My callin' skills continue to change and adapt. seeminly each year I change something. I never used a howler to actually call coyotes in until about 6 or 7 years ago. Always was blowing my howler after a calling set, to try to locate other coyotes, until one time I did this and had three coyote come into the set. Then the light went on, that a howler was more than a "locator" call.
I got a computer just a few years ago, and am amazed at the amount of info. a guy can find, not just on predator hunting, but if a guy does some research, the learning curve is greatly shortened from just 5 or 10 years ago. It's great just having a place to come to read, and pick up more info. Not that there's not a couple other sites that offer new and unknown callin' tactics, but it's hard to beat this joint and guys that have all ready takin' the hard knocks!
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 04, 2006, 07:16 PM:
Tim,
Let us stay on topic and not derail ourselves on Krusty. His is a unique situation and no snes ein causing him any furtrher grief. I owe him one and feel it prudent to make sure that this thread stay on course.
Posted by keekee (Member # 465) on September 04, 2006, 07:20 PM:
Thanks Dave! I may just take you up on that some day, we been looking hard at spending some time up in PA.
Thanks Sheri! If I make it up that way soon you better stop by and see us! And make a few stands!
Brent
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Posted by bearmanric (Member # 223) on September 04, 2006, 07:58 PM:
Hello here we go i'm Bearmanric. Rick Robbins. from Washington state. yes the same as Krusty i took Krusty cougar calling want's. he did a great job sitting still and he doe's call good. we have had our fight's. i'll leave it at that.i got my first coyote in 83 in Vermont then called another before i came back to washingington in 85. i started bow hunting did very well on Elk and bear.started helping Leo parrot guiding bear's over bait and hound's.we tried making a video with esp Hoyt archry and Walter payton but he passed away it was either 85 or 86 not sure. i was poplar at the bow shop for calling in coyote's and a couple bobcat's hurt my neck in 90 that ended my archry year's. 93 to 97 guided bear hunter's over bait.then the anti's outlawed it. got 42 bear's in those four year's with hunter's. that is were i got the name bearmanric. from my friend's. called in my first bear 99 not sure. called in several other's no shot's three this year.i only kill like 5 to 10 coyote's a year.the last five year's devote all my time on cougar's. i use a Foxpro fx3 and 416 have a loudmouth use to be a field rep for wayne. been making call's for three year's.my wife tell's me i should use hand call's more like i use to got more game.last year and this year been trying to get a cougar with the fx3 reason for that wont go into it. quit my job two month's ago.told them if i cant hunt this year i'll retire.so i did i now make call's full time.building a shop the end of this year. plan on traveling alot this year calling.this is a hard state to call.not like the open country state's.leaving in two day's for a week for cougar and bear in eastern washing.up around Republic and Colville. my cougar dream spot.will be using my hand call's alot on this trip.this is who i i'm. dont try to impress people.i dont have big number's calling but the last 10 to 12 year's worked my butt off time to play. Rick
Posted by wdhunt40 (Member # 184) on September 04, 2006, 08:43 PM:
I think I can say that you guys have helped me immensely with my calling. Here is the proof 29 coyotes $36.38 average at our Athol Idaho fur sale. 
Wayne Meyer been lurking here a long time, 45 years old, born in Montana moved to Canada 1972 started trapping muskrat in the large sloughs of Saskatchewan. Moved to Washington in 1980 trapped and called a little until I-713 which started me calling seriously for a hobby. Going to use a couple of custom calls of bearmanric this year. Picked up a used fox pro this summer and will put it to work also this fur season. I have worked as machinist the last 25 years.
Thanks you guys for all the help this year was my best.
Wayne
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Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on September 05, 2006, 03:40 AM:
Brent, it would be a pleasure to do a few stands with you and Dave. If you ever want to make it a little further into PA, you are all welcome here at the farm as well! Plenty of room.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 05, 2006, 06:26 AM:
Well, since the people who know what they're doing have had a chance to post, I'll toss in my .02¢.
I'm a recreational caller who bought my first call at a Wally Taber Sports Show a long time ago in a place far far away.
Archery is one of my passions and I've taken a couple of hundred big game animals with arrows. Five of them are listed in the Calif. Bowmen Hunters record book.
After taking 4 coyotes with the bow I got serious about predators and upgraded my equiptment to rifle, shotgun & traps. This improved my success quite a bit but with my background in archery, I still tend to think that 100 yards is a pretty long shot.
I consider the entire Western United States to be my own personel playground and wander around it whenever I can. I've hunted in 9 of the 11 western states.
I have a strange, twisted sense of humor and consider myself a non-consumptive user of wildlife because I don't eat the coyotes I skin. Would like to do some outdoor writing but don't have the talent for it.
Oh, and I love my truck.
Posted by bowjunkie (Member # 887) on September 05, 2006, 09:31 AM:
Well I thought this is a good place ta say hiya ,There ain't anything "great" about me.. Names Ed 46 yrs old spend most of my free time hunting or fly fishing live in western Co would probly have a list of coyote stories if'n I got to hunt em more ..I'm one of the last of a dieing breed less than 3% of our nation does what I do fer a living nowdays, so don't pick on me with yer mouth full lol...been lurkin here for a bit tryin to learn more bout coyotes hehe,cant' wait for it ta cool off
PS Rich I still don't have your video if ya wanna send it to me I'll cut ya a check
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 05, 2006, 12:27 PM:
Ed, they are available from allpredatorcalls.com and from Brent's website at kee'scustomcalls. I don't bother my pretty little head with that video stuff.
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on September 05, 2006, 01:25 PM:
Just a recreational caller who has had some fairly decent luck on farmland coyotes.
Dennis
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 05, 2006, 02:33 PM:
Since I don’t have any great accomplishments in the realm of predator hunting to boast of, I thought I’d at least tell how I got acquainted with hunting in the first place.
One of my uncles gave me a BB gun when I was 5. That same day I stalked and killed my first critter (a pigeon), and promptly got punished by my Grandmother. I have been swimming upstream ever since.
We moved out of the Grandparents house that same year into a residential tract home. It was a semi-rural part of southern L.A. county called Torrance. There were coyotes, fox, pheasant, rattlesnake, and lots of ponds and sloughs. A good environment for a kid to grow up in.
My Dad was a sailor, and there was a war going on. We only saw him a couple times a year, if that. To help support the family, I raised chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese, pigeons and rabbits. We ate some and sold some. I sold fresh rabbit to the butcher at the D & D Market for $2 a piece. The rabbit pelts were 2 bucks a piece dried and stretched, at the feed/hay store. Neighbors bought their Thanksgiving turkey’s and Christmas goose from me. I sold eggs up and down the block. My pullets made the best fried chicken in town and there was always someone coming to the house to buy fresh chicken. The Ding How Chinese Restaurant was my pigeon customer. I had two younger sisters who never, ever, helped with the enterprise. My Mom only cooked. The entire burden of the animals was 100% my responsibility. I learned by trial and error, and from any books I could get from the feed store.
My first firearm, was a Remington .22 semi-auto. I was 10 and needed it to keep down the predators that were raiding my “farm” at night. With a G.I. flashlight taped to the barrel, I began my exploits as a “night hunter”. Raccoons, ‘possums, fox, skunks, and “hundreds” of feral cats were dispatched with that .22. Even a 2-legged chicken thief got a taste of it one night!
By the time I was 13, civilization had overtaken the town of Torrance. It was no longer “rural” and zoning laws now outlawed farm animals. Even the dairies were being closed down and forced to move out East to the wilderness of Orange County. Supermarkets were popping up everywhere so there wasn’t a need for my animal husbandry talents in the neighborhood, any longer.
When I was forced to get rid of my animals, I became an outlaw, an “urban hunter”. Hunting with the .22 (around town) now became a very risky undertaking. I acquired a recurve bow. I learned to make my own arrows. There were still lots of jacks and cottontails to be had, IF you knew where and when to go for them. Feral pigeons were plentiful along the RR tracks. Ducks and geese still dropped in to the remaining sloughs that hadn’t been drained, filled, and paved over. I bought my first full set of camo at the war surplus store in town for about $6. It was used to hide me from the prying eyes of people, not the animals I hunted.
Houses, schools, shopping malls, industrial centers, and fast food restaurants now covered the land where I used to hunt. To get to areas to hunt, I needed transportation. At 16, I bought my first car. Now I was mobile. Limited, but never the less, mobile. I killed my first coyote in the wilds of an area called Palos Verdes Peninsula. Today, the landscape of my old hunting grounds are lavished with $50 million homes. Killing the coyote was a fluke, but the thrill of it ignited the fire of a passion in me for predator hunting that has never gone out. I read everything on the subject I could get my hands on (and back in the 50’s that was very limited). Then one day in the barber shop, I came across some articles about “predator calling” by some young guys named Murray Burnham and Jim Dougherty. My life hasn’t been traditional, or “normal,” ever since.
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Posted by CBGC (Member # 643) on September 05, 2006, 04:19 PM:
Sheri,
That would be a blast and I appreciate the offer, plan it out and I will follow.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 05, 2006, 07:06 PM:
NASA,
I knew there was an interesting story in there. Thanks for telling it.
My first time actually seeing calling done right was one Saturday afternoon on American Sportsman (one of only three channels we got back then, and snowy as hell). Grits Gresham and Murray Burnham, if I recall, were calling in the desert and they called a coyote that busted them. Murray attributed the failure to Grits' white cowboy hat. Does anyone else recall seeing that episode?
Posted by ouachita (Member # 941) on September 05, 2006, 08:14 PM:
NASA, you sure brought back some old memories with the BB gun and the .22. Great post.
Cdog911, you just aged yourself and me as well. I remember the American Sportsman, but I don't remember that particular one. To many years ago. I did order some calls from the Burnham Brothers though. They were the only one I had heard of back then. I never used them but I still have them. That was before the coyote had migrated to my part of the country. We had a few fox.
Bill
Posted by keekee (Member # 465) on September 05, 2006, 08:54 PM:
Sheri, Dave,
Sounds good to me as well! If we can get the schedules lined up!
Brent
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on September 06, 2006, 05:43 AM:
Brent and Dave, start throwing me some monthes. sheribaity@yahoo.com I've got some seminars and I know you all have some hunts lined up. We'll start there. I'm looking forward to this!
Posted by PAyotehunter (Member # 764) on September 06, 2006, 06:27 AM:
Sheri,
Are you gonna be at cabelas again this year?? I will not be your chaperon, I'm no longer with them.
I've heard that Tom Bechdel is going to be there. I might go for that, I could use a good laugh.
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on September 06, 2006, 08:00 AM:
No chaperone??!!?? You KNOW how much trouble I can get into! It's my middle name, afterall!
Phil is working on a Women In The Outdoors for November, tentativly... he wants me there for that. Nothing scheduled in stone as of yet. If you want to wear a skirt or maybe just some pink camo would work, I just might be able to get you into a class...
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 06, 2006, 08:43 AM:
That was just a snapshot so I could feel like I was contributing something entertaining to this thread. It ends just after my 17th b-day. There are still a lot of stories
(just between those lines) that haven't been told.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on September 06, 2006, 07:47 PM:
I enjoyed your contribution very much NASA. Thanks for sharing it.
- DAA
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on September 06, 2006, 10:11 PM:
I am Ronnie Robison 61 years old. I thank Rich for the flowered up introduction. Most of that was in the line of duty for Lohman. I am like Tom, the great times were with a BB gun and a 22.
Growing up in a hunting family with a rich Cajun heritage I can not remember when I did not hunt. I had my first Duck call at six. Was running a trap line at twelve. We would Frog hunt at least once a week all night long during the warm months( Feb-Dec).
Got side lined for a year with polio when I was eleven. had to stay in bed for nine months. I cut out Sparrow decoys and my mother would place them around a pile of rice in the yard so I could bush whack them from the bed. Every Sunday my Dad would place a old Army cot on the edge of a lake so I could fish laying on my stomach.
Got over the polio just fine.Spent my high school years shooting nutria for the fur and meat market. We were so over run with them in the early sixties. It was not unusual to take a 100 to 150 a night. We would skin them then clean the carcass for dog food before going to bed after hunting all night. Went on to become a combat engineer, demolition specialist for Uncle Sam. They switched me to designated marksman, counter sniper till I lost a kidney in 89. became a machinist for Du Pont. The shift I worked left me with 14 days a month to hunt fish and trap.
Started my own Bird Dog and Chesapeake kennel. Would run my traps before daylight then run Dogs all day, and called at least three nights a week. After the Quail disappeared took up bow hunting.
I was always fascinated by game calling. Still have my P.S.Olt Crow call from 1957 and my Weems Wild call from 1959. After Duck season we would call Fox and Bobcats all night long. Then call Crows till we gave out. Brought my hunting partner home one morning and all his stuff was in the front yard. His soon to be X said " You have spent the last 53 Friday nights with Ronnie. You might as well move in with him. Lord she was good looking, just not very understanding.
Had to try SCUBA diving in the Gulf. Great way to get dead real easy. Lot of nasty stuff under those oil rigs and some of it has big teeth. The currents were the worst part. You could get blasted from a rig by sudden currents and be a half mile away before you could get to the surface. The Gulf of Mexico is a damn big place when you are bobbing around out there by yourself waiting to be found(Some were never found). Took up fly fishing for Sharks, Cobia and Jack fish.
At 52 I was hit with a rare neuromuscular disease. Still hunt from a wheel chair and a four wheeler. Compete in Trap, IDPA, and IPSIC from my wheel chair. Have gotten into long range bench rest and Hog shooting.
Mainly just hang out on the boards now pissing people off. Especially those super duper cowboys that have never even been kicked in the happy sack. Don't go telling me how great you are till you're calling partner has pulled a couple hundred thorns out of you're but with a Leatherman and you have done the same to him.
Other than that and a couple of friendly knife fights it's been a somewhat normal life.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on September 07, 2006, 05:37 AM:
Ronnie, sometimes I ain't the best partner. When Tim was done pulling cactus out of me years ago, I had a nice square white spot where my wallet sits, the rest of my ass was a mess! But I was mostly free of the needles. But when he tumbled head first into a bunch of cactus once while we were filming the first Varmint Safari though, he had them EVERYWHERE. Face, arms, back, ass, legs. Started yanking them out of the places he couldn't reach with a Leatherman, but there were just too many. I had to give it up and drive him to the doc instead!
- DAA
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 07, 2006, 07:21 AM:
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Other than that and a couple of friendly knife fights it's been a somewhat normal life.
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 07, 2006, 08:46 AM:
LOL, the thorn stories! And those wonderful infections that follow when the tips break off, an inch under the skin. I believe Loco has me on video doing the thorn dance with my pants around my ankles. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Ronnie, I'll drink to your missing kidney. I lost mine in 1950 falling out of a 40' eucalyptus tree.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 07, 2006, 08:57 AM:
A generally wasted life.
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 07, 2006, 10:12 AM:
LB, from the look of the front of those shorts, this must have been one of those "wasted" moments, LOL!
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 07, 2006, 10:21 AM:
LB, how much beer does it take to make you piss your pants??
![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 07, 2006, 10:37 AM:
Oh haha. That's spray from riding the jet ski.
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 07, 2006, 10:58 AM:
OK!
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 07, 2006, 12:35 PM:
Leonard, you know you can't reveal anything personal to these hooligans, they are brutal. And they are the ones that LIKE you.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 07, 2006, 01:14 PM:
Yeah, well. I can take away their vowels.
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 07, 2006, 03:29 PM:
dnt blv cn....
(how it works) LB
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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 07, 2006, 05:55 PM:
LOL. Thats funny right there..
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 07, 2006, 06:05 PM:
Might I suggest...
(I couldn't resist. Forgive me lord and all that pygmy crap.)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 07, 2006, 07:04 PM:
Lance, it's unbecoming of you to do such. I think you might possibly be jealous because I still have my hair?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 08, 2006, 03:46 PM:
Yeah, but what does that have to do with it?!?
(Actually, Behle's been egging me on to stir some turds up, and you were justy "there". Blame it on Tim.)
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 09, 2006, 06:31 AM:
"Why no officer, that's spray from riding the jet-ski."
Works for me.
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on September 09, 2006, 06:33 PM:
my name is chris, i'm 32 yrs. old and live in MI. for a living i do shipping/ sales for a small engine importer. i have been an outdoorsman from the time i was old enough to walk. i gave up hunting during my teen angst years and got back into it after "our band broke up." my first love was fishing. i grew up on the St. Clair river which is renowned for it's walleye and smallmouth bass. i have really done nothing to bring myself fame or fortune, although i did win a couple drinking contests when i was younger.
i am an avid archery deer hunter and i have been predator hunting for 6 years. the first couple years i was a bow- only predator hunter but have since graduated to something i can shoot more than sixty yards with. i love to be out calling, whether it is deer or predators. fooling an animal using a mouth call is the ultimate rush for me. i take great pride in my calling and try to be the best that i can. i hunt alone 99.9% of the time and prefer it that way. i have had no one to show me the ropes and i have learned what i know mostly thru trial and error.
my first called in predators were a pair of red fox. i was unarmed at the time but called them back 3 nights later and have been hooked ever since. i manage to call in more fox a year but have been increasing my called in coyotes steadily every year. i have been married for 5 years and have 2 boys, a 3yr. old and an 11 month old.
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Posted by ACC (Member # 903) on September 09, 2006, 09:23 PM:
Smithers,
I sure do miss fishing the St. Clair for eyes.
ACC
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 09, 2006, 10:34 PM:
Are eyes anything like yotes?
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on September 10, 2006, 06:15 AM:
"Are eyes anything like yotes?"
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WALL EYES Andy, wall eyes.
Posted by smithers (Member # 646) on September 10, 2006, 07:34 AM:
ACC, from what i hear it's been the best walleye fishing in 25 years. the river is only 45 minutes away from where i live and my dad's whole family lives in Marine City but i haven't slotted a time to go.
calling hamburgers, burgers and hot dogs, dogs annoys me. i guess the whole shortening of the entire language rubs me a little wrong. i try to use the proper name for everything but 'eyes and brats' (for bratwurst) don't bother me much. guy's over 16 still being called ricky, danny, sammy, johnny or bobby bothers me.
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 10, 2006, 07:43 AM:
Easy Smithers, it was just a freindly jab out of boredom...
Posted by ACC (Member # 903) on September 10, 2006, 05:21 PM:
The pickerel fishing is suppose to be good now. I haven't fished there for a few years now. Maybe you will catch my new citizen watch that I lost over the boat one night. ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
OMG,I just called them the wrong name
ACC
Posted by bruson (Member # 875) on September 10, 2006, 09:27 PM:
My name is Bruce Mason and I'll turn 60 in a few days. I grew up in south Arkansas hunting and fishing with my dad and his friends. Used to be good quail hunting around here when I was young and we always had a couple of bird dogs in the pen. I too started with a BB gun before graduating to a .22 and a 20 guage double barrel. After high school and a few years of college I spent 8 years in the Air Force. Moved to Texas in 1976 and went to work for Monsanto. Worked for Conoco and Dupont as a result of joint ventures and corporate buy-outs. Transfered to Orange, Tx in 1985 and met a fellow known as "varmit hunter" who I have hunted and fished with for the past 20 years. Ronnie introduced me to varmint calling/hunting and it has become an addiction. I have no claim to fame but through my association with Ronnie I have been on many memorable hunts and more than a few adventures that always seemed to feature various levels of pain and blood. I retired 2 years ago and left the gulf coast and moved back to south Arkansas. I have lurked around this board for years and have always enjoyed the reading and the freely shared information. I have learned a lot just by reading your responses to others questions. Thanks to all of you for the free flow of information and knowledge that is so willingly shared on this forum.
Bruce
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 10, 2006, 09:53 PM:
Welcome Bruce. Finally.
Posted by Crow Woman (Member # 157) on September 10, 2006, 09:58 PM:
Hey there Bruce... Good to see ya here
Posted by bruson (Member # 875) on September 10, 2006, 10:04 PM:
Thanks, Rich. Like I said, I've lurked here for years. My Dad always told me I could learn more with my ears open and my mouth shut. And then there is the old addage "It's better to let them think you are a dumb ass than open your mouth and remove all doubt." I wish that I could pick up Ronnie and drive out to the camp-out but I have a prior commitment on those dates. Maybe next year.
Posted by bruson (Member # 875) on September 10, 2006, 10:09 PM:
Thank you too, Sharri. You are in good company here. I sure have enjoyed your book. Thanks again.
Bruce
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on September 11, 2006, 02:53 AM:
Bruce. It wasn't all that bad. Well maybe when I rolled the truck in the rice field when it was 21 degress. There was some blood when we had to jump out of the boat during the midnight shark fishing trip. We really didn't break anything when I flipped the four wheeler over backwards with the dead Nelgi Antelope tied on the back while we were lost. You did feel better each time I took you to the Doctor,............... I think I just figured out why you moved to Arkansas so fast after you retired, and why you made previous plans before the campout.
Well it's 4:45 AM. Guess I will take some more pain pills and head back to bed. Glad you stopped in partner. Are you ever going to tell me what part of Arkansas you moved to?. I got us a Alligator hunting trip all lined up, and this one may be legal.
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on September 11, 2006, 05:59 AM:
How can you go back to bed so late in the morning?
Any more, if I have to get up any time after about 3:30, I just stay up. No point in crawling back in bed, only to toss and turn and wake up the wife.
2-3 times a week, I wake up with a leg cramp about 1 AM. I get it worked out and crawl back in bed just in time to have to pee. By the time I get back to bed a second time, I'm wide awake from walking around the house, and can't fall asleep until just before the alarm goes off.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 11, 2006, 07:13 AM:
Tim, toss a bar of Ivory soap under the sheet down by your legs, no more leg cramps. That one was courtesy of Ronnie and it works.
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 11, 2006, 08:13 AM:
Quinine is one of the few treatments shown to help reduce nocturnal cramps. I drink a glass or two of Schwepps Quinine Water as soon as a cramp starts and then walk it off. I get them in my thigh and also in my foot. The quinine seems to help.
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on September 11, 2006, 12:20 PM:
Tom and Tim. The Ivory soap does work. It will be the end of you're leg cramps. The Doctors even admit it works, but they cant explain why.
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 11, 2006, 01:16 PM:
ROTFLMFAO Thats funny shit right there....
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on September 11, 2006, 02:16 PM:
AWESOME!!!
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on September 11, 2006, 02:21 PM:
Damn. Did you ever ruin a fine plate of fried pork chops, sweet taters, and green beans.
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 11, 2006, 02:57 PM:
Dang, he's got the sneer down pat, too. All you need now is a tag line like, "Team Chicken Chokers", and a product endorsement list and you'll be an instant internet celebrity!
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on September 11, 2006, 04:02 PM:
Dang Leonard, you just made me shoot beer out of my nose and now the keyboard is soaked.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on September 11, 2006, 04:12 PM:
You have to master the correct camera angle Leonard. If you'll notice, G?, always has the camera nestled snuggly at ground level, thus always appearing all knowing,omnipotent,as he gazes down on his minions. You do have the sneer down pat though....good job,and keep the doo-rag pulled just over your brow.
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 11, 2006, 05:33 PM:
Leonard,
Now you just have to work on that handlebar mustache.And you will have it down.LOL Chad
By the way what kinda camo is your "DO"? LOL
[ September 11, 2006, 05:36 PM: Message edited by: UTcaller ]
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on September 11, 2006, 06:23 PM:
I see the Do-rag man has a post of his great hunt posted on 24 hour campfire site.
Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on September 11, 2006, 06:30 PM:
Team Hammer Head!!! Bust dem yotes home boy. LMAO
Yep, ya need a handlebar stash, a half a dozen more screen names, a few road kills and then post your pics on every board that will have you. Never know? You might be famous one day?
Good hunting.
Q,
Posted by varmit hunter (Member # 37) on September 11, 2006, 07:00 PM:
How about team Leader of the Pampus Ass Know it all Posse. We could all get T-Shirts with Proud Pampas Ass on them. Surely we can get a deal on a case of those goggle eyed glasses. Just for the record I am not going to pierce anything.
Posted by Cowboyvon (Member # 854) on September 11, 2006, 07:02 PM:
Damm that is funny...
Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on September 11, 2006, 07:11 PM:
I think we just ruined a good thread? We need a separate thread/forum for bashing people. LOL In all seriousness I have heard he is a nice guy in person though. Somewhere we all just got off on the wrong foot.
Good hunting.
Q,
[ September 11, 2006, 07:23 PM: Message edited by: Q-Wagoner ]
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 11, 2006, 08:17 PM:
Damn leonard,
I just got home from watching my son's FB team get their asses handed to them and the first thread I open is this one. That's some funny stuff. Thanks for the laugh. But,.....
That second pic makes that do-rage look kinda like y'all got a pair of cammie panties on your head.
I say that if Leonard needs a new "pimpin'" screen name, he needs to go with something like, say, "L Bo" (get that J Lo thing going.)
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 12, 2006, 07:38 AM:
Say, that's what my doctor told me once, "Don't put anything in your ear smaller than your L Bo".
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 12, 2006, 07:43 AM:
I don't know......maybe Leonard needs a big gold earring and a parrot on his shoulder. "Yaaarrrrr, we be PIRATE PAMPUS KNOW IT ALLS!!!!
Posted by KevinKKaller (Member # 559) on September 13, 2006, 06:45 PM:
Hello all. My name is Kevin Lukens I was born in Ks But grew up in South east AZ Have been hunting and hunting Coyotes sence 11 years old I too started with a bb gun shooting sparowa and windows as a 5 year old Started the barn on fire on the ranch shooting matches out of the bb gun at hornet nests Got my butt kicked for that one.
My first coyote shot was from a grupe that was eating a calf still coming out of its mother. so at first I had a hate relationship I fell in love calling coyotes at a young age and have never stoped I am now 46.
I have never done anything great BUT I have been blesed with having some great frends hear and around the country I have been lucky enouph to hunt with sone of the best thear is. Rich and Tyler are real speshol people around our house. Christiane seas HI. Lance, Nasa, Danny and I could go on Thanks all.
I am fortunat enouph to keep hunting for all I have tried to do in my life.
I started to make K-Kalls a few years ago and have shipped them all over the world. I now have a small line of my calls mass prodused.
Living in AZ most of my life and a new twist in fate brought my wife and I to Idaho about center of the state It is butifol country and loadded with an aboudance of game Sep 2 I Killed my first coyote hear first trip out.
We have only been hear a short wial and just got the phone lines ran so I can read and post again
Great thread
Thanks and good hunting Kevin
Posted by bearmanric (Member # 223) on September 13, 2006, 07:51 PM:
Kevin talked to sly the other night coming to the sly's hunt a week early to help him. hope to meet you there. Rick
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 13, 2006, 08:40 PM:
Kevin, is this Idaho thing temporary, or will you be staying?
Posted by KevinKKaller (Member # 559) on September 13, 2006, 09:13 PM:
bearmanrick I will be seting things up for the turnimentand will be glad to meet you But I am already entered in the Midwest calling event in Ks the same weekend so I will not Be hunting the Turny this year.
I did receve a great honer at last years midwest event and realy dont want to miss that hunt as long as I am abole.
Nasa It is permanat Christiane is from E-Germany and missed the snow , cold and mountans and when I got the medicol news that I got we started the relocation prosses. Left the 2 Boys (You remimimber Bobby) and Peet in our house in AZ and headded north. Now it looks like I am going to beet the Docs for a wial and am going to travol and hunt a LOT
I will Be in AZ oct for a ELK and coyote hunt Az for the world in Dec then Ks for the MidwestIn Jan.
And put on A hunt hear in Idaho each month threw April for the GSPHA. I Just love to hunt coyotes
Hope all is well whith you
Good hunting Kevin
Posted by J_hun (Member # 872) on September 14, 2006, 06:51 AM:
I'm just a normal guy who likes huntin coyotes and enjoying life. I look at some of you guys resumes and they are impressive. Me , I am a low key guy who just gets the job done. I have been at it for quite some time and the only regret I have not getting into the commercial side of it many yrs. ago. With my family raised and retired, I hunt and do what I want, and when I want. Everything I have learned about coyotes has been through first hand experience and I feel that is a good lesson for everyone. You can read and listen to everyone and pickup a lot of information, but until you actually go out there and do it, you haven't experienced the real thing. One of the things I like to do is take somebody out that hasn't experienced calling in a coyote and get there reactions. Quite pleasant. I have piled up a lot of coyotes and won a few contests, but who cares. Some people thrive on that and that's okay. Now as I phase out in the contest, I just like going and visiting and listening to all the contestants as they tell about shoulda, woulda, coulda. As far as accomplishments, not much there that really matters. I was a state indoor archery champion and won several tournaments around the state. Was a 3 handi-caper in golf, was an all-stater in basketball and football. You might say I am an old has been. I still like my coyote huntin though. Someday, I hope to meet some of you guys. That's about it. I'm going on vacation here in about two weeks, just just going to the West Coast and then in Jan. to Texas for awhile. That's about it for me.
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 14, 2006, 08:22 AM:
Kevin, I'm not going to miss the Midwest in Ks this Jan, so I'll see you there. I think I owe you one, if I'm not mistaken.
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on September 14, 2006, 01:28 PM:
J_hun, good to have ya around. You sound like a been there done that type of guy. I'll look foreward to reading your input.
Kevin KKaller, Where about in the state are you located?
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 14, 2006, 03:27 PM:
Jerry, J_Hun, Scott Huber made me buy one of your howlers at the St. Francis event last Jan. Good tone. I've seen the video clip of you voice howling. Awesome. I wish I could do that. But alas, I have no talent.
Good to have you here. You should think about making the campout. We codgers need backup.
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on September 14, 2006, 05:47 PM:
J_hun,
Welcome to the home of the Pompass Knowitalls!
Posted by KevinKKaller (Member # 559) on September 14, 2006, 06:17 PM:
Lonny I live in Cascade just south of Macall.
Keep in touch we are starting to have some hunts now.
Nasa I think we are even I diddent make it to Colorado last year I was to sick at the time But I am stronger now than I have been in 4 of 5 years. So I will be reay for the trip. Cant wait to see you.
Good hunting Kevin
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on September 14, 2006, 07:59 PM:
I'm not all that great at a lot of things.
But can kick anyone's ass!!!!
Taking bets. I'll be at the campout!
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on September 14, 2006, 08:06 PM:
Careful there smokedancer, Jack and Jose are both coming to the camp out too. And if I recall, they did a pretty good job of kicking your ass last time!
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 14, 2006, 08:57 PM:
Bwaaahaaaahaaahaaa!
I'm looking forward to the encore. Smoke dancin' in a jockstrap!
Posted by keekee (Member # 465) on September 14, 2006, 10:09 PM:
"Smoke dancin' in a jockstrap!"
Oh, I hope not! Smoke dance OK, Jackstrap not OK....LMAO!
NASA, you kill me!
Brent
Edit...Cant spell!
[ September 14, 2006, 10:10 PM: Message edited by: keekee ]
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on September 14, 2006, 10:15 PM:
That was a very most excellent burn Tim!!! I walked right into that one.
Okay, moving on to the next issue.
KeeKee, if you absolutely insist, I'll remove the jock-strap!!!
[ September 14, 2006, 10:41 PM: Message edited by: Locohead ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 15, 2006, 06:50 AM:
Loco; Outstanding recovery & counter point. Nicely done!!
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 15, 2006, 08:12 AM:
Just based on the prelims, I predict this years campout is going to be outstanding!!
Posted by keekee (Member # 465) on September 15, 2006, 11:24 AM:
Loco,
Im sure if I film it, someone will buy it!
Brent
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 15, 2006, 11:58 AM:
Brent, you will find that everything gets filmed at these campouts, lol.
Posted by Rex (Member # 923) on September 15, 2006, 10:31 PM:
[ September 17, 2006, 01:14 PM: Message edited by: Rex ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 15, 2006, 10:49 PM:
Yes, of course. Welcome to the New Huntmasters, "Rex". Glad to have you on board.
Good hunting. LB
PS have you met Mr Lonely boy, yet?
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 16, 2006, 12:00 AM:
Perspective is a fickle bitch, ain't she. Sometimes cruel, sometimes a ****.
I started this thread tongue in cheek, motivated by a series of very unflattering posts on another board about all of us here that have become comfortable in the company of good men of similar bent.
The measure of a man is the sum total of his experiences and I was sincere in my request to all of the kindred spirits here to share their very personal life and predator hunting summaries in order that we each will KNOW with whom we are sharing Leonard's board.
I have lost two good friends over this and the other threads on this board that were motivated by events on PM. Their perspective differed from mine. They have told me that this thread is "mean spirited". It is not. I take solace in the immortal words of that great southern playwight Tennesee Williams, who said,
"F*** it, Y'all."
Each and everyone of us is great and small, and to anyone still reading this drunken diatribe who has not shared their resumes, I really do hope that you will.
Posted by nailbender (Member # 897) on September 16, 2006, 12:44 AM:
Seems like a good time to chime in. I'm new here and fairly new to the net. I've enjoyed learning a little more about you guys in this thread and its only fair to share a lttle about me.
Really didn't try coyote hunting seriously till last year and it wasn't a successful start. A friend introduced me to this and then lost interest. So I've been pretty much on my own. Posts from experienced guys like yourselves have greatly helped my learning curve.
I live in NW Iowa, been here most of my life,(45) and haven't done anything of note except take care of myself and those who count on me.
Just hangin around trying to learn somethin', Dave B.
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 16, 2006, 07:49 AM:
Rich, this thread seems more like a response to a challenge, than a mean-spirited proclamation. It took me a few days to interpret your intent, before I would post in it, but that was my conclusion. If I really believed this was intended as a put-down of the less accomplished, we probably wouldn't still be friends. I'm sorry to hear that this wasn't equally as evident to others.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 16, 2006, 08:22 AM:
I have watched Higgins work a room, and I marvel at his capacity for networking all over the country. He's always friendly to strangers, eagar to make new friends. I wish I had a bit of his personality, I'd do well in life.
I don't think he is capable of starting a mean spirited thread, and if he did, a true friend would cut him some slack, (for sure) and believe that he must have good reason.
Anyone that would lose Rich's friendship because he started this thread is the real loser.
ICK! Now everybody thinks I have my hand in his jockstrap! ICK! Ugg!
Good hunting. LB
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 16, 2006, 08:53 AM:
For anyone who feels slighted or disdained by this thread, think about this:
Achievements are the consummation of aspirations. Achievement of any kind is the reward of effort. Without dedication, aspirations are only lust and go unfulfilled.
A man is literally what he thinks, his character being the complete sum of all his thoughts. And in the end, it's character that counts.
Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on September 16, 2006, 09:05 AM:
Jay,
Sent ya an e-mail awhile back. No answer.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 16, 2006, 10:58 AM:
Oh Man! This is why I can't drink. That was a six beer post and this morning I have to read it with a hangover. Pampass.
Tom, very cool pampass post. How many beers did you have?
Leonard, I was going to tell you how much your post touched me, but it seems really inappropriate now. ICK.
Nailbender, welcome. I'm glad that you joined us.
There are some genuine pampass knowitalls from Iowa that hangout here that can shorten that curve for you.
Posted by Freddie (Member # 952) on September 16, 2006, 02:40 PM:
Geez, I guess it's my turn in the barrel. I started calling coyotes in 1964. I bought one of those Circe Bobcat Coyote and Fox calls, the one that you turn the head of it and you've got three different selections. I also picked up a Del Webb 45rpm instruction record. I must have been driving my parents crazy! And they most likely thought I was! There weren't many coyotes where I lived at the time, but I sure had the foxes coming in and the white owls that kept diving at my head. I played around with that until 1969 when Uncle Sam wanted my service. I didn't get back into it after that. Did a lot of bear hunting, pig hunting and deer hunting. Heck, I even shot some of those squeakers out in the alphalpha fields of southern Oregon and northern California. About 6 years ago, I started calling again in Modoc County, CA and part of Nevada. Some of the instructional videos out have helped me figure out what's going on. I've done okay, but there's tons more to learn. I was fortunate enough to retire at age 55 so during the winter, I can get out 3 or 4 times a week. As you can see, I've dreamed of being able to spend the time inveigling the coyote. Now after all these years, I'm doing what I like. I'm a friendly sort of fellow, pretty mellow and I like to stay on the positive side of life. My name is Fred and I live in northern Arizona now. Right here in Coyote Central. Coyote and quail are about all I care to hunt anymore - I might try to get a javelina someday. I learned at an early age that I was above average at shooting. I have nothing to prove, that's just the way it is, no big deal. Hope to meet you guys and if you ever give me any lessons, I will remain open to let them in.
[ September 17, 2006, 10:27 PM: Message edited by: Freddie ]
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 16, 2006, 06:14 PM:
Just something to ponder. This thread's name is not unlike another thread on another board entitled, "Tell Us A Little About Yourself" which, as of this writing, is sixty pages long, has had nearly 5,300 hits and collected 593 posts by well intending people who chose to share with their cohorts their accomplishments and credentials. I myself posted pretty much the same thing there that I posted here, and at the time, they were thankful for my participation. Now, for doing the same thing over here, I'm chastised for being malicious? That thread was begun on 28 February 2001 and still remains active.
Is it because those at that board hold its author in higher esteem than they do Higgins? They must not know Higgins all that well.
Maybe they'll claim that the difference lies in the intent of the initiator. Who knows for sure what Rich meant in his starting this thread other than himself? I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt and take him at his word when he clearly pointed out his intentions. If that's all it took to scuttle a presumed friendship, he's better off not having them around. Some folks need to drink less coffee.
Posted by Bryan J (Member # 106) on September 16, 2006, 08:57 PM:
My name is Bryan Ward, I will let the J be like Andy’s L. I’m not great, the fact of the matter is I’m a wanabe, as in wanabe more consistent, knowledgeable, and successful on stand. Everything that I think that I know and understand about coyotes has been taught or pointed out to me by someone else. I let the coyote prove them right or wrong. Some of those who have taught me post here and there, others don’t post anywhere. My first kill ever was an Oregon Junko Christmas ’76 with my new Red Rider 17 cal. My first predator was a badger that was a target of opportunity while hunting ducks about 4 years later. As far as my calling achievements go they are a series of personal bests, nothing great. The most gratifying coyote that I have called fell to my wife’s gun.
I spent just short of 10 years twisting wrenches on Fords. I earned Ford Motor Company’s highest award given to technicians. In the fall of 2003 I took over the family farm but didn’t quit Ford until the following May. I’m just finishing up my 3rd growing season to me there is nothing more rewarding than looking over a field of wheat, corn or alfalfa and knowing that I had a small part in it, unless of course you count multiple coyotes coming in on a string.
It has been almost 2 years now since I married Heather who I met on the internet. Had she not said the magic words, “coyote hunting” in her profile I never would have contacted her. She has been pestering me for weeks to get out and do some calling. I guess we will give it a try in the morning, I have a new call to try out.
Posted by Jay Nistetter (Member # 140) on September 16, 2006, 09:11 PM:
2D,
Send the email again if you have it.
Don't recall getting one.
Posted by 2dogs (Member # 649) on September 17, 2006, 07:15 AM:
Jay,
Another one sent. Let me know.
Posted by Cal Taylor (Member # 199) on September 17, 2006, 04:12 PM:
Higgins and all, I sure see nothing wrong with this thread. I think some of it wandered away from coyote hunting, and went on into other aspects of everyones bios and I have found it great reading. It has helped to get to know some of you here alot better. I was going to put down some stuff, but can't seem to write it in a way that doesn't sound like an advertisement or a toot of ones own horn. And since I dislike some of the tooting that has been going on by others in other places, I haven't yet been able to think of a way to write down credentials without it sounding like another "self promoting pimp".
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 17, 2006, 05:08 PM:
Cal, just from what little I know about you, I dont think theres any way anyone would think you were tootin a horn. Just tell it like it is.
Posted by Alaskan Yoter (Member # 169) on September 17, 2006, 05:21 PM:
Lol Cal! Just enter a non-tooting disclaimer at the bottom of your post and it'll all be good.
Hey Uncle Jay glad to see ya back!!!!!!
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 17, 2006, 06:13 PM:
Cal, You were asked to offer it up, so it isn't tooting if it's the facts. Start tootin', man.
(BTW, the only ppl that are offended by someone tooting their own horn with truthful facts are those that are upset that they lack the credentials to keep up.)
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 17, 2006, 06:27 PM:
Cal, I know exactly what you mean. I began twice and stopped for the same reason. A post earlier in the thread about my "bloated head" had something to do with that also.
You are pretty much golden. I don't believe that anyone can take anything away from your bio.
Do a google properly and enough on you comes up to get a small idea of who you are. It would be great if you posted a complete and factual bio though, complete with photos, or even watercolors, or crayon drawings.
edit:besides everyone already knows that you are a PAKMAN.
[ September 17, 2006, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: Rich Higgins ]
Posted by sparkyibewlocal440 (Member # 397) on September 17, 2006, 06:58 PM:
Does Heather have any sisters?
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on September 17, 2006, 07:35 PM:
PAKMAN!!!
I propose that L Bo change the designations from senor member and member to PAKMan and Senior PAKMan.
Do I hear a second?
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 17, 2006, 07:56 PM:
second and third
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 17, 2006, 08:57 PM:
Team PAKMAN?
Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on September 17, 2006, 10:34 PM:
Cal you really don’t need to fold to the pressure. Your reputation precedes you. At least you can live well knowing your reputation is built on what you have done and NOT built on smoke and mirrors like the pimps you are referring too.
I see where you are coming from though. Look at it this way it is a request not a self-initiated plea for notoriety.
Good hunting.
Q,
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on September 18, 2006, 10:28 AM:
Cal,
I know you are proud of your life. Share it with us! Heck, I'm even proud of your life! LOL
That goes for you too Chig'! I have spent many hours with you getting to know lots and lots more about coyotes that you! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and you stories.
But as the caterpillar sitting on the giant mushroom with the big ol' bong in Alice Wonderland said, "Whooooooo are Yoooooooooo?"
edit: because I didn't type Cal...now I did
[ September 18, 2006, 10:29 AM: Message edited by: Locohead ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 18, 2006, 10:30 AM:
So, Loco. What do I do with the Guess shades you left at my house?
Posted by Bryan J (Member # 106) on September 19, 2006, 08:01 AM:
Sparky, she has six sisters 4 of them in their 20’s 3 of them are available. There was a time when I was gone on an extended hunt that 3 of them took the Fox Pro out and made some noise. They had a lot of fun.
Posted by Tyler H (Member # 383) on September 21, 2006, 10:10 AM:
Hey everyone, just thought i would throw in my two cents here. With almost having 20 years experience and coming up on my 21 birthday i can say that here in arizona i do pretty well with my dad calling. I know that i didnt just walk out in the desert sit down and the coyotes came. I have gotten a chance to hunt with many of you and i have to say i owe alot of the knowledge i have to alot of you guys and my dad. i see or hear what you guys do and take what i want and leave what i dont want. I just wanted to thank many of you for helping me become a better caller. I wouldnt know what i know now with out the help of many of you so thank you.
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on September 21, 2006, 10:44 AM:
Almost 21 with 20 years experience. I had no idea they even made camo diapers Skyler!
I'm looking forward to seeing you again this month, hopfully I'll get another opportunity to hunt and again learn more from YOU!
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 21, 2006, 11:08 AM:
Hey TigerTyler, you're supposed to be studying in class. What are you doing slumming with us?
Posted by Tyler H (Member # 383) on September 21, 2006, 01:00 PM:
I am in class but the board is more entertaining then the teacher talkin about a computer screen. ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif)
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 21, 2006, 01:18 PM:
Are you guys having phone problems down there? I'm getting a "Not in Service" message from the house.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 21, 2006, 02:27 PM:
Probably. The computer is on that line and I have a lot of problems with it. I'll call you.
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on September 21, 2006, 03:00 PM:
Sorry, I had to run. 4:00 staff meeting. TTYL.
Posted by J. Holly (Member # 591) on October 01, 2006, 05:46 PM:
Hello all, My name is Jeffrey Holly. Here is my claim to fame.
I am a friend to some, a stranger to many. I have a beautiful wife, a great son, and the best parents that a man could have. I am steadily employed, and not a burden on our society. I believe in God, our country and our citizens. Occasionally, I kill a critter or two.
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on October 01, 2006, 06:00 PM:
Jeff, why'd you stop there? I can think of at least a few more qualities that make you special.
Posted by J. Holly (Member # 591) on October 01, 2006, 07:06 PM:
Well, thanks NASA. I didn't figure I would list all of my attributes, but I figured just those I was most proud of would suffice.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on October 01, 2006, 07:15 PM:
I know a little about you also, Jeff. You're waaaaay too modest.
Posted by J. Holly (Member # 591) on October 01, 2006, 09:55 PM:
Thanks Rich, coming from you that means a lot.
Posted by REM223PA (Member # 332) on October 03, 2006, 09:33 PM:
I am Just another guy that loves busting primers no more no less.
[ October 04, 2006, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: REM223PA ]
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on October 04, 2006, 03:03 AM:
Im sorry, but thats a pretty sad lookin pic to put on a public forum... JMO
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on October 04, 2006, 05:04 AM:
I see seven dead coyotes in the photo. Looks ok to me.
Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on October 04, 2006, 05:16 AM:
The sad part is that it is a guy from PA who posted the picture. Doesn't he know that he is going to destroy the myth of the eastern coyote by doing stuff like that!
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on October 04, 2006, 05:33 AM:
Nice picture Rem.
Texas Coyote?
Dennis
Edit: Here's a few laying on the ground
[ October 04, 2006, 05:52 AM: Message edited by: Greenside ]
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on October 04, 2006, 06:42 AM:
Hey George, I'm with Tim. That would be good for any state.
Posted by PAyotehunter (Member # 764) on October 04, 2006, 07:36 AM:
Yup, Texas.
George knows about PA hunting.
Shit! Seven in PA would take a few months, at best!
How about someone start a new thread if we are going to get into the east vs. west thing.
Posted by bearmanric (Member # 223) on October 04, 2006, 07:55 AM:
i'll be trying my luck in Pa in a couple week's. turkey's and predator and learn to carve on my call's. might hunt the Misqito hunt to. cant wait to get there. Rick
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 04, 2006, 08:49 AM:
All I know is what I read, and they all say that PA would produce except that them guys can't shoot for beans? Now, Texas, on the other hand, if I ever get there, I prolly need a black AR? And, hip boots.
Good hunting. LB
(just kidding)
edit: By the way, for Andy's edification and anybody else, There are no rules on HM about blood and dead animals.....within the bounds of generally recognized good taste. (whatever that means?)
[ October 04, 2006, 08:52 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by REM223PA (Member # 332) on October 04, 2006, 10:03 AM:
Rick you come to PA you have to let me take you out for a turkey and do some predator calling!!!!
Andy i do apologize if the photo of them there TEXAS coyote bothered ya i have removed it
a PA dog
[ October 04, 2006, 10:28 AM: Message edited by: REM223PA ]
Posted by Greenside (Member # 10) on October 04, 2006, 10:03 AM:
Test,
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on October 04, 2006, 10:06 AM:
Hey, yall do what you want. Just voicing my opinion. Thats ok too, eh LB?
Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on October 04, 2006, 10:15 AM:
HEY!
What the heck arre you guys doing? Remember what happened when the word got out how good the deer hunting back here was?
Man, keep them believeing we dont have any coyotes and that we can't shoot for crap. It's REALLY good for the huning
Al
Posted by REM223PA (Member # 332) on October 04, 2006, 10:17 AM:
I know this is getting off the subject but I would like to say I am not always mean to the departed coyote by putting them on a fence.
Just make for good photos
sometime they ride with me
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on October 04, 2006, 10:22 AM:
223, no problem here. That was just my opinion and one I normally dont offer. But, its a bit late now. Look at the time I posted that and you can imagine, I was a bit groggy....
Welcome aboard.
Edit: When I say groggy, I dont mean drunk either. I was dealing with a problem client last night til early morning and then had to be in court an hour from here by 830. That means no sleep.... And, to top it off, while "conversing" with the problem client and trying to convince him my way was the right way, I think I broke a bone in my left hand.... Rough day and night. Im going to get some rest.
Sorry for the out of line post....
[ October 04, 2006, 10:54 AM: Message edited by: Andy L ]
Posted by REM223PA (Member # 332) on October 04, 2006, 12:08 PM:
No problem Andy I have them same days pal.....
I seen your sons turkey photo good job pal
I love nothing more then a big cool aid smile on a kid....
That hunt will be something he will never forget.
I hope the upcoming season will be one for the book for you 2 and I for one will be waiting on the photos
GOOD HUNTING
George
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 04, 2006, 02:07 PM:
Put your pic back up, George. If people are offended by it, they shouldn't be in this room.
Those dead turkeys really grossed me out!
I'm just kidding, Andy. Don't worry about it. LB
Posted by PAyotehunter (Member # 764) on October 04, 2006, 02:44 PM:
Rick,
Where in PA you going?
Leonard,
Did you get my e-mail?
George,
Are you going to be up Pike county at all before the Maine hunt?
Al,
Did you ever think about hunting in PA?? I have a cabin in north east PA, just let me know if you ever want to come down. I may be up in your area soon. I've been asked to help with a coyote study up that way. Just waiting for all the red lights to turn green.
Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on October 04, 2006, 03:09 PM:
A coyote study in NH? I would sure be interested in knowing about that.
Thanks for the offer of hunting in PA. I know you folks have beautiful country there, and lots of quality game animals.
This time of year is tough. Soccer with my youngest. His team might make the playoffs and that means some traveling this fall. Gotta love it
Al
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 04, 2006, 03:37 PM:
PA, yeah, I just found it in my spam files. Go ahead, I allow everybody to post whatever they have for sale as a service to the membership. I do not make a dime from Huntmasters, it costs me money and it is not for profit. In fact, I welcome whatever you have for sale, unlike, well, nevermind. Thanks for asking, but it isn't necessary.
Good hunting. LB
Posted by PAyotehunter (Member # 764) on October 04, 2006, 04:13 PM:
Leonard,
I thought it would be ok but just wanted to ask first.
Thanks
Al,
Its not in NH, real close though.
I have three kids, so I know what your saying. Just give me a shout if you ever want to.
Posted by REM223PA (Member # 332) on October 04, 2006, 04:43 PM:
PAyote
I will be up this weekend fri sat sun..
I am up now 3 days a week fishing is done for me now.
I got tired of driving so much when out calling so I put a camper up about another 30 miles to the west so when I am calling wayne and Susquehanna Co I don't need to drive back to pike so i may be there also some weeks
i have 2 nice cats that came in up in Susquehanna last year i didn't get a tag but going to see if i can get better video of them this year
ps
i still cant log on to that sight you told me about last month?
and thanks Leonard about the photo
[ October 04, 2006, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: REM223PA ]
Posted by PAyotehunter (Member # 764) on October 04, 2006, 06:29 PM:
George,
I'll be up at camp this weekend also. The wife and kids are going. I plan on taking my oldest daughter(9) out on a few stands.
I was up last weekend, found some new areas with lots of sign. Called one in but he was moving pretty good and I could not get him in the scope.
As far as huntnpa.com,
I should have your account fixed by tomorrow night. If you can't log on after tomorrow evening let me know and we'll delete your account so you can re-register with your same name.
Thanks
Aaron
Posted by bearmanric (Member # 223) on October 04, 2006, 06:45 PM:
i will be staying in Womelsdorf Pa with Hunt n Carve Dave Paul. we will be hunting several place's deer camp's. going to learn how to carve on my call's to. excited might visit Foxpro.. flying in to Harrisburg the 25th oct. Rick
Posted by PAyotehunter (Member # 764) on October 04, 2006, 07:16 PM:
I never heard of Womelsdorf, but Harrisburg's only 45 min. west of me. I heard of hunt-n-carve but do not know him.
Good luck and have fun.
Aaron
Posted by bearmanric (Member # 223) on October 04, 2006, 07:22 PM:
it also say's W.Berk's in his profile. he is 45 min from Harrisburg. i'm going to hunt the misquito hunt is that a good one in feb. Rick
Posted by PAyotehunter (Member # 764) on October 04, 2006, 07:59 PM:
Ok, he is on the other side of the county, I'm right on the Berks/Lehigh county line.
Mosquito creek is a big hunt.
Here are some stats from the Feb.20,21,22 2004 hunt:
4,192 hunters registered
47 coyotes taken
total prize money: $20,960.00
Methods used:
Calls-22
Dogs-18
Tracking-5
Driving-1
Sitting-1
1st place-51.35lbs.
2nd place-47.95lbs
3rd place-44.20lbs
Feb.18,19,20 2005
4,373 hunters
102 coyotes
prize money $21,865.00
called-40
dogs-48
tracking-3
driving-8
sitting-2
walking-1
1st place 45.50lbs
2nd 43.90
3rd 43.50
Feb. 17,18,19 2006 (15th annual)
4,406 hunters registered
62 coyotes taken
Prize money: $22,030
called- 30
dogs- 24
drives- 5
tracking- 3
1st place 51.30lbs
2nd 47.60
3rd 43.10
Here is their address if you want more info
www.mosquitocreeksportsmen.com
Posted by Jack Roberts (Member # 13) on October 04, 2006, 09:50 PM:
Anybody who thinks Eastern coyotes are easy needs to look at those numbers.
1-2% with money on the table.
Jack
Posted by Nahuatl (Member # 708) on October 05, 2006, 07:33 AM:
I computed an even drearier statistic from that mess. 4400 hunters times 3 days in the field divided by 62 coyotes = 213 man days per coyote.
So if I shoot 5 coyotes in a day, does that mean the hunting in California is 1065 times better than it is in Pennsylvania?
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on October 05, 2006, 07:44 AM:
No, it means the hunting results are better.
Posted by browning204 (Member # 821) on October 05, 2006, 09:18 AM:
WOW those are pretty crappy stats.
Even though it's not, it feels like over 200 days per coyote or coyote shot at!
Posted by REM223PA (Member # 332) on October 05, 2006, 10:17 AM:
They are the statistic...
But it's really all about the hunt anyway,
like they say hunting the hunter
And living in a place that's not so coyote friendly for a predator caller,
It just makes it that much better when the fur doze finally hit the ground.
anyway when I wont to just kill predator I go to Texas
when I wont to challenge my calling&woodsmanship
I go out back
The Texas thing was light humor
I may live in PA but my hunters hart is in Texas
[ October 05, 2006, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: REM223PA ]
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on October 05, 2006, 11:49 AM:
Those guys just have to work harder because of all the water and trees they have going for them. PA probably has more linear miles of "running" water than AZ and NV combined. That makes for lotsa' greenery. Been there, hunted that.
Posted by Q-Wagoner (Member # 33) on October 05, 2006, 11:52 AM:
You guys suck!! LOL There is a guy up there named Tom Burchel or something like that, that says he kills 100 a year by himself!! I heard he said his best year was 200 coyotes and around 100 fox. He does give lesions and demos also. From the sounds of it you guys should consider taking some of them in. Gerald Stewart has vouched for him before so he must be legit. LOL
Just rubbing you Gerald. LOL
Good hunting.
Q,
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 05, 2006, 01:06 PM:
Gerald, you say?
He has vowed (via snotty email)never to darken our door, here at Huntmasters, ever again, and I intend to hold him to it. Seems that although he could never quite figure out who is at fault between BS and GG and Higgins, or perhaps doesn't have the *****, he has quickly decided that it's all my fault, ultimately, for allowing the discussion to take place. Judging by his diatribe, it is difficult to understand how I ever thought of him as a friend, all these years? Reading his letter, I felt like pond scum, he left nothing out, like he even talked to my third grade teacher, or something?
My humble efforts to provide a wide open forum is called, hypocrisy. In fact, the title of the email is "hypocrisy". He informs me that they are more "civil" on PM.
Of course, I have no intention of responding to his rambling accusations, I will just take this opportunity to publically acknowledge receipt of such a remarkable document from such a well known bastion of decorum. And, I will refer to it frequently, whenever I get to thinking that I have an ounce of self worth.
Oh, and thank you for clearing the air. LB
Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on October 05, 2006, 01:11 PM:
Quote, He does give lesions and demos also.
I don't know about the demo's,but i would say he got lesions "BRAIN LESIONS"
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on October 05, 2006, 03:11 PM:
Hypocrisy= pretending to be something that you ain't. I can think of a few folks who fit that description, but Leonard ain't one of em.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on October 05, 2006, 03:49 PM:
The lifespan of a hypocrite on this board is, well, quite short. Maybe therein lies the biggest difference between the two boards.
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on October 05, 2006, 04:08 PM:
I'd agree wholeheartedly... but I don't know jack about the other board.
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on October 05, 2006, 04:33 PM:
Tripp, you ought to go over and check PM out. It's actually a dandy board. There are a lot of terrific guys that hang out there and some of them are real heavyweights, know their stuff. They have some very good moderators and then they have BS and RF, bummer, oh and GG holds court there also. Oh well still a good board.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 05, 2006, 04:54 PM:
Hey, no board war; I promise!
But, perhaps a small caution. Trip, when you go there, they have quality people that contribute, but you can never forget; they use censorship with enthusiasm and without apology. LB
Posted by REM223PA (Member # 332) on October 05, 2006, 04:57 PM:
Q
I haven't hard of the man they call Tom Burchel.
But if he is really doing all the killing on coyote here in PA
I am going to get A tattoo his face on my back because he is a god and my new hero
i wounder if he need a partner for the big tornny
total prize money: $20,960.00 thats good and all we would need is just like 2% of his yearly harvest in 3 days we bees in da moneys
[ October 05, 2006, 04:57 PM: Message edited by: REM223PA ]
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on October 05, 2006, 05:03 PM:
Rich,
You encode any cryptic messages in that post? If not, I'm content. No interest in what lies on the other side of the fence.
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on October 05, 2006, 05:07 PM:
Leonard, in my opinion you run a great board. As long as there are guys here who know more about coyotes than I do (and believe me there are many), I could give a rat about the other board.
[ October 05, 2006, 05:09 PM: Message edited by: The Outdoor Tripp ]
Posted by PAyotehunter (Member # 764) on October 05, 2006, 05:11 PM:
George,
The guys name is Tom Bechdel. If you ever talk to him make sure you are wearing chest waders, the BS gets REAL deep. He has a video out, in his video he says that he saw a herd of 25 to 30 coyotes in one field and shot 5 or 6 out of the herd.
Here is a link to my site where someone who saw the video was talking about it.
http://huntnpa.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1156080961
There was also a thread in huntingpa about him a couple weeks ago.
Let me know if you can log in or not.
Thanks.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 05, 2006, 05:13 PM:
PS, Rich Cronk, that's a nice compliment. Thank you. LB
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on October 05, 2006, 05:24 PM:
25 to 30 coyotes in a "herd" in a field in Pennsylvania?
Bullshit.
Sure this guy wasn't at the zoo?
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on October 05, 2006, 05:37 PM:
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25 to 30 coyotes in a "herd"
Hell, that was just BM's movie set. That "herd" responds best to the sound of road killed deer being drug from the bed of a pickup.
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