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Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on September 30, 2006, 05:16 PM:
The statement about someone "being famous, for being famous" (and moreso, another one I'll quote later) got me to thinking. A lot.
How did I get to be "who I am" on the internet?
I've spent quite a few days looking back over half a dozen websites, trying to understand.
Not to defend Mr Guess, but I wonder if he wanted to be "who he is"?
I certainly know I never wanted to be who I have ended up being (on the predator boards).
I know this wasn't meant to offend (and it didn't), but this isn't how I want to be remembered.
"Krusty is a legend... Noted for being stubborn and not playing well with others when stressed. ...who has never killed a coyote."
I think Mr Higgins said it well... "knowledge, experience and attitude will ultimately decide how you are perceived by whichever group you join."
Another group saw me as;
"I had the priviledge of meeting him at Skaha. He's a good guy."
"Krusty used to be a pillar of this board. ...I think he moved on to other hobbies but as far as I am concerned he has always been stand up."
"I climbed with Jeff, and I'd be more than glad to do so again. ...His skills are on par with the best, and his attitude was awesome..."
I guess it's all about perception.
But I sure find it confusing how wildy these perceptions conflict one another.
Of the three main "criteria" Mr Higgins lists, my attitude seems to be the only thing in my direct control (when I can keep it under control)...
I guess I'll work on that.
Take care,
Krusty 
Posted by TheHuntedOne (Member # 623) on September 30, 2006, 05:55 PM:
quote:
knowledge, experience and attitude will ultimately decide how you are perceived by whichever group you join."
Curent events might dictate an adendum to that statement.
Please insert Integrity after experience.
Al
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on September 30, 2006, 06:49 PM:
Krusty, you are also known for being determined and making a great call or two. I don't know much about you but I've heard nothing but good about your calls and if you've been at this, this long without "killing" a coyote you've got to be determined.
I think the only thing I'm known for on the net is being opinionated. But I guess I earned it!
Posted by CBGC (Member # 643) on September 30, 2006, 07:04 PM:
This Mr Guess is a very popular guy. Many post all over the web appear about him. Personally I dont have anything against him, but i did take a shot at him because of his doooo-rag. Looks like he should be in New york City instead of hunting critters.
Me, not much of a killer when it comes to coyotes, every blue moon I will take a crack at them. I have become pretty close to them actually. Just spent a week in the north east studying every move they make with some new friends that have some collard. What eye opening experience it was. Herer are some good picts of some of the guys in the study and one we put in the study.
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 30, 2006, 07:39 PM:
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Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on September 30, 2006, 07:56 PM:
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Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on September 30, 2006, 09:47 PM:
Dave, what beautiful animals. The top pics look just like our Mexican grey Wolves. The bottom one looks like classic c.l.thamnos.
I would very much like to talk to you. Would you mind if I called you?
Posted by Rich (Member # 112) on October 01, 2006, 06:20 AM:
Who the heck is c.l.thamnos?
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on October 01, 2006, 07:36 AM:
Canis latrans thamnos
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on October 01, 2006, 07:46 AM:
That's my new penname, Rich. "C. L. Thamnos".
Not really. Too much hair on every critter in those pics for any of them to pass as me. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
And Higgins, is it really a "classic" or are you just saying that? I thought C.l.thamnos
typically had lighter toenails?
(How's that for being a PAK?)
[ October 01, 2006, 07:47 AM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]
Posted by Melvin (Member # 634) on October 01, 2006, 09:02 AM:
Sounds like an Egyption rulers name.I seen a pyramid dug at the entrance of a den a couple weeks ago.That explains it all! Insurgent coyote!
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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on October 01, 2006, 03:54 PM:
They're all insurgents, Melvin. Destroy the insurgency!!!
Back to Krusty's initial question, here's what I have to offer...
Who you are is the sum total of the opinions of those whose paths you've crossed in your time here. Who you are is the impressions you made on others and what they thought (or think) of you. If you will, a twist on the old "if a tree falls in the forest..." quip.
If a man does nothing but evil and causes grief to everyone he ever knew, who will he be when he's gone?
It's a sad, sad thing, but we often don't really get to know who someone is until after they've died and we're afforded the opportunity to share and compare our perspectives with those of our friends, family and the many, many people that we cross wires with in our day to day lives. I was once again reminded of this after my dad's death. So many people with whom to visit about who dad was, what he was all about, and how he made an impact in their lives. I learned things about my dad that I never knew.
Going through his personal belongings and finding things I hadn't seen since I was seven or eight years old, and knowing why dad had put it away for safe keeping. All these things together are "who he was" because the memories are all of him we have left. I've wondered since, many times, how my actions impact those around me - people whith whom I am close, and strangers, too. You never know when the most insignificant action on your part may have a life changing effect on someone you don't even know is watching.
I'm trying to find time to play dolls with my daughter, have real talks with my son, and share the things with my wife that I think about day to day but never take the time to ask her of her opinion. I want to do these things because I want them to know just how important they are to me. Sometimes it's hard to make the change, but I don't want my kids to think of me as the dad who was busy with everything but never had time to play, be silly, just talk, or let a little of himself show so the most important people around him could know him and who he was just a little better.
Any one of us could die tonight. If it was you, who would you be tomorrow?
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 01, 2006, 04:04 PM:
Any one of us could die tonight. If it was you, who would you be tomorrow?
Just dust in the wind
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 01, 2006, 04:22 PM:
I can't help but read what Lance said and it hits very close to home. Believe me, I have had many opportunities to think about stuff I did, and didn't do for my wife. I sure wish I had done a few things differently. LB
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on October 01, 2006, 05:51 PM:
TA17Rem, that's just the opinion you have of yourself. When you're gone, your opinions of yourself, regardless of how grand or how humble, are gone with you.
It's the opinions of you that the living hold on to that comprises the essence of your legacy. That can never be "just dust".
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on October 01, 2006, 05:57 PM:
I didn't start this thread to elicit praise, not for myself, and most definitely not for my calls.
I did so to "announce" that I had reached a milestone in my life, and that I don't want to be "who I am" anymore.
I hope to become a better "who I am", and I don't think I can do it all by myself... I didn't get to be who I am, by myself, but (as mentioned) I do have to admit to being THE driving force.
Lance,
Thanks for putting this back on track, and for truely understanding where I am coming from.
In the last month, I lost two people very near and dear to me.
Both were extremely sudden, with no time to "brace myself" for it.
It was in considering my own demise, and how different people would "take it", that lead me here (as well as Leonard's statement about people "stepping up to the plate" where needed... this is my "step up", and I think a bunch of us needed it).
I wish you guys knew me for "who I am" in real life, and that when I am gone, that is who I am remembered as instead.
The "eulogy" I got here was a bitter pill indeed, but as this thread proves, maybe it was medicine I needed? Maybe not?
Krusty
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on October 01, 2006, 06:23 PM:
Krusty you are not the first or last to ever loose a loved one, you need to pick youre self up and shake off the dirt and move on. That is how the ones you lost would want you to do. just go out there and do the best you can and live for the ones who are unable to.
Posted by stevecriner (Member # 892) on October 01, 2006, 06:39 PM:
You know its a funny thing. It kinda makes me sad to think who i will be when im gone. Its scary actualy. You know ive done so many things already in my life of 27 yrs that alot will never do. I rodeoed, roped, faught bulls, played on a tournement stock class paintball team, raced harescrambles on dirt bikes, owned a trukin co, construction co, Making videos, and the list goes on and on. All them things i either did or still do to the best of my ability.
I always wanted to be best or or at least good enough every one to know who i was. But even though i was one of the best a one time at some of those, not a one person in that area will know me now. Just because ive quit doin it.
Alot in the last few months have changed for me. Im going to be a dad, ive met or either got aquainted with new friends,etc. Even though i still want to be the best. Ive come to the realization that being known dont mean shit.
Because you can go ask anyone in any one of those things i listed a year from now if i died tonight and they wont know i was even here or there except for friends. Most of my employees think im a dick head, my wife prolly thinks im a prick, and i dont know what some think of me. But its sacrey for me because the thought of being forgotten is just bothers me.
So i guess after all that mumbo jumbo i just dropped that prolly didnt make any sence, I hope that i am remebered and not forgotten.
quote:
It's the opinions of you that the living hold on to that comprises the essence of your legacy. That can never be "just dust".
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on October 01, 2006, 07:05 PM:
Now you're seeing it, Steve. (BTW, congrats on the new baby)
When my dad decided to no longer volunteer as a firefighter let alone a chief, we had a good long talk. He was a hard working man. Task oriented. Spent a lot of time working for other people. Always wished he'd had done more for and with us. He told me he came to a conclusion about all those outside "jobs" he was doing, and he realized that you retire from your job, but never from your family and friends.
Leonard-
My dad and I had the chance to talk about his marriage to my mom one night riding home from a K-State basketball game. Like you, he regretted not having done more for her and doing things better. I reminded him that he and she did things to the best of their ability at the time, and how things ended up were because they both wanted to be there at that place and time. She never did or said a thing to show she was ever unhappy. She had a man that loved her til death did they part. That, in and of itself, is hard to come by these days. Nancy was just as lucky.
People who just know you for what you've accomplished will forget you when the next great guy comes along. Your kids will remember you to their dying breath. My kids are the most important job I ever had.
Krusty, I know what you mean. Going around to my landowners has been a challenge this year. Everyone wants to know how we're doing since dad died. It bums me often, but I remind myself that dad taught us how to weather the rough times and if I want to show his legacy, I do best to keep a stiff upper lip. Sorry to hear about your losses.
Just do the best you can and when it's all said and done, people will say you gave it your all, and you were nice to all. Between the two, you'll get past the gates.
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on October 01, 2006, 07:13 PM:
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I rodeoed, roped, faught bulls, played on a tournement stock class paintball team, raced harescrambles on dirt bikes
You've got quite a background of competition. Do you still have the passion for it? If so, have you thought about coyote contests? Agreed, it won't make you "famous", and it damned sure won't make you rich (just ask Leonard). But, like rodeo, you will be pitting what you know and how well you know how to do it, against others with similar skills. Same concept, different arena. And you'll make a lot more "lasting" friendships, too.
Not everyone is born with the drive and ambition it takes to compete.
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Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on October 01, 2006, 07:24 PM:
Congratulations again, Papa Steve. You had better bring pics and cigars to the campout. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Krusty, sorry for your loss. I hope you mend soon.
Posted by NASA (Member # 177) on October 01, 2006, 07:39 PM:
I don't think Steve, Jr. is ready to come out of the oven, just yet. The dough is still risin'. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by stevecriner (Member # 892) on October 01, 2006, 07:42 PM:
Oh Rich, I wont have pics yet it aint due till april 26th. You know its weird, That felt good typin that. I cant believe im going to be a DAd...But i will bring some cigars. I dont know alot about them so let me know what you like.
Tom, I compete alot. Still play on the tournament team, and Rope a bit. I would love to hunt a contest but there just aint alot around here. Ill have to figure out how to make it happen i guess. That would be a good excitment to win one.
Cdog, Thanks for the congrats.
Posted by The Outdoor Tripp (Member # 619) on October 01, 2006, 07:48 PM:
Wish we had contests of the sort in my neck of the woods. Problem is, Texas is 99% private land and most ranchers don't favor contestants shooting on their place. One person at a time is often a different story for sure, but makes for pretty weak competition!
And congratulations in advance Papa Steve!
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Posted by Tim Behle (Member # 209) on October 01, 2006, 07:48 PM:
Steve,
Being well known isn't all that it is cracked up to be. Fifteen years ago, I was pushing myself as hard as I could, with the goal of becoming famous. About the time I became pretty well known, some things happened, I lost some family and then some friends, And then I realized that I didn't know my own children.
So I packed them all up and moved 2,000 miles to the middle of no where.
My family and I have never been closer. Those are the one's who really matter to me, they are the only ones I now want to work hard for. I now put my family first, and life has never been better for us.
Leonard,
Your "Away from my desk" Forum brings a fiery tear to my eye several times each day. I can't bring myself to open it again, but the memories of what you went though pain me, I hope I never have to face what you did. My prayers are that I can be as strong and as dedicated as a husband to Joyce, as you were to Nancy.
I'd like to write more, but at this point, I can't.
Tim
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on October 01, 2006, 10:48 PM:
TA17,
"It was in considering my own demise..."
I'm already past the picking myself up, and dusting myself off. That is what I am good at.
The only reason I mentioned anyone passing, is because Lance nailed it on the head.
Steve,
I'll add my congratulations.
My brother Red would rather ride a good harescrambles than eat a ham sandwich, and he loves ham sandwiches.
NASA,
Like Steve, I've got a long list of competetive sports, and successes in those sports.
Whitewater kayacking, and predator calling, are the only ones to kick my ass.
Since I won't drown, I am able keep calling.
The idea of a calling contest thrills me.
But you gotta walk before you can run, and I am still learning to crawl.
Rich,
Thanks, a kind word from you will go a long ways towards helping with that (overall) mending (both in my real life, and on the internet).
I appreciate that.
Tim,
When you can type again, did you get the mail I sent you?
Krusty
Posted by scruffy (Member # 725) on October 02, 2006, 10:36 AM:
Krusty, this year has been a milestone year for me as well.
It'll be 5 years in December since the tumor in my neck was found to be cancerous. This year also marks the first year that I'm as healthy, if not healthier, than I was 6 or 7 years ago when my health started to drop off. This year my daughter turned 1, alot changed when she was born, and now after a year I can really look back and catch my breath (and catch up on sleep) and appreciate what it is to be a dad.
I've also reached the point where I work and play too hard. Alot of us work too hard, but I spent too much time in my solo hobbies that I missed out spending time in hobbies that I enjoy with my wife. For instance my wife and I really enjoy riding the motorcycle. It's sat gathering dust all summer. Didn't make time to get it out, find a baby sitter, and go ride. I made the time once a week all summer to get out and enjoy the outdoors and practice up on new calls and such on a nearby farm, but didn't make time to spend with the wife doing things we both enjoy.
Yesterday the bike saw daylight and a short solo ride. Tonight after work the plan is for the daughter to go to the in-laws and the wife and I to take it out for a short spin. It gets dark early and she doesn't like riding in the dark (too many deer and other stuff running around anyway...). This past Saturday after a wedding I normally would have raced back to go calling with a buddy that called and invited to an evening stand but instead took advantage of having a baby sitter and some time with the wife alone and took her to a little hole in the wall restraunt in a town of 30 people that has the best ribs around (one of her favorite meals).
I'm also hoping this week to put a baby swing for my daughter, which is one of her favorite things to do. My daughter and I spend alot of time together since my wife works a couple evenings a week, and that has probably brought about alot of this change. My daughter doesn't care about my troubles, doesn't say any words of encouragement or correction , but she'll listen, she demands constant supervision, and lets me know when she is and isn't happy. And, like any good daughter, has her daddy wrapped around her finger, LOL!!!
This past summer when she was really sick and the doctors didn't know why, antibiotics not working, talk of possible heart infections, tests, and worse case scenerio being a transplant, I've never been kicked in the gut so hard. I've never prayed so much or cried so much. Then, as fast as the sickness came on, it was gone. My little girl was back to normal, but I was not. Stuff like that changes you.
I charrish my time with my daughter. I'm trying to spend more time with my wife. I'm trying to spend more time with God, daily. I don't say "I don't have time to do that" anymore because it isn't true. I say "I'll make time". It's all about priorities, we make time for we think is important. My priorities have been changing and thus so has my time and finances.
Usually we don't know what we have until we've lost it. Somethings we'd be better off appreciating them more and hold onto tightly, while other things we'd be better off loosing because in the end they cause more harm than good. Too often it takes a dramatic event to cause us to look at the things in our lives to make that evaluation. And change isn't easy.
later,
scruffy
Posted by REM223PA (Member # 332) on October 04, 2006, 10:49 AM:
Krusty
I feel for ya pal, It maybe a little late but your in are prays and I am deeply sorry for your loss.
It can only get better pal
maybe this will help let you know who you are to some of us
I AM NEW TO THIS SIGHT BUT WOULD LIKE TO THANK KRUSTY FOR HELPING ME MAKE MEMORY'S
YOU DA MAN IN MY BOOK PAL!
all
were harvest last season
All 3 of these cats came to my krusty call he made me. all on a 3 day hunt
On a cold night down south on the high rack this cat came a looken
for the same call,, the krusty duel voice call
this call so good pal i dont need boots,, they come arunning
do they work just on dogs and cats???
i think not!!!
thanks krusty thats what some of us see you as..
and here is a good look at the DUEL VOICES CALL
I HOPE I DIDN'T GO TO FAR JUST TRY TO LET KRUSTY KMNOW HOW HE LOOK TO ME
THANKS
[ October 04, 2006, 11:14 AM: Message edited by: REM223PA ]
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on October 04, 2006, 11:20 AM:
Very Cool Rem!
Posted by RedRabbit (Member # 796) on October 11, 2006, 01:48 PM:
I dont mean to sound too "bible thumping" but I feel all my good deeds are nothing but rags in the eyes of God unless I include him in my life and the things I do.
God provides me the time to do what ever I just wish I wouldnt fight him so much, but thats just me being human I guess.
Sorry I jumped into this late but its the life style I have now I have to hit or miss and go with the flow sorta speak. Thank God! ie; be careful what you ask for you might get what you want.
All I want to be remembered for is that the life I was given was what god willed for me. The closer I can get to him then just maybe I might get a look at the map hes looking at. Its been alot of ups and downs for me. I dont mind the downs so much, but its alot better if I understand.
I found a good read I recommend C.S. Lewis "Mere Christianity" check it out its a very good read. It really makes you think weather your a believer, or non believer....
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