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Topic: OPINION POLL ON GLOBAL WARMING
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Leonard
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posted April 06, 2007 10:04 AM
We've heard all the dire predictions for years. Chicken Little (Al Gore) and his band of merrymen "scientists" breathlessly informing us and ordering us to do something, even if it's wrong....but wait; thirty years ago, those usual suspects were predicting a coming ICE AGE?
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Barndog
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posted April 06, 2007 12:20 PM
The earth is getting warmer. Al Gore's data is correct in what he presents in his mockumentry. However just like a politician he has it backwards. The Earth warms and then the CO2 level rises. Not the way Gore presents it. Gore says CO2 rises then the temerature rises.
This is what really happens.
The Earths warming is directly related to sun spots. So to keep it simple for those of you who are not scientific minded. Sun gets hotter than normal, earth gets hotter than normal, CO2 level rises. Can we do something about it.
Sure PRAY and ask God to turn the heat down.
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Leonard
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posted April 06, 2007 12:35 PM
What about if we stop using hair spray?
BTW, this poll, approved by Brad Norman, is Fair and Ballanced!
[ April 06, 2007, 02:09 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
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Andy L
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posted April 06, 2007 12:42 PM
I would say, just from what I see, the earth must be warming some. Save this winter, we have been warmer, for the most part. (Although its hard to say this today, April and 20 degrees out.) Some global warming is welcome, as far as Im concerned. If we could have some global humidity drop to go with it, I wouldnt be wanting to move to AZ so bad.
I think man has very little, if any, impact on the change. I think its a cycle and I doubt there is a damned thing we can do about it. I wont worry myself too much about it. I do however, worry about dickheads like Gore spouting his BS and worry that he may be in a position of power and cost a bunch of undue cash to all of us. One volcano blows up releases more CO2 than all of us put together in a lifetime. The earth plates are shifting alot, hence alot of earthquakes and volcanos, most under the ocean. This is going to cause the water to warm and affect weather a great deal.
I could go on and on. Im actually sick of this BS. I guess maybe Im the ignorant one, thats always a chance, but from all I can see, its going to take a lot to convince me this is anything more than a earth cycle.
Sunspots. I hadnt heard or thought about that. That could very well be.
As for the poll, LB, I voted the way I did because there wasnt an option for what I just said, or at least I didnt interpret it that way making it a trick pop quiz. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Leonard
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posted April 06, 2007 12:50 PM
Updated:2007-04-06 14:15:11
Scientists Issue Grim Global Warming Report
Climate Change Raises Risk of Species Extinction
By ARTHUR MAX
AP
BRUSSELS, Belgium (April 6) -- The world faces increased hunger and water shortages in the poorest countries, massive floods and avalanches in Asia, and species extinction unless nations adapt to climate change and halt its progress, according to a report approved Friday by an international conference on global warming .
Hey Andy, while you and I have a few doubts, our Plucky Scientists are positive. Surprisingly, they also (for the first time) claim that NO additional studies are needed? Nobody saw that coming!
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EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
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Brad Norman
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posted April 06, 2007 01:09 PM
Leonard, I like the term "fair and balanced" better.
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Dan Carey
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posted April 06, 2007 01:35 PM
I'm going with the inventer of the internet on this one. He and I discussed it, back when we were inventing the internet, and I promised I would swear to it when he said it. How about that.
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Leonard
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posted April 06, 2007 02:08 PM
Excellent, I'll add it right now. LB
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EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
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JD
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posted April 06, 2007 02:46 PM
Personally, I like warm globes.
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Leonard
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posted April 06, 2007 03:10 PM
As does every red blooded American! Will they float, will they float!
Good hunting. LB
(we are probably the only two that get it)
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EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
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Dusty Hunter
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posted April 06, 2007 04:12 PM
My wife and I went to a seminar on astronomy where the speaker who has worked over his entire 30 year career on temperature changes on earth from centuries ago until now said there did not appear to be a big fluctuation, as is now being touted. He also said that the Clean Air Act has actually made a slight increase on the temperature of earth because there are less particles in the air to filter the sunlight. Anyway, I think the Creator intended a little global warming or we would still be in the Ice Age.
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Tim Behle
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posted April 06, 2007 04:15 PM
I get it Leonard, and I'm all in favor of warm Globes myself. Although I've never seen anything wrong with cold globes in a tight t-shirt.
But this Global warming is all caused by farting cows.
We need to eat more cows and help to save the world. I vow to do my part, one Prime Rib at a time!
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Buffalobob
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posted April 06, 2007 06:11 PM
A couple of things to think about.
1. DDT has been banned for decades. Why do the fish in all of the states in the Mississippi drainage and eastward have high levels of DDT?
2. What causes polar bear mothers to have low birth weight cubs?
3. What happens if you are right about there being no global warming?
4. What happens if you are wrong and it could have been prevented?
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JD
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posted April 06, 2007 06:27 PM
Buffalogore, what? you don`t like warm globes?
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Leonard
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posted April 06, 2007 06:57 PM
Bob, have you heard the facts that because the enviros and their governments browbeat tropical countries to quit using DDT, millions of people have needlessly died from malaria? What a success story that has been. Wow, the birds are responding.
That's what disgusts me about the animal rights wackos, always at the expense of humans, it's always black or white, no middle ground, never negotiate.
We really need to think about exactly what we can do to grind the Industrial Revolution to a halt, and what actual benefit will be derived from living in log cabins and chopping firewood, except the NAZI's will decide that can't be allowed, either. Gotta save the friggin' trees.
Then too, knowledgeable, less hysterical scientific people suggest that if we are on a natural cycle, and a warming trend; that Gore has overstated the projected effects by a factor of a thousand percent, for the next one hundred years.
Polor bears are doing quite nicely, by the way. (look it up) What is supposed to be the implication of "low birthweight"?
I just have to shake my head at the realization that liberals believe mankind can control the global environment.
Good hunting. LB
edit: oops! I might have given away how I voted?
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EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All.
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Kelly Jackson
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posted April 06, 2007 08:08 PM
TimB - I'm with you cold and perky.......
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JD
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posted April 06, 2007 11:15 PM
Cold & perky will do also.
Leonard, I agree totally.
Buffalo-AL, where are the facts? not liberal media hysteria, facts. Can you explain why Co2 levels don`t correlate with the warming trends?
Burden of proof will be the death of all you liberals in the end.
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Andy L
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posted April 07, 2007 04:44 AM
Anyone watch the Inconvenient Truth? I did on HBO out of curiosity. I thought I was gonna cry. NOT!! What a joke.
I get a kick out of Gore and the far left, including Hollywood, telling us what to do. While its fine for them to cruise in private planes, SUV convoys, ect.... Oh, but Gore sold his Zinc mine before making the movie. Made a half a billion off of it and now the CO2 can be blamed on someone else. Aint that kewl.
Oh, and according to Gore, you can use all the carbon fuel you want, as long as you buy carbon credits. What they are, I have no fuckin idea. But you buy them and they offset the bad crap you shoot in the air. And guess who owns the company that $ells the carbon credits? Al Gore. Aint that kewl? He uses private planes, has three big assed houses, big cars and SUVs, makes movies about how we should live like it was the 1800s again and hes justifying it by buying "carbon credits" from himself. What a country!!
Buffalo, I have an inclination to give you a pass on alot of things, despite your fukced views on politics, and thats what this is, politics, due to your military service. My mothers family are long lines of military service and I have always held the highest respect. My grandfather was a true patriot. He caught the last of WWII, all of Korea and two tours in Vietnam. Although your one of the very few true blue ones that turned out so far off on politics. But your way off on this. Its another money scheme and chicken little scheme dreamed up to try and steal the thunder away from the fear of terrorism. The liberals are too weak on defense, pussies actually, so they gotta have their own sky is falling crisis. They dont have a real one.
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Steve Craig
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posted April 07, 2007 07:07 AM
All through the late 60's and 70's it was:
"we are headed for a global ICE AGE" for crying out loud! Sure didnt see that one happen.
I guess there must be alot of DDT floating down the Potomac too, as it has screwed up alot of peoples brains back there.
You want to worry about something, you better worry about this!
[Dwindling Honeybee Population in US Puzzles Scientists
By David McAlary
Washington
29 March 2007
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Scientists looking into the dramatic decline of the honeybee population in the United States say they are baffled by the developments. But they told the U.S. Congress Thursday the drop is threatening the production of a significant portion of the U.S. food supply that relies on honeybee pollination. VOA's David McAlary reports.
The drop in the U.S. honeybee population began last October. U.S. Agriculture Department official Caird Rexroad says beekeepers across the continent began reporting unexplained losses of 30 to 90 percent of their colonies.
"If you notice when you walk through the clover in the yard barefoot, you'll no longer be stung by a honeybee," he said. "It's very unfortunate."
Getting stung is no pleasure, but to hear Rexroad tell it, it is a far lesser evil than the loss of the honeybees. He told the House of Representatives Agriculture Committee the collapse threatens a $15 billion segment of the U.S. farm economy that relies on pollination. Especially hard hit are growers of almonds and other nuts, berries, fruits, and vegetables.
"These outbreaks of unexplained colony collapse pose a threat to the pollination industry, the production of commercial honey, and the production of at least 30 percent of our nation's crops," he added. "Furthermore, with pests and diseases of bees increasing over the last few decades, we have reached critical point for the bee industries."
Rexroad and other scientists cannot explain the precipitous bee decline. Their main suspect is the verroa mite, a bug that invaded the United States in the 1980s. U.S. Agriculture Department research has found the mites kill bees by feeding on them, transmit viruses, and have become resistant to many insecticides.
But other possibilities include pesticides or other environmental toxins, migratory or hive stress that weakens bees' immune systems, and various viruses and bacteria.
Pennsylvania State University bee expert Diana Cox-Foster is part of a study group uniting several national and state scientists who are analyzing bees, wax, honey and pollen from more than 100 colonies across the country to seek clues to the insects' demise. She says that whatever the cause, the country needs a new breed of honeybees to overcome the present challenges.
"The working group recognizes the importance of trying to breed honeybees that are more resistant to diseases and the impacts of parasites," she said. "Developing new genetic strains of bees may be essential to the future of beekeeping."
The United States is not alone in honeybee loss. Cox-Foster and others told Congress that Canada and parts of Europe are also experiencing unexplained honeybee death, but they do not know if it is part of the same phenomenon.
"I know it is a growing problem," she added. "This is a global issue and being recognized as a problem."
Beekeeper David Ellington from the north central U.S. state of Minnesota says the crisis shows how little is known about honeybee biology and his industry. He complained to the lawmakers that the business gets much less research support from government and academia than regular agriculture, and many of his colleagues are about to give up.
"If there is a glimmer of hope that we could, in some manner, improve the lot of beekeepers, the atmosphere of this industry would be greatly improved and we would see new, younger beekeepers moving in," he said.]
This is going to cause far more long reaching problems for mankind than any so called global warming.
Geez!
Steve
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Az-Hunter
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posted April 07, 2007 07:36 AM
I just saw a list of the top ten "greenhouse gas" producers on the planet. Man, ranked around eighth....right behind inscets in the production of that nasty, global warming gas stuff. The ocean,volcanoes,cattle and termites all ranked way above what man spits into the air.
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onecoyote
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posted April 07, 2007 08:12 AM
So whats all this mean? The Earth is going to turn into a Gaint Fart ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Leonard
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posted April 07, 2007 08:55 AM
What does it all mean? If you think about it for a moment, what it means is that Liberal Democrats are so focused on the blame game that they have no problem with universal and global dishonesty. Anything to advance their political and philosophical agendas. Ethics? What's that? Religion? That's a joke; unless you mean some weird space cadet Scientology Cult? Animal rights reign supreme, but the rights of the unborn are not recognized. Huh?
Good hunting. LB
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blakyote
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posted April 07, 2007 09:24 AM
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Perhaps we suspect changes in climate due to greenhouse gases, but mankind is powerless to do anything about it
I think this is it.We don't live long enough to see the earths life cycle,and I believe thats all it is and man won't beable to do a damn thing about it.The Earth or universe doesn't go by policies,or laws,it just goes on doing what it's been doing since the beginning of time.But I guess thats to much of a logical explaination for the Libs. ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
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Andy L
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posted April 07, 2007 09:49 AM
One other thing I get a kick out of on this joke. The impact on weather. One hurricane in our lifetime hits New Orleans. It was a bad one. But be real. These people are living BELOW SEA LEVEL. Have you ever been there? Not only are you below sea level to the south, your below a HUGE lake to the east and the Mississippi to the west. Damn. Thats insane in itself.
Anyhow, the global warming crew got the hurricane forcasters fired up and last year was supposed to see the highest number and the most violent hurricanes in history. With something like 7 hitting the US and 1-2 the gulf coast. They were geared up. I think we had one tropical storm go up the west bank of Florida? Now this year, they are hedging their bet and calling for basically the same as last year. I got news for em, they better hope the damned currents from Africa to Greenland change or they will have egg on their faces again.
I was near Jackson MS 4 days after the hurricane hit New Orleans. That was a sad site. They got hit that far inland, hard. We were after a guy but had hell with no hotels, lines with gas rations, ect... It was a hell of a trip. Then last summer, I had to go to New Orleans 4 times. ( Its been a hotspot for skips to run. Lots of repair jobs paying cash off the grid. ) Its still a shithole down there. What puzzles me is why would anyone want to live below sea level? And if that tragedy happened, why would you go back?
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Leonard
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posted April 07, 2007 10:00 AM
Well, I can't explain it, Andy, but it has been done before. Venice, has the canals. The Netherlands...hmmm? canals, too? I have been to Amsterdam a couple of times; they flush the sea water out every week and refill the canals.
Now, whether this is all worth the effort, or not? I can't say. The cost to bullet-proof New Orleans is okay with the left and doubtful, on the right.
Good hunting. LB
edit: meanwhile, your tax dollars are being spent to protect the Malibu Beach Colony's Billionaires from rising surf....
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